Yes it's a good idea - Let's eliminate the Department of Education

[Unkotare]

... If lunatics in the NE and on the West Coast want to ruin their kids, that is on them....

The best schools in the country are in MA.

 

[Moonglow]

The purpose of public education is to teach the youngsters to submit to the authority of the state.

Don't forget to mean it when you give the pledge.

 

[Dismantle this Country]

To be stolen from the people and redistributed to corporations and special interests. Were you born last night?

Ya, that makes sense. lmao

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

rich bitches making moves they don't understand.

Your meltdowns are awesome

 

[Moonglow]

In my mammoth local school district, the NEA garnishes public school teachers wages for union dues — whether they agree to partake or not — and then donates to the DNC.

Show us the receipts from the donations.

 

[Moonglow]

Your meltdowns are awesome

Redundancy will not make you relevant

 

[PeterPilot]

Ya, that makes sense. lmao

It makes sense only because that is what is now and has been happening in this country for many decades. Ike warned about it in 1961 but it fell on deaf ears. Our political system is owned by the Israeli State and the Military Industrial Complex.

 

[Unkotare]

Don't forget to mean it when you give the pledge.

 

[Mr Natural]

But it hasn’t. Our educational system has digressed yearly since Carter, a Democrat, created the DOA.

Schools should be run state by state and county by county. If lunatics in the NE and on the West Coast want to ruin their kids, that is on them. I have a feeling that there are some normal families in those states that would kick the lefty loons to the curb.

Them crackers down there in Gooberville don’t need none of that Yankee book learning crap.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

No, I don’t need to back up your claims.

Right wingers do this all the time.

If you don’t have the integrity to stand behind your own claims, it’s not my problem.

The mental disease of leftism is your problem.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Get rid of the Dept. of Education and employ school vouchers!

Good schools get stronger...shit schools die out.

Vouchers are a state issue and are doomed to failure as they have always been.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Speaking as a geezer parent, grandparent and former teacher I can tell you that public schools were vastly better before the Department of Education set the federal government to meddling in running the schools.

Really? Were you a teacher in Arkansas, Louisiana, or Mississippi in the 1970s?

The federal government has nothing to do with the decline in schools. Special education, and immigration are the actual major culprits. All the federal government did was make sure states desegregated their educational systems and didn't ignore special needs children. The educational world is so much easier to see when you remove your blinders. I had mine removed when I got my teacher certification and then went on to graduate school where I studied the history of education.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

But it hasn’t. Our educational system has digressed yearly since Carter, a Democrat, created the DOA.

Schools should be run state by state and county by county. If lunatics in the NE and on the West Coast want to ruin their kids, that is on them. I have a feeling that there are some normal families in those states that would kick the lefty loons to the curb.

Correlation is not causation. The decline in education had nothing to do with the Education Department, which used to exist as part of another department anyway. They just made it cabinet level to ease enforcement.

The ignorance in some of these comments is stupefying. What you don't know and assume to be true hurts everyone.

Perhaps we need to get rid of most of the functions as a cabinet-level position because it has served its purpose. I have no problem getting it downsized and incorporated into say HHS. We need to get the feds out of student loans.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Your taxes are going to schools that are falling way short of their mission. Students are graduating as young adults and cannot read or do basic arithmetic. Unions sit idle and watch schools fail.

Unions are responsible for teacher rights to compensation, benefits, due process rights, working conditions, and nothing more. They have nothing to do with the educational process or shouldn't like they used to be.

 

[GMCGeneral]

So are fire departments and the US Postal Service, Public Health Departments and Weather Service.

Hey PeterPuffer. Ever hear of Rural Metro? Or how about UPS, FedEx etc?

 

[GMCGeneral]

Unions are responsible for teacher rights to compensation, benefits, due process rights, working conditions, and nothing more. They have nothing to do with the educational process or shouldn't like they used to be.

And tenure. Unions ensure that crappy teachers never get fired, dumbass.

 

[GMCGeneral]

Correlation is not causation. The decline in education had nothing to do with the Education Department, which used to exist as part of another department anyway. They just made it cabinet level to ease enforcement.

The ignorance in some of these comments is stupefying. What you don't know and assume to be true hurts everyone.

Perhaps we need to get rid of most of the functions as a cabinet-level position because it has served its purpose. I have no problem getting it downsized and incorporated into say HHS. We need to get the feds out of student loans.

Sure as hell does! Before 1978 when the DoE was created (quid pro quo by Jimmah Cahtah to the NEA for their 1976 endorsement), our educational standards and performance were much better. Since then, down the toilet bowl.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The NEA. They use the plight of students in failing schools to get more money yet the money never seems to be spent properly..

The unions fight vouchers like the a disease because if there are not enough bodies in under performing schools, then that is less money for the union.

The NEA has nothing to do with school funding. Where did you get that silly idea?

Do you have any idea what the union dues are for teacher? The NEA makes little to nothing. The money spent for contributions to politicians is often limited by its members. I controlled whether a portion of my dues could be used for political purposes. I never allowed it when I was a union member, which was rarely. Unless you have tenure, unions are useless to protect you from termination without cause.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And tenure. Unions ensure that crappy teachers never get fired, dumbass.

Try getting tenure in a school these days. Let me tell you what schools do. In my state, it took 3 full years to qualify for tenure. Guess at the did to me TWICE! At the end of the third year, they simply declined to renew my contract for the 4th year. Why? I had enough seniority in terms of years of service, they couldn't afford to pay my salary. I lost my last position because they could pay two new teachers coming out of college for what they could pay me. At one of those districts, they gave another teacher tenure because he had less experience and a lower salary. He kept me apprised of my old job. They replaced my position for three consecutive years with first year teachers, who resigned after their first contract was up.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

DC Public schools is one of the most expensive per capita spend for students at $27k and the system is replete with comparatively lower graduation rates and reading and math scores.

You will also find the salaries of the teachers there are higher because almost all teachers have an hour or more commute because no one can afford to live in DC in anything but the war zones where the students live. That's why they spend so much per student.

I had a Navy friend stationed at the Pentagon many years ago. The closest home he could afford to rent was a 90-minute commute each way. Fortunately, he was a Navy O-5 and had a pretty decent housing allowance.