Yes...the Central Park 5 were guilty....but they are now left wing saints...

[2aguy]

The other guy, as shown in the article, sat on the information until most of the 5 had served their too short sentences, and then, as it was revealed, only admitted to it to protect himself from one of the 5s gang. The guy who confessed was a convicted serial rapist, who raped and murdered a pregnant woman.......

Another left wing Saint....right?

Not at all. But the point was, the DNA proved he did it, and not the other five... So there's that.

So it kind of cuts both ways... He could have just as easily given up information implicating the other five, which the City would have just loved, as it gets them off the hook for millions. If the only thing he was bargaining for was his prison location, implicating the five would have gained him a lot more than confessing.

Keep in mind, he wasn't even on anyone's radar until he confessed, and then someone bothered to test the DNA evidence.

They attacked the woman and beat her into a coma........they admitted that.....and they were part of a larger pack of criminals......

Defenders of the Five point out that the DNA of the semen inside the jogger's cervix did not match that of McCray, Richardson, Santana, Wise, or Salaam — supposedly proving the boys' innocence.

But in fact, it proves only that none of those five had actually penetrated the victim's vagina. It does not negate the fact that all fiveprovided vivid testimony proving beyond any doubt that they were part of the vicious horde that had committed one of the most brutal, barbaric attacks in living memory.

Nor does it alter the fact that their mere presence in that horde made them legally complicit in Miss Meili's rape. The fact that their semen was not inside the victim's body is not a get-out-of-jail-free card. Authorities always knew that there were other assailants, besides the Five, who had brutalized the victim and gotten away.

 

[Manonthestreet]

From what I understand they all confessed to things only an attacker would know before the cops had gathered all the facts. Their confessions were detailed, not generic.

 

[JoeB131]

They attacked the woman and beat her into a coma........they admitted that.....and they were part of a larger pack of criminals......

No, they were brutalized into making false confessions by the police, which happens way too often because Police aren't terribly professional in some respects.

But in fact, it proves only that none of those five had actually penetrated the victim's vagina. It does not negate the fact that all fiveprovided vivid testimony proving beyond any doubt that they were part of the vicious horde that had committed one of the most brutal, barbaric attacks in living memory.

No, it only proves massive police incompetence and misconduct. Other than their coerced confessions, which were almost immediately recanted, the police did not have one bit of evidence against them. No DNA, not witnesses (not even the victim herself).

From what I understand they all confessed to things only an attacker would know before the cops had gathered all the facts. Their confessions were detailed, not generic.

Details the cops provided...

So let's say a judge threw the confessions out, what else did they have?

 

[2aguy]

They attacked the woman and beat her into a coma........they admitted that.....and they were part of a larger pack of criminals......

No, they were brutalized into making false confessions by the police, which happens way too often because Police aren't terribly professional in some respects.

But in fact, it proves only that none of those five had actually penetrated the victim's vagina. It does not negate the fact that all fiveprovided vivid testimony proving beyond any doubt that they were part of the vicious horde that had committed one of the most brutal, barbaric attacks in living memory.

No, it only proves massive police incompetence and misconduct. Other than their coerced confessions, which were almost immediately recanted, the police did not have one bit of evidence against them. No DNA, not witnesses (not even the victim herself).

From what I understand they all confessed to things only an attacker would know before the cops had gathered all the facts. Their confessions were detailed, not generic.

Details the cops provided...

So let's say a judge threw the confessions out, what else did they have?

Moron, they had family members with them when they were questioned....

DNA wasn't a major crime fighting tool at the time, you moron........semen was collected for blood type, not DNA......

The judge didn't throw out their confessions, you moron........

Make up a magical situation...no confessions, and then come to the conclusion that they were innocent waifs....

 

[Toro]

This thread is like trying to vindicate Al Sharpton being right about Tawana Brawley by taking all sorts of shit out of context.

lol

Trump worshippers will believe anything to defend their Orange God.

 

[2aguy]

This thread is like trying to vindicate Al Sharpton being right about Tawana Brawley by taking all sorts of shit out of context.

lol

Trump worshippers will believe anything to defend their Orange God.

Are you really that stupid....? the race hustler sharpton and tawana brawley lied......were caught lying and he had to pay a huge settlement to the man he slandered.....

 

[Correll]

So basically democrats are promoting young blacks to rape and beat white woman? Lol who’s the party of racism?? Wow

So basically.....that's what you get from this, right?

It is the only conclusion to be reached by your actions.

 

[Correll]

This thread is like trying to vindicate Al Sharpton being right about Tawana Brawley by taking all sorts of shit out of context.

lol

Trump worshippers will believe anything to defend their Orange God.

This has nothing to do with Trump. You are insane. The facts of the case are clear.

 

[Correll]

So basically democrats are promoting young blacks to rape and beat white woman? Lol who’s the party of racism?? Wow

So basically.....that's what you get from this, right?

Are you saying this women went for a jog saw a bunch of blacks started hitting her head on rocks? Then blamed the blacks? Lol

I believe the topic is about the guilt or innocence of these particular 5 boys.....and yet it's turning into a condemnation of all black males. Interesting how these discussions always seem to go in that direction around here.

His point was actually about the actions of white liberals, or "Dems". FUnny that you missed that, and made it about race.

 

[Correll]

This thread is like trying to vindicate Al Sharpton being right about Tawana Brawley by taking all sorts of shit out of context.

lol

Trump worshippers will believe anything to defend their Orange God.

Are you really that stupid....? the race hustler sharpton and tawana brawley lied......were caught lying and he had to pay a huge settlement to the man he slandered.....

Which is not what happened here at all.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

What I understand is the complete subjugation of people to what donnie orders them to believe....5th Ave Syndrome, no matter what.

 

[Manonthestreet]

This thread is like trying to vindicate Al Sharpton being right about Tawana Brawley by taking all sorts of shit out of context.

lol

Trump worshippers will believe anything to defend their Orange God.

This has nothing to do with Trump

 

[rightwinger]

So...the DNA and confession by someone else is all fake news? Based on what the Orange God says?

If Trump said they were guilty, they must have been

He wouldn’t lie to us

 

[JoeB131]

Moron, they had family members with them when they were questioned....

DNA wasn't a major crime fighting tool at the time, you moron........semen was collected for blood type, not DNA......

The judge didn't throw out their confessions, you moron........

Make up a magical situation...no confessions, and then come to the conclusion that they were innocent waifs....

Actually, they were questioned for seven hours without their parents or a lawyer present. We are talking about kids from 14-16 years old.

No witnesses, no dna, no evidence and a questionable confession that should have been thrown out.

MEANWHILE-

'Central Park 5' Prosecutor Elizabeth Lederer Resigns from Columbia Law School

Central Park Five prosecutor Linda Fairstein resigns from Vassar College board - CNN

Publisher drops Central Park Five prosecutor

 

[2aguy]

Moron, they had family members with them when they were questioned....

DNA wasn't a major crime fighting tool at the time, you moron........semen was collected for blood type, not DNA......

The judge didn't throw out their confessions, you moron........

Make up a magical situation...no confessions, and then come to the conclusion that they were innocent waifs....

Actually, they were questioned for seven hours without their parents or a lawyer present. We are talking about kids from 14-16 years old.

No witnesses, no dna, no evidence and a questionable confession that should have been thrown out.

MEANWHILE-

'Central Park 5' Prosecutor Elizabeth Lederer Resigns from Columbia Law School

Central Park Five prosecutor Linda Fairstein resigns from Vassar College board - CNN

Publisher drops Central Park Five prosecutor

Wrong, again...one of the thugs had a fake i.d. that said he was 16 or older so they questioned him till his Aunt arrived and got him a lawyer......

And yes....left wing fascists have gone after the Prosecutor.....which is why we need to protect political donations by keeping them secret...

I understand that violent, monsters are now the martyrs for left wing SJW causes...since all the real battles were won back in the 1960s.....and you need your saints......no matter how many people they murder...

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

The Central Park 5 were part of a pack of monsters who attacked and beat a woman into a coma......now they are left wing saints....they even have a left wing fake documentary hiding their crimes........

The Central Park 5 Were Murderous Thugs

Why did the violent, murdering rapist who eventually confessed to the actual rape, confess to the rape when he didn't have to?

Reyes said he felt guilty that five innocent men had been punished for a crime that he committed. But those punishments were basically over by the time Reyes made his confession. Four members of the Central Park Five were already out of prison, and the fifth, Kharey Wise, was scheduled to be released very soon. It is simply not believable that a lifelong remorseless monster like Matias Reyes would suddenly have been motivated by a pang of guilt.

A much more plausible explanation rests with the well-substantiated fact that Reyes, who had recentlybeen moved to Kharey Wise's prison cellblock, feared Wise's gang and desperately wanted to be transferred to a more secure and hospitable prison location. And sure enough, after he confessed to the rape of Miss Meili, he quickly received the transfer that he wanted.

It was the socialist mayor who allowed the settlement with these monsters...

Reyes's confession prompted New York District Attorney Robert Morgenthau to vacate the convictions against the Central Park Five. This, in turn, set the stage for the Five to bring a $250 million lawsuit against the City of New York in 2003, for malicious prosecution, racial discrimination, and emotional distress. For the next eleven years, city attorneys refused to settle the suit and repeatedly vowed that they would fight it out in court.

But when Bill de Blasio took over as Mayor of New York in 2014, his administration quickly reached a $41 million settlement with the plaintiffs. This decision to settle the case was a reflection of de Blasio's deep-seated belief that the American criminal-justice system is infested with racism, and, by logical extension, that the Central Park Five were among its many unfortunate victims. De Blasio articulated this theme with utmost clarity later that same year:
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Eric Reynolds, a black NYPD officer who first arrested a number of the suspects in the Central Park jogger case in April 1989, was disgusted by the de Blasio administration's deal with Miss Meili's five assailants. “If we had gone to trial in their lawsuit … all the facts would have come out,” said Reynolds. “It would have been clear they [the Central Park Five] participated, and [Matias] Reyes didn’t act alone. The evidence supported it. They did not want to go to trial. They just wanted to get paid.”

Significantly, Reynolds notes that he himself had never been named as a defendant in the Central Park Five's lawsuit against New York City — most likely, he believes, because including a black officer as a target of such a suit would have contradicted the narrative of a white racist system abusing minority youngsters.
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As for allegations that the suspects' confessions had been coerced by police, Reynolds says: “[Trisha Meili] was in a coma. If we’re railroading [the suspects], how do we know when she comes out of the coma what story she’s going to tell? If you are trying to pin it on someone, why would you risk that she would say something different?” Mike Sheehan, one of the detectives who investigated the attack against Miss Meili, concurs: “All of this stuff about coercion really pisses me off. Do you honestly think that we — detectives with more than 20 years in, family men with pensions — would risk all of that so we could put words in the mouth of a 15 year-old kid? Absolutely not.”

I never understood how (supposedly) grown men entertain conspiracy theories. Is it out of boredom? A need to do unnecessary 'fact finding' from biased sources (dailycaller? anncoulter.com? GTFO) that does absolutely nothing to change the outcome of events? Is it like a little game to them? Seems like a monumental waste of time, unless you're retired.

 

[Correll]

So...the DNA and confession by someone else is all fake news? Based on what the Orange God says?

If Trump said they were guilty, they must have been

He wouldn’t lie to us

This has nothing to do with Trump.

 

[rightwinger]

So...the DNA and confession by someone else is all fake news? Based on what the Orange God says?

If Trump said they were guilty, they must have been

He wouldn’t lie to us

This has nothing to do with Trump.

A full page ad declaring their guilt?

 

[Correll]

So...the DNA and confession by someone else is all fake news? Based on what the Orange God says?

If Trump said they were guilty, they must have been

He wouldn’t lie to us

This has nothing to do with Trump.

A full page ad declaring their guilt?

Correct, irrelevant.



Why do you care what Trump's opinion on this matter is? I don't.

 

[rightwinger]

So...the DNA and confession by someone else is all fake news? Based on what the Orange God says?

If Trump said they were guilty, they must have been

He wouldn’t lie to us

This has nothing to do with Trump.

A full page ad declaring their guilt?

Correct, irrelevant.



Why do you care what Trump's opinion on this matter is? I don't.

Trump gathering a lynch mob