You are unemployed and want a new job, under a Democratic president you have a better chance of getting one!

Todd, you’re telling me Eastern Europe was "enslaved" by the USSR?

It was in all the papers.

See Prague Spring and the Hungarian Uprising.

As far as what you said about Putin threatening to invade the countries that joined NATO, show me, when that occurred.

No, you clown, look at all the non-NATO members Putin invaded.
Before I respond again to your stupid rhetoric about the USSR enslaving Eastern Europe, which conveniently ignores everything I mentioned in my last post, I want you to be more specific as to which non-NATO members in Eastern Europe you're talking about. You justify NATO expansion based upon the false premise that Putin threatened to invade Eastern European countries, unjustly and outside of the context of NATO expansion. When did this happen?
 
Before I respond again to your stupid rhetoric about the USSR enslaving Eastern Europe, which conveniently ignores everything I mentioned in my last post, I want you to be more specific as to which non-NATO members in Eastern Europe you're talking about. You justify NATO expansion based upon the false premise that Putin threatened to invade Eastern European countries, unjustly and outside of the context of NATO expansion. When did this happen?
you're just RAMBLING ON ABOUT NOTHING AGAIN ...
 
Before I respond again to your stupid rhetoric about the USSR enslaving Eastern Europe, which conveniently ignores everything I mentioned in my last post, I want you to be more specific as to which non-NATO members in Eastern Europe you're talking about. You justify NATO expansion based upon the false premise that Putin threatened to invade Eastern European countries, unjustly and outside of the context of NATO expansion. When did this happen?

You justify NATO expansion based upon the false premise that Putin threatened to invade Eastern European countries,

No, you ignorant twit, I justify NATO expansion upon the fact that Russia enslaved
those countries after WWII.

I acknowledge the wisdom of their NATO membership by observing none of those new NATO members has been invaded by Putin, while he has invaded Chechnya, Georgia and Ukraine.
 
Reagan DID clean up Carter's mess but Carter was a bad president.

Trump cleaning up Obama's mess? Hahaha

Trump INHERITED a growing economy and he did very little to make it better.


and another article (of many)
Stock market gained 3000 in the four months after Trump was elected, and lost 3000 in the four months after Chimpy was "elected".
 
Stock market gained 3000 in the four months after Trump was elected, and lost 3000 in the four months after Chimpy was "elected".
that never happened to Trump, show us your proof ... stop lying ... the real story shows how great the market has done under Biden is the real story ... he doubled the market while he is president ... what did trump do that helped the country ... going to love to hear this one from you ... here let me help... he cut taxes for the rich causing the national debt to go up 11 trillion dollars ... which he said the middle-class will get a 4000 dollar tax cut ...which never happen ...so again what did trump do for us people of the united states ??? other being responsible for the killing off 1.2 million people for a starter ...
 
Stock market gained 3000 in the four months after Trump was elected, and lost 3000 in the four months after Chimpy was "elected".
The stock market gained 12,000 after Obama was elected and Trump inherited that growing economy

Here is a chart that explains it exactly

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1.8% in 2016?
Not much of a booming economy handed over.
One year? I showed you charts that cover 20 years and if you look, every single president has had up and down years from one year to the other. It is the sum total of the presidency that counts and the sum total of Obama was a 2.5% growth and the sum total of Trump was a 2.6% growth. That is not much to talk about between the two or even among the last 12 presidents as the economy was actually better before Obama and Trump came aboard, Neither one of them has anything great to talk about

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One year? I showed you charts that cover 20 years and if you look, every single president has had up and down years from one year to the other. It is the sum total of the presidency that counts and the sum total of Obama was a 2.5% growth and the sum total of Trump was a 2.6% growth. That is not much to talk about between the two or even among the last 12 presidents as the economy was actually better before Obama and Trump came aboard, Neither one of them has anything great to talk about

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One year?

Obviously. Some stupid twat said......

"Trump inherited that growing economy"

He didn't inherit that "growing economy" from 2013 or 2010, he inherited the economy from 2016.
 
One year?

Obviously. Some stupid twat said......

"Trump inherited that growing economy"

He didn't inherit that "growing economy" from 2013 or 2010, he inherited the economy from 2016.
ever hear of momentum. In the stock market chart I showed you, there was not ONE single year during the Obama presidency where the market went down. From December 2015 to December 2016 (just before Trump took over), the DOW went up from 15565 to 20135, which is a 34% rise in one year for Obama, which is the SAME percentage rise that Trump had in 4 years.
 
ever hear of momentum. In the stock market chart I showed you, there was not ONE single year during the Obama presidency where the market went down. From December 2015 to December 2016 (just before Trump took over), the DOW went up from 15565 to 20135, which is a 34% rise in one year for Obama, which is the SAME percentage rise that Trump had in 4 years.

ever hear of momentum.

Hear of it? I posted it!!!

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+2.9% in 2015, +1.8% in 2016!!!

WooHoo!

Climb aboard that Obama boom!!!
 
You justify NATO expansion based upon the false premise that Putin threatened to invade Eastern European countries,

No, you ignorant twit, I justify NATO expansion upon the fact that Russia enslaved
those countries after WWII.

I acknowledge the wisdom of their NATO membership by observing none of those new NATO members has been invaded by Putin, while he has invaded Chechnya, Georgia and Ukraine.



You’re really digging deep into the archives, huh? 'It was in all the papers', great genius. Let me guess, you also think the U.S. should have to pay for what happened to the Native Americans, Black slaves, and countless others because 'it was in all the papers' back in the day, right? Moron.

For you, history is a buffet where you pick and choose what to be outraged about. Let’s drag out the ghosts of 1945 and scream ‘enslavement!’ when it comes to Eastern Europe, but we’ll conveniently ignore the fact that modern-day Russia isn’t the USSR. Newsflash: Putin isn’t Stalin. But I guess subtlety and nuance are lost on someone who sees the world through a Cold War kaleidoscope.

You justify NATO expansion because… what? Russia isn’t marauding across Europe like it’s 1941? How generous of you to point out that none of the NATO members have been invaded by Putin. That’s like congratulating the U.S. for not invading Canada lately, great job, gold star! You fucking idiot.

Except, you completely miss the point that Russia’s actions have been provoked by NATO’s constant expansion, a relic of the Cold War that should’ve been buried over thirty years ago.

Chechnya? Really? That’s your shining example of ‘non-NATO countries being invaded’? You do realize Chechnya is within Russia’s own borders, right? That’s like me saying the U.S. invaded Texas during the Civil War, utterly nonsensical.

And Georgia? Oh yes, Georgia, where NATO had its grubby fingers meddling, and Russia stepped in during a land dispute. But that’s 'enslavement' to you, right? Sure. Asshole.

And let’s not even talk about Ukraine. You conveniently gloss over that messy little 2014 coup, funded and encouraged by the West, which turned Ukraine into a pawn in NATO's game of checkers.



Crimea voted to rejoin Russia, don’t like democracy now? Or is it just 'enslavement' when the people vote in a way you don't approve of?

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Meanwhile, while you rant about so-called ‘enslavement’ under the USSR, a significant chunk of people who lived under that system don’t share your selective outrage. They miss it. Why? Because despite its flaws, they had jobs, healthcare, housing, and a sense of purpose. Go ahead, Todd, show me one poll where a group of Black Americans are nostalgic for slavery or Native Americans miss the good old days of their land being stolen. Spoiler alert: you won’t find one, because those were actual cases of enslavement. Your comparison falls flat on its face, cheese dick.

You throw around words like 'enslavement' because it fits your narrative. But I’ll tell you what’s really happening here: NATO is expanding because it’s a profit machine. The military industrial complex sees Eastern Europe as its next playground, with American and European weapons companies raking in the cash. But yeah, sure, let’s keep pretending this is about 'freedom' and 'protection' from the big, bad bear.

At the end of the day, Todd, your worldview is just as outdated as your references. Get out of the Cold War. The world has moved on, even if you haven’t.
 
ever hear of momentum.

Hear of it? I posted it!!!

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+2.9% in 2015, +1.8% in 2016!!!

WooHoo!

Climb aboard that Obama boom!!!

That drop from 2015 to 2016 is hardly a disaster, especially when you consider that the Obama administration was pulling the country out of one of the worst recessions in modern history. But yeah, sure, let’s pretend that a 1.8% growth rate is somehow catastrophic and conveniently ignore the context. After all, ignoring the big picture is your specialty.

But let’s put it this way: a 1.8% growth rate isn’t exactly a slump when you consider what could’ve been. How about we look at real wages, unemployment, and corporate profits during that same period? Not quite as bleak as you’d want to portray it, is it?

Keep trying to score cheap points by waving around a graph with a slight downward trend, Todd. You might fool yourself, but anyone with a basic understanding of economics knows better.
 
That drop from 2015 to 2016 is hardly a disaster, especially when you consider that the Obama administration was pulling the country out of one of the worst recessions in modern history. But yeah, sure, let’s pretend that a 1.8% growth rate is somehow catastrophic and conveniently ignore the context. After all, ignoring the big picture is your specialty.

But let’s put it this way: a 1.8% growth rate isn’t exactly a slump when you consider what could’ve been. How about we look at real wages, unemployment, and corporate profits during that same period? Not quite as bleak as you’d want to portray it, is it?

Keep trying to score cheap points by waving around a graph with a slight downward trend, Todd. You might fool yourself, but anyone with a basic understanding of economics knows better.
End of story between you and me on this OP. I have no interest in any further communication from you on this topic.
 
One year? I showed you charts that cover 20 years and if you look, every single president has had up and down years from one year to the other. It is the sum total of the presidency that counts and the sum total of Obama was a 2.5% growth and the sum total of Trump was a 2.6% growth. That is not much to talk about between the two or even among the last 12 presidents as the economy was actually better before Obama and Trump came aboard, Neither one of them has anything great to talk about

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He doesn't give a shit about the facts and rational thought. He's a pathetic peckerhead.
 
ever hear of momentum. In the stock market chart I showed you, there was not ONE single year during the Obama presidency where the market went down. From December 2015 to December 2016 (just before Trump took over), the DOW went up from 15565 to 20135, which is a 34% rise in one year for Obama, which is the SAME percentage rise that Trump had in 4 years.

Well, first of all, 15565 to 20135 is a 29% rise, you fake financial adviser.
Second, the Dow never dropped below 17,100 in December 2015.
It ended 2015 at 17,425. Not 15,565 you silly bank teller.
The day of the election, when Hillary was guaranteed a win, it closed at 18,332.
Looks like Obama saw a bit over a 5.2% increase up to that day.
From election day until the end of 2016, the Trump rally was 7.8%.



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