You are unemployed and want a new job, under a Democratic president you have a better chance of getting one!

They joined NATO, to join the EU,

Post your evidence, moron.

Again, no justification, for deploying American troops and hardware on Russia's border.

Deploying American troops and hardware on the border of member states to protect them from Russia.

You failed to provide any evidence that Russia was threatening Eastern Europe,

They threaten all their neighbors.
Why did they join NATO, if not to join the EU?

Russia never threatened to invade them, after the collapse of the USSR, so you're talking shit. Present your evidence that Putin or anybody else after the end of the USSR, were threatening Estonia, Lithuania, and other nations in the region, militarily.

Bullshit. Where is your evidence that post-soviet Russia was threatening Eastern Europe, militarily, in the 90s, or under Putin?
 
You justify NATO expansion based upon the false premise that Putin threatened to invade Eastern European countries,

No, you ignorant twit, I justify NATO expansion upon the fact that Russia enslaved
those countries after WWII.

I acknowledge the wisdom of their NATO membership by observing none of those new NATO members has been invaded by Putin, while he has invaded Chechnya, Georgia and Ukraine.
Good point..
 
Why did they join NATO, if not to join the EU?

Russia never threatened to invade them, after the collapse of the USSR, so you're talking shit. Present your evidence that Putin or anybody else after the end of the USSR, were threatening Estonia, Lithuania, and other nations in the region, militarily.

Bullshit. Where is your evidence that post-soviet Russia was threatening Eastern Europe, militarily, in the 90s, or under Putin?

Why did they join NATO,

For protection from Russia.

So, you have no evidence?

Present your evidence that Putin or anybody else after the end of the USSR, were threatening Estonia, Lithuania, and other nations in the region, militarily.

You should ask the countries that joined NATO if they felt threatened.
And then ask Georgia and Ukraine if they felt threatened.
 
You'll keep scribbling your delusional drivel, hiding behind your computer in Chicago.

I'll keep exposing the idiocy of your claims.

Tell me again that Fannie and Freddie were minor players in the mortgage crisis.

And that they didn't hold very many subprime mortgages.

That was hilarious!!!
 
Not true: you just found out that the 1)Dems have been cooking the numbers and using word games to make a false narrative on Jobs, including using population migration tricks like counting jobs created by a biz that closed in one state moving to another state (due to crime & taxes in Dem run cities), that's not job creation, that's job migration, yet they count those numbers and you are the dupe that buys the scam.
2) you don't have any clue how bad the Kamala plan to tax unrealized cap gains will be for Businesses and properties and how that will close up many businesses thus take jobs from us not add jobs like keeping Trump tax structure that's expiring creates as Business use their tax savings to invest in their company including employees that reaped the benefits.
Think McFly, don't be so gullible.
Makes one wonder where the room is that has the pull chains along with the smoke and mirror's that the leftist dems are diabolically coming up with all their bull shite from. I do believe that they are spiritually aware of each other's narratives, agenda's and like mindedness. You see it especially bad in leftist media and such.

Controlling their narrative and agendas are paramount to them. The targeting of government positions and it's bully pulpit is all important to them.

Countering it all, and getting back to common sense values and standards is the nation's only hope.

Trump is the only one (along with his allies), to address the nation's wants and needs against not having everything taken from them in the process of the left force feeding it's agenda's down Americans throats by government becoming tyrant's for the left.

If people haven't learned by now, then God help us all.
 
Why did they join NATO,

For protection from Russia.

So, you have no evidence?

Present your evidence that Putin or anybody else after the end of the USSR, were threatening Estonia, Lithuania, and other nations in the region, militarily.

You should ask the countries that joined NATO if they felt threatened.
And then ask Georgia and Ukraine if they felt threatened.
Was Russia threatening to invade them in the 1990s, after the demise of the USSR? When did Russia threaten Estonia, Latvia, or Lithuania? You apparently are the one without evidence, or you wouldn't be basing it on those countries being part of the USSR. As I showed, even today, a significant % of Eastern Europeans, regret the collapse of the USSR.

Do American Blacks, who were REALLY enslaved, regret being freed from slavery? NO. Yet why do so many former Soviet citizens regret the demise of the USSR if they were really "enslaved" and mistreated as you claim?

For the sake of argument, let's assume they were enslaved and mistreated. How does that justify deploying NATO, that Cold War dinosaur on Russia's border, with American troops and hardware? Poking the bear unnecessarily creates conflict and of course, profits, for the military-industrial complex.

Feeling threatened doesn't give them the right to turn their countries into NATO bases and launch pads against Russia. By becoming NATO members, they place themselves in real danger, of being invaded and nuked, whereas before Russia wasn't threatening them. Show me when post-Soviet Russia threatened any of those countries. You don't have a shred of evidence.

If the Russians were deploying their troops in Mexico or Canada, in the same way that the US is deploying its military on Russia's border, we would go to war. We wouldn't allow Russia to do that to us, and yet we're doing it to them, and that's wrong. It's an unwarranted provocation, that can lead to WW3.
 
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I'll keep exposing the idiocy of your claims.

Tell me again that Fannie and Freddie were minor players in the mortgage crisis.

And that they didn't hold very many subprime mortgages.

That was hilarious!!!
Now you're making up shit. Typical Todd.
 
That's got to be the dumbest thing you've posted lately.

And that's saying a lot.

Feeling threatened = NATO? Turn your country into a NATO base? That is truly the dumbest thing anyone could do.

NATO Membership:
  • Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania joined NATO on March 29, 2004.
EU Membership:
  • All three Baltic states became members of the European Union on May 1, 2004, just a little over a month after joining NATO. So, while their NATO membership slightly preceded their EU membership, the two processes were very closely linked.
All it did was create more tension and instability in the region.
 
Feeling threatened = NATO? Turn your country into a NATO base? That is truly the dumbest thing anyone could do.

NATO Membership:
  • Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania joined NATO on March 29, 2004.
EU Membership:
  • All three Baltic states became members of the European Union on May 1, 2004, just a little over a month after joining NATO. So, while their NATO membership slightly preceded their EU membership, the two processes were very closely linked.
All it did was create more tension and instability in the region.

Feeling threatened = NATO? Turn your country into a NATO base? That is truly the dumbest thing anyone could do.

Beats the hell out of getting invaded by Russia.

Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania joined NATO on March 29, 2004.


Now do all the rest of them

All it did was create more tension and instability in the region.

Because it made Russia cry?
Are Georgia and Ukraine feeling stable with no tension?
 
You have your own idiotic claims you're making up.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac certainly played a role in the crisis by purchasing subprime mortgages, but they were far from the only culprits. Private institutions were equally, if not more, involved in the aggressive pursuit of subprime lending and securitization. According to the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, Fannie and Freddie were involved in about 20% of subprime purchases




Did you pull this 20% claim out of your ass, or do you have a source?
 
Was Russia threatening to invade them in the 1990s, after the demise of the USSR? When did Russia threaten Estonia, Latvia, or Lithuania? You apparently are the one without evidence, or you wouldn't be basing it on those countries being part of the USSR. As I showed, even today, a significant % of Eastern Europeans, regret the collapse of the USSR.

Do American Blacks, who were REALLY enslaved, regret being freed from slavery? NO. Yet why do so many former Soviet citizens regret the demise of the USSR if they were really "enslaved" and mistreated as you claim?

For the sake of argument, let's assume they were enslaved and mistreated. How does that justify deploying NATO, that Cold War dinosaur on Russia's border, with American troops and hardware? Poking the bear unnecessarily creates conflict and of course, profits, for the military-industrial complex.

Feeling threatened doesn't give them the right to turn their countries into NATO bases and launch pads against Russia. By becoming NATO members, they place themselves in real danger, of being invaded and nuked, whereas before Russia wasn't threatening them. Show me when post-Soviet Russia threatened any of those countries. You don't have a shred of evidence.

If the Russians were deploying their troops in Mexico or Canada, in the same way that the US is deploying its military on Russia's border, we would go to war. We wouldn't allow Russia to do that to us, and yet we're doing it to them, and that's wrong. It's an unwarranted provocation, that can lead to WW3.
Is America deploying it's troops and equipment on the Russian border ? When was this taking place ?

Last I checked Ukraine was the one fighting for it's life on the border with Russia. Has Nato countries been of assistance to Ukraine per the request of the acting Ukranian government there ? Yes, it has certainly aided the government of Ukraine by sending the Ukranian Government equipment (per it's request), otherwise that it has asked for in their battle to oust Russia from within it's borders, and this was after Russia began a so called "special operation" within Ukrainian territory.
 
Feeling threatened = NATO? Turn your country into a NATO base? That is truly the dumbest thing anyone could do.

Beats the hell out of getting invaded by Russia.

Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania joined NATO on March 29, 2004.

Now do all the rest of them

All it did was create more tension and instability in the region.

Because it made Russia cry?
Are Georgia and Ukraine feeling stable with no tension?
Beats the hell out of getting invaded by Russia.

A smart realist Todd, who thinks rationally, and critically would say, OK, these nations are European, there's no reason why they can't join the EU, improving their economies, but the Russians have their own version of our "Monroe doctrine" and in view of NATO's Cold War history and baggage, we should form new defense treaties with Eastern Europe, that doesn't include NATO. NATO was created to defend Western Europe against possible Soviet military aggression, so we will keep NATO in Western Europe and create and develop a whole new defense infrastructure and apparatus in Eastern Europe. That's the smart and reasonable, thoughtful, practical Todd.

Here is Todd the smart-realist:


" Oh OK, you Russians are telling us that we promised not to extend NATO into Eastern Europe. We're not doing that, so we kept our promise. However you should realize that these sovereign Eastern European nations have a right to join the EU economy, if the EU accepts them, and you don't have the right to stop them hence you shouldn't threaten them with war, or begin saber-rattling on their border, because if you do that, the EU with the US, will defend these nations against your unwarranted military aggression. Do you understand?"

The Russians: " Granted, however, due to our history with you, we don't want you deploying your missiles or building American military bases on our border, because if you do that, you're eliminating the strategic deterrence value of our ICBMs, placing yours way too close to ours and of course our cities.

We don't like the fact that Eastern Europe is gravitating towards the West and seeking EU membership, we would prefer those countries remain within our sphere of influence, however, we can't stop them from becoming members of the EU, hence we won't. BUT, we will not allow those countries to threaten our national security by becoming launching pads for your ICBMs or establishing an adversarial stance against us, at the expense of our strategic deterrence capabilities. Just like you wouldn't allow Russian missiles in Mexico, pointed at you or in Cuba, we don't want your missiles too close to us, here in Eastern Europe, especially on our border.."


Todd the smart-realist:

"Strategically, we don't have to arm Eastern Europe with nukes, in order to defend them, so we don't have an issue with what you're telling us. We understand what your concerns are and we will try, within reason, to address and accommodate your national security concerns.

However, it must be said, that if Russia threatens Eastern Europe militarily, without an actual, direct provocation, you will have to deal with us, and that might entail more than half a million American troops, with plenty of our best hardware deployed on your border with these countries.

You have no legitimate reason, to threaten these countries if they're not clearly, threatening you, deploying our ICBMs and allowing us to build our bases on their soil. NATO the Cold War dinosaur is never going to extend itself into Eastern Europe, it will never be on your border, hence we kept our promise to you, so you have no right to commit an act of military aggression against them."


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Now this is stupid Todd:


"We can do whatever we want in Eastern Europe, including arming all of those nations with nukes. We can extend NATO, that Cold War relic, that is inherently hostile to Russia, operationally, doctrinally, and historically, right up to Russia's border. You don't like that? Too bad, we're Americans, and we can do whatever we want, anywhere around the world. NATO is going to be right there, in your face, saber rattling, poking the bear, with tens of thousands of American troops and hardware.

OOH, Look at that, there's a president in Ukraine, who is neutral toward Russia and wants to establish and maintain friendly political and economic ties with Russia. We American imperialist, jingoist assholes, don't like that...We want Ukraine to be hostile towards Russia, so we're going to ferment anti-Russian sentiments in Western Ukraine, we're going to agitate for Russophobia, we're going to make things so volatile, that if the Russian-friendly president of Ukraine, doesn't accept the free-trade agreement with the EU, it will plunge Ukraine into civil unrest and perhaps even civil war. "


Todd's capitalist buddies in the American Military Industrial Complex:

"Todd, that's great. That way we can make tens of billions of dollars selling weapons to the US government when our cronies in Washington decide to assist Ukraine with the weapons we manufacture. That's a great idea Todd, we need as much instability and strife in Eastern Europe as possible. That's exactly what serves our vested interests in that part of the world. Keep poking the bear Todd. Hell, we might even start WWW3, hehehehe, hey that's OK, we're wealthy and have our luxury, underground bunkers, fully stocked, with 40 years worth of supplies, hence we'll survive and even thrive after the Apocalypse. "


Todd the dingleberry:

"I hate Russia, I hate it....So I don't care if the missiles start flying. I'm here in Chicago, but I'm not scared. I will hide under my desk, with my new collection of colorful pencils and erasers as I used to do in elementary school when we had nuclear war safety drills. I will be safe, and secure with my family here under the desk in Chicago. I'm Todd the Jingoist moron durrrrrrr"..
 
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Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac certainly played a role in the crisis by purchasing subprime mortgages, but they were far from the only culprits. Private institutions were equally, if not more, involved in the aggressive pursuit of subprime lending and securitization. According to the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, Fannie and Freddie were involved in about 20% of subprime purchases




Did you pull this 20% claim out of your ass, or do you have a source?
I guess the private sector had nothing to do with it then, wow you're such a good analyst. Where did you study political science and economics at Oral Roberts University?
 
Is America deploying it's troops and equipment on the Russian border ? When was this taking place ?

Last I checked Ukraine was the one fighting for it's life on the border with Russia. Has Nato countries been of assistance to Ukraine per the request of the acting Ukranian government there ? Yes, it has certainly aided the government of Ukraine by sending the Ukranian Government equipment (per it's request), otherwise that it has asked for in their battle to oust Russia from within it's borders, and this was after Russia began a so called "special operation" within Ukrainian territory.

Is America deploying it's troops and equipment on the Russian border ? When was this taking place ?

When I say "on the border, with Russia", I'm referring to the nations that border Russia. I could just as well, say "near the Russian border", which would be more accurate because our troops and hardware aren't LITERALLY on the Russian border. I point that out, in case you insist on being pedantic, or hyperliteral.

Yes, the U.S. does deploy its troops and military equipment near Russia’s borders, particularly in Eastern European countries that are NATO members. It frames those activities as "rotational deployments" or part of NATO’s collective defense strategy.


  1. NATO Enhanced Forward Presence (EFP): Since 2017, NATO has deployed multinational battlegroups to Eastern Europe, including the Baltic states (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania), and Poland. These battlegroups are led by NATO member states, with the U.S. being one of the key contributors. While these deployments are often described as defensive and rotational, they include U.S. troops, tanks, artillery, and other equipment close (a few miles) to Russia’s borders.
  2. Operation Atlantic Resolve: Following the 2014, US orchestrated Ukrainian coup, the U.S. initiated Operation Atlantic Resolve, which involves continuous U.S. military presence in Eastern Europe. This operation has seen U.S. forces deployed in Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and other countries in the region. Although often rotational, U.S. troops have been conducting training exercises and maneuvers near Russia’s borders.
  3. Permanent U.S. Military Presence:In recent years, the U.S. has increased its permanent military presence in Poland. In 2020, the U.S. and Poland signed the Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement, which allowed for a larger permanent U.S. military presence, including bases and equipment storage. While not directly on the Russian border, Poland is a neighboring country.
  4. U.S. Troops in Romania and Bulgaria: While not bordering Russia directly, Romania and Bulgaria are strategically important in NATO's eastern flank. U.S. troops have also been stationed there, participating in joint exercises and maneuvers designed to bolster NATO’s presence in Eastern Europe.
  5. NATO Air Policing Missions: The U.S. has also participated in NATO's air policing missions in the Baltic states, providing fighter jets to patrol the airspace near Russia. These missions are conducted regularly and involve U.S. aircraft being stationed in bases near Russian airspace.
Mind you, if Russia was doing this to us here in Latin America or Canada, we would be at war. We would not allow Russia to extend its military presence on the American continent, to the extent that we're doing it to them in Eastern Europe. It just wouldn't happen. After we deployed nukes in Turkey, the Soviets decided to make an agreement with Fidel Castro, to deploy their nukes in Cuba, just a few miles from Florida. We said NO. The line is drawn here, and if you try to deploy your missiles or military in the Western Hemisphere (The American Continent), you're going to have to deal with us. We'll open a can of whoop ass on you. You're not doing it, period.

We almost fought a nuclear war with the USSR, it's called the "Cuban Missile Crisis", read about it.


Last I checked Ukraine was the one fighting for it's life on the border with Russia.

Can you be more specific? Are you referring to the current conflict? If you're referring to what is happening today, it's due to NATO expansion and the 2014 coup:



Can you imagine if Russia had sent its politicians to give speeches to Trump supporters in Washington during the protests in 2021? It would probably lead to a serious conflict against Russia, politically, economically, and maybe even militarily as well. We would go to war with Russia if they had meddled in our political life, in the way we have in Ukraine.

Has Nato countries been of assistance to Ukraine per the request of the acting Ukranian government there ? Yes,

No, it caused more instability and led to the present Russo-Ukrainian war.


it has certainly aided the government of Ukraine by sending the Ukranian Government equipment (per it's request), otherwise that it has asked for in their battle to oust Russia from within it's borders, and this was after Russia began a so called "special operation" within Ukrainian territory.

The"Special Military Operation" (Специальная военная операция) was designed to stop the continual slaughter of Russo-Ukrainians in the Donbas region of Ukraine, who didn't accept the legitimacy of the coup government established in 2014. That's the short answer.

If you think Russia is solely to blame for the mess in Ukraine, you're out of touch with reality. Let’s start with the so-called "Maidan Revolution" or what it actually was: a coup d'etat.

In 2014, Ukraine’s democratically elected president, Viktor Yanukovych, chose not to sign a free trade agreement with the EU. Why? Because Russia, a major trade partner with deep historical ties to Ukraine, warned that entering into such an agreement would undermine their existing trade agreements, seriously hurting Ukraine's economy. Yanukovych wasn’t acting irrationally, he was trying to prevent his country from becoming a pawn between Russia and the West. He wanted to protect Ukraine’s sovereignty, balancing both relationships. But that wasn’t good enough for the West, so they pushed for regime change.


Victoria Nuland, the Assistant Secretary of State at the time, was openly involved in Ukraine’s protests, handing out cookies in Maidan Square and boasting about how the U.S. had pumped $5 billion into 'promoting democracy' in Ukraine.






She even discussed, in a leaked phone call, who the U.S. wanted in power after the coup, like picking players for a sports team. You can hear her on that call saying "Fuck the EU" because Europe wasn’t moving fast enough to oust Yanukovych. So don't tell me this was a 'spontaneous uprising', it was orchestrated from Washington, with a little help from their local nazi-thug friends.



Speaking of which, let’s talk about the right-wing extremism you conveniently ignore. The Svoboda Party and groups like the Azov Battalion played a significant role in the protests. These are not your run-of-the-mill nationalists. Svoboda’s roots are in the ultra-right, and their hero is Stepan Bandera, a collaborator with the Third Reich, which the Russians believe (whether true or not) responsible for ethnic cleansing during WWII. These are the people the U.S. was propping up to overthrow a democratically elected government! Do you actually care about this Beagle9? Why don't you factor these facts into the equation and blame Russia for everything? Doesn't the aforementioned facts, make a difference in your view of what's happening now in Ukraine? It should.

Once the coup succeeded, what happened? A pro-Western government took over, aligned with NATO, the EU, and filled with extremists who hate everything Russian, including the Russian language, culture, and history. Do you think it’s some paranoid fantasy that Russia wouldn’t tolerate that? Do you even know what Ukraine represents to Russia historically?


Ukraine, especially Eastern Ukraine, is deeply tied to Russia culturally, linguistically, and historically. A huge part of the Soviet Union’s WWII resistance against Germany came through Ukraine, an invasion of Russia resulting in the death of 28 million people. Now, you want to claim that Russia should sit back and allow a pro-Nazi government to take over Kyiv, turning Ukraine into a Western puppet state on its border? Ridiculous.

I say this as someone whos doesn't believe half of the rhetoric said about German National Socialism and Adolf Hitler. Much of what we're heard about the German Third Reich in WW2 and its leader, Hitler, is BULLSHIT. However that said, these Ukrainian right-wing white supremacist "Nazis" , aren't national socialists, or anything like the German Third Reich, they're just a bunch of uneducated, criminal thugs. Scumbags. Russia isn't going to allow these nazi-thugs, persecute, brutalize and slaughter Russo-Ukrainians, and that includes the people of Crimea, which was also heavily inhabited by ethnic Russians.

The right-wing-run, anti-Russian Kyiv regime's policies alienated and attacked Russo-Ukrainians, particularly in the Donbas region. These are people who, in many cases, hold dual Russian citizenship, speak Russian, and identify closely with Russia. The new Ukrainian government didn’t seek reconciliation or unity; instead, it sent in paramilitary groups, like the Azov Battalion, to terrorize Eastern Ukraine. Shelling civilian areas, labeling anyone pro-Russian as 'separatists' or 'terrorists,' and then wondering why they’d want to align with Russia. And you’re blaming Russia for stepping in?

And let’s not forget NATO. NATO's eastward expansion since the 1990s, despite promises made to Gorbachev that NATO wouldn’t expand 'one inch eastward,' has been a constant thorn in Russia’s side. The U.S. and its allies have been militarizing Russia’s borders for years. With Kyiv's violent, anti-Russian campaign in the Donbas, when Ukraine started talking about joining NATO, That was the final straw for Russia.

Would the U.S. tolerate Mexico or Canada joining a military alliance with Russia and hosting Russian troops on its borders? Absolutely not. Remember the Cuban Missile Crisis? The U.S. was ready to go to nuclear war over missiles being placed near its borders, but Russia is supposed to sit quietly while NATO creeps closer to Moscow?

Russia didn’t 'invade' Crimea. Crimea voted to rejoin Russia in a referendum, with over 90% supporting the move. Crimea had been part of Russia since 1783, and it was only given to Ukraine during Soviet times. When the legitimate Ukrainian government was toppled, Crimea didn’t want to live under a fascist-aligned regime. The same goes for Eastern Ukraine's ethnic Russians. They've been resisting the encroachment of the Kyiv coup regime, since 2014. Fighting these evil, anti-Russian, thug-nazis,

(Ironically, Hitler would probably execute them for all of the crimes they've committed against the civilians of the Donbas. Hitler was an honorable, civilized, heroic man, worthy of respect and praise, despite his error of invading Soviet Russia. Hitler and Stalin should've been allies, not enemies. Yes I'm more than wiling to open this can of worms because it's an important element for people to get a more accurate image of history and what is happening today.)

In short, Russia didn’t have a choice but to intervene to protect its own people and interests in Ukraine. It’s the West, with its NATO expansion and meddling in Ukraine’s internal affairs, that’s responsible for this crisis, not Russia or "PUTIN". Reality is a bit more nuanced than you think.
 
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A smart realist Todd, who thinks rationally, and critically would say, OK, these nations are European, there's no reason why they can't join the EU, improving their economies, but the Russians have their own version of our "Monroe doctrine" and in view of NATO's Cold War history and baggage, we should form new defense treaties with Eastern Europe, that doesn't include NATO. NATO was created to defend Western Europe against possible Soviet military aggression, so we will keep NATO in Western Europe and create and develop a whole new defense infrastructure and apparatus in Eastern Europe. That's the smart and reasonable, thoughtful, practical Todd.

Here is Todd the smart-realist:


" Oh OK, you Russians are telling us that we promised not to extend NATO into Eastern Europe. We're not doing that, so we kept our promise. However you should realize that these sovereign Eastern European nations have a right to join the EU economy, if the EU accepts them, and you don't have the right to stop them hence you shouldn't threaten them with war, or begin saber-rattling on their border, because if you do that, the EU with the US, will defend these nations against your unwarranted military aggression. Do you understand?"

The Russians: " Granted, however, due to our history with you, we don't want you deploying your missiles or building American military bases on our border, because if you do that, you're eliminating the strategic deterrence value of our ICBMs, placing yours way too close to ours and of course our cities.

We don't like the fact that Eastern Europe is gravitating towards the West and seeking EU membership, we would prefer those countries remain within our sphere of influence, however, we can't stop them from becoming members of the EU, hence we won't. BUT, we will not allow those countries to threaten our national security by becoming launching pads for your ICBMs or establishing an adversarial stance against us, at the expense of our strategic deterrence capabilities. Just like you wouldn't allow Russian missiles in Mexico, pointed at you or in Cuba, we don't want your missiles too close to us, here in Eastern Europe, especially on our border.."


Todd the smart-realist:

"Strategically, we don't have to arm Eastern Europe with nukes, in order to defend them, so we don't have an issue with what you're telling us. We understand what your concerns are and we will try, within reason, to address and accommodate your national security concerns.

However, it must be said, that if Russia threatens Eastern Europe militarily, without an actual, direct provocation, you will have to deal with us, and that might entail more than half a million American troops, with plenty of our best hardware deployed on your border with these countries.

You have no legitimate reason, to threaten these countries if they're not clearly, threatening you, deploying our ICBMs and allowing us to build our bases on their soil. NATO the Cold War dinosaur is never going to extend itself into Eastern Europe, it will never be on your border, hence we kept our promise to you, so you have no right to commit an act of military aggression against them."


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Now this is stupid Todd:


"We can do whatever we want in Eastern Europe, including arming all of those nations with nukes. We can extend NATO, that Cold War relic, that is inherently hostile to Russia, operationally, doctrinally, and historically, right up to Russia's border. You don't like that? Too bad, we're Americans, and we can do whatever we want, anywhere around the world. NATO is going to be right there, in your face, saber rattling, poking the bear, with tens of thousands of American troops and hardware.

OOH, Look at that, there's a president in Ukraine, who is neutral toward Russia and wants to establish and maintain friendly political and economic ties with Russia. We American imperialist, jingoist assholes, don't like that...We want Ukraine to be hostile towards Russia, so we're going to ferment anti-Russian sentiments in Western Ukraine, we're going to agitate for Russophobia, we're going to make things so volatile, that if the Russian-friendly president of Ukraine, doesn't accept the free-trade agreement with the EU, it will plunge Ukraine into civil unrest and perhaps even civil war. "


Todd's capitalist buddies in the American Military Industrial Complex:

"Todd, that's great. That way we can make tens of billions of dollars selling weapons to the US government when our cronies in Washington decide to assist Ukraine with the weapons we manufacture. That's a great idea Todd, we need as much instability and strife in Eastern Europe as possible. That's exactly what serves our vested interests in that part of the world. Keep poking the bear Todd. Hell, we might even start WWW3, hehehehe, hey that's OK, we're wealthy and have our luxury, underground bunkers, fully stocked, with 40 years worth of supplies, hence we'll survive and even thrive after the Apocalypse. "


Todd the dingleberry:

"I hate Russia, I hate it....So I don't care if the missiles start flying. I'm here in Chicago, but I'm not scared. I will hide under my desk, with my new collection of colorful pencils and erasers as I used to do in elementary school when we had nuclear war safety drills. I will be safe, and secure with my family here under the desk in Chicago. I'm Todd the Jingoist moron durrrrrrr"..

the Russians have their own version of our "Monroe doctrine"

The largest nation in the world, with the biggest inferiority complex. LOL!
 
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