Yes, illegal aliens have constitutional rights

[OKTexas]

Hey asswipe (Lakhota),

Are you saying that the constitution applies to people who.

1. Are not here physically.
2. Are not citizens.

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

They may have been at airports, but they're not in the US until they have cleared the Port of Entry.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Have they passed immigration ?

These people have already gotten their Visas through the process... and Trump wants to void them based on their country of origin.

If they have not cleared immigration....the courts have no sway in their lives if they are not citizens.

Have you ever traveled internationally ?

Yes, I have. What part of they passed the immigration process and gotten their Visas do you not get?

A visa is clearance to enter the country.

Are you saying that if you have a Visa but are still in your country of origin...the constitution applies ?

It does not ?

You land at a U.S. airport....you can be denied entry even if you have a visa....for a lot of reasons.

You have no rights until you clear.

The judge and the Constitution says you're wrong.

You really like sticking up for the moron who wrote the OP (and who really has no clue as to what it really means) ?

The OP is totally clueless and gutless.

 

[Lewdog]

These words, from Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution rank along with the Constitution's Bill of Rights as — in these precincts — the most important in world and American history:

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

The critics all claim that undocumented workers or immigrants or migrants — whichever label is the flavor of the day — don't have legal rights because they are lawbreakers by entering the country illegally and owe no loyalty to the United States. They claim that only U.S. citizens (natural born or naturalized) are protected by the Constitution. The critics are not only wrong — they are really, truly and sincerely wrong.

The U.S. Supreme Court settled the issue well over a century ago. But even before the court laid the issue to rest, a principal author of the Constitution, James Madison, the second president of the United States, wrote: "that as they [aliens], owe, on the one hand, a temporary obedience, they are entitled, in return, to their [constitutional] protection and advantage."

More recently, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) that "due process" of the 14th Amendment applies to all aliens in the United States whose presence maybe or is "unlawful, involuntary or transitory."

In summary, the entire case of illegal aliens being covered by and protected by the Constitution has been settled law for 129 years and rests on one word: "person." It is the word "person" that connects the dots of "due process" and "equal protection" in the 14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution and it is those five words that make the Constitution of the United States and its 14th amendment the most important political document since the Magna Carta in all world history.

"Aliens," legal and illegal, have the full panoply of constitutional protections American citizens have with three exceptions: voting, some government jobs and gun ownership (and that is now in doubt) — Glenn Beck and others notwithstanding.

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That should be clear enough for everyone to understand.

They are criminals, that's it.

.

Breaking news!!! Even criminals have rights as people.

Really? Why do we arrest them? Maybe in left-tard land we should just open all jails and prisons and let anarchy reign supreme?

Are you really that brain dead that you don't realize criminals have rights?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

These words, from Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution rank along with the Constitution's Bill of Rights as — in these precincts — the most important in world and American history:

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

The critics all claim that undocumented workers or immigrants or migrants — whichever label is the flavor of the day — don't have legal rights because they are lawbreakers by entering the country illegally and owe no loyalty to the United States. They claim that only U.S. citizens (natural born or naturalized) are protected by the Constitution. The critics are not only wrong — they are really, truly and sincerely wrong.

The U.S. Supreme Court settled the issue well over a century ago. But even before the court laid the issue to rest, a principal author of the Constitution, James Madison, the second president of the United States, wrote: "that as they [aliens], owe, on the one hand, a temporary obedience, they are entitled, in return, to their [constitutional] protection and advantage."

More recently, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) that "due process" of the 14th Amendment applies to all aliens in the United States whose presence maybe or is "unlawful, involuntary or transitory."

In summary, the entire case of illegal aliens being covered by and protected by the Constitution has been settled law for 129 years and rests on one word: "person." It is the word "person" that connects the dots of "due process" and "equal protection" in the 14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution and it is those five words that make the Constitution of the United States and its 14th amendment the most important political document since the Magna Carta in all world history.

"Aliens," legal and illegal, have the full panoply of constitutional protections American citizens have with three exceptions: voting, some government jobs and gun ownership (and that is now in doubt) — Glenn Beck and others notwithstanding.

More w/Supporting Cases: Yes, illegal aliens have constitutional rights

That should be clear enough for everyone to understand.

They are criminals, that's it.

.

Breaking news!!! Even criminals have rights as people.

Really? Why do we arrest them? Maybe in left-tard land we should just open all jails and prisons and let anarchy reign supreme?

Geezus H. Kryst, will some of you fucking retards just read the OP very s-l-o-w-l-y and then also read Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. It ain't that difficult...

Apparently it is for you.

 

[OKTexas]

Hey asswipe (Lakhota),

Are you saying that the constitution applies to people who.

1. Are not here physically.
2. Are not citizens.

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Link to these airport people?

If you haven't been watching the news and seeing stories of people with Visas stuck at U.S. airports not allowed to leave and enter the country, that's on you. It was literally plastered on the news.

And all have been resolved.

 

[baileyn45]

These words, from Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution rank along with the Constitution's Bill of Rights as — in these precincts — the most important in world and American history:

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

The critics all claim that undocumented workers or immigrants or migrants — whichever label is the flavor of the day — don't have legal rights because they are lawbreakers by entering the country illegally and owe no loyalty to the United States. They claim that only U.S. citizens (natural born or naturalized) are protected by the Constitution. The critics are not only wrong — they are really, truly and sincerely wrong.

The U.S. Supreme Court settled the issue well over a century ago. But even before the court laid the issue to rest, a principal author of the Constitution, James Madison, the second president of the United States, wrote: "that as they [aliens], owe, on the one hand, a temporary obedience, they are entitled, in return, to their [constitutional] protection and advantage."

More recently, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) that "due process" of the 14th Amendment applies to all aliens in the United States whose presence maybe or is "unlawful, involuntary or transitory."

In summary, the entire case of illegal aliens being covered by and protected by the Constitution has been settled law for 129 years and rests on one word: "person." It is the word "person" that connects the dots of "due process" and "equal protection" in the 14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution and it is those five words that make the Constitution of the United States and its 14th amendment the most important political document since the Magna Carta in all world history.

"Aliens," legal and illegal, have the full panoply of constitutional protections American citizens have with three exceptions: voting, some government jobs and gun ownership (and that is now in doubt) — Glenn Beck and others notwithstanding.

More w/Supporting Cases: Yes, illegal aliens have constitutional rights

That should be clear enough for everyone to understand.

I don't see the problem here. They are owed due process, they have broken the law by entering the country illegally, once found guilty deport them. What's the issue?

 

[Lewdog]

These people have already gotten their Visas through the process... and Trump wants to void them based on their country of origin.

If they have not cleared immigration....the courts have no sway in their lives if they are not citizens.

Have you ever traveled internationally ?

Yes, I have. What part of they passed the immigration process and gotten their Visas do you not get?

A visa is clearance to enter the country.

Are you saying that if you have a Visa but are still in your country of origin...the constitution applies ?

It does not ?

You land at a U.S. airport....you can be denied entry even if you have a visa....for a lot of reasons.

You have no rights until you clear.

The judge and the Constitution says you're wrong.

You really like sticking up for the moron who wrote the OP (and who really has no clue as to what it really means) ?

The OP is totally clueless and gutless.

Love how you don't know how to read the Constitution...and how it clearly states "persons" after specifically stating citizens prior to that. Do you not understand that, that was done on purpose?

 

[Boss]

These words, from Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution rank along with the Constitution's Bill of Rights as — in these precincts — the most important in world and American history:

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

The critics all claim that undocumented workers or immigrants or migrants — whichever label is the flavor of the day — don't have legal rights because they are lawbreakers by entering the country illegally and owe no loyalty to the United States. They claim that only U.S. citizens (natural born or naturalized) are protected by the Constitution. The critics are not only wrong — they are really, truly and sincerely wrong.

The U.S. Supreme Court settled the issue well over a century ago. But even before the court laid the issue to rest, a principal author of the Constitution, James Madison, the second president of the United States, wrote: "that as they [aliens], owe, on the one hand, a temporary obedience, they are entitled, in return, to their [constitutional] protection and advantage."

More recently, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) that "due process" of the 14th Amendment applies to all aliens in the United States whose presence maybe or is "unlawful, involuntary or transitory."

In summary, the entire case of illegal aliens being covered by and protected by the Constitution has been settled law for 129 years and rests on one word: "person." It is the word "person" that connects the dots of "due process" and "equal protection" in the 14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution and it is those five words that make the Constitution of the United States and its 14th amendment the most important political document since the Magna Carta in all world history.

"Aliens," legal and illegal, have the full panoply of constitutional protections American citizens have with three exceptions: voting, some government jobs and gun ownership (and that is now in doubt) — Glenn Beck and others notwithstanding.

More w/Supporting Cases: Yes, illegal aliens have constitutional rights

That should be clear enough for everyone to understand.

Then please explain why this didn't apply to Native Americans?

It wasn't until 1924 they were even recognized as citizens.
It wasn't until 1935 their religious freedom was protected.
Other basic civil rights didn't come until 1968. (100 years after ratification of the 14th)

So now you are claiming the Constitution and 14th applies to illegal aliens who have no legal right to be in the country but it did not apply to indigenous people who were here before we came.

And you wonder why people think you're a moron?

What about blacks and women?

What about them? You're sure as fuck not helping your OP argument there.

 

[Andylusion]

Hey asswipe (Lakhota),

Are you saying that the constitution applies to people who.

1. Are not here physically.
2. Are not citizens.

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Ok, I'm confused.

When did we start talking about people at an airport, that have VISAs and were vetted?

When I clicked on the title of this thread, is said:
"Yes, illegal aliens have constitutional rights"

Are you telling me, that Illegal aliens, are vetted, given VISAs and show up on an airplane flight?

Maybe I missed the post were then entire topic of the thread was changed?

 

[Wyatt earp]

These words, from Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution rank along with the Constitution's Bill of Rights as — in these precincts — the most important in world and American history:

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

The critics all claim that undocumented workers or immigrants or migrants — whichever label is the flavor of the day — don't have legal rights because they are lawbreakers by entering the country illegally and owe no loyalty to the United States. They claim that only U.S. citizens (natural born or naturalized) are protected by the Constitution. The critics are not only wrong — they are really, truly and sincerely wrong.

The U.S. Supreme Court settled the issue well over a century ago. But even before the court laid the issue to rest, a principal author of the Constitution, James Madison, the second president of the United States, wrote: "that as they [aliens], owe, on the one hand, a temporary obedience, they are entitled, in return, to their [constitutional] protection and advantage."

More recently, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) that "due process" of the 14th Amendment applies to all aliens in the United States whose presence maybe or is "unlawful, involuntary or transitory."

In summary, the entire case of illegal aliens being covered by and protected by the Constitution has been settled law for 129 years and rests on one word: "person." It is the word "person" that connects the dots of "due process" and "equal protection" in the 14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution and it is those five words that make the Constitution of the United States and its 14th amendment the most important political document since the Magna Carta in all world history.

"Aliens," legal and illegal, have the full panoply of constitutional protections American citizens have with three exceptions: voting, some government jobs and gun ownership (and that is now in doubt) — Glenn Beck and others notwithstanding.

More w/Supporting Cases: Yes, illegal aliens have constitutional rights

That should be clear enough for everyone to understand.

They are criminals, that's it.

.

Breaking news!!! Even criminals have rights as people.

Really? Why do we arrest them? Maybe in left-tard land we should just open all jails and prisons and let anarchy reign supreme?

Are you really that brain dead that you don't realize criminals have rights?

Those criminals are American citizens..

The illegals don't even fucking belong here and should of been shot trying to invade the country.

 

[OKTexas]

Hey asswipe (Lakhota),

Are you saying that the constitution applies to people who.

1. Are not here physically.
2. Are not citizens.

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Have they passed immigration ?

These people have already gotten their Visas through the process... and Trump wants to void them based on their country of origin.

He has that authority.

 

[Lewdog]

Hey asswipe (Lakhota),

Are you saying that the constitution applies to people who.

1. Are not here physically.
2. Are not citizens.

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Link to these airport people?

If you haven't been watching the news and seeing stories of people with Visas stuck at U.S. airports not allowed to leave and enter the country, that's on you. It was literally plastered on the news.

And all have been resolved.

Yes... because of volunteer layers and the stay on the ban by the judge.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

These words, from Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution rank along with the Constitution's Bill of Rights as — in these precincts — the most important in world and American history:

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

The critics all claim that undocumented workers or immigrants or migrants — whichever label is the flavor of the day — don't have legal rights because they are lawbreakers by entering the country illegally and owe no loyalty to the United States. They claim that only U.S. citizens (natural born or naturalized) are protected by the Constitution. The critics are not only wrong — they are really, truly and sincerely wrong.

The U.S. Supreme Court settled the issue well over a century ago. But even before the court laid the issue to rest, a principal author of the Constitution, James Madison, the second president of the United States, wrote: "that as they [aliens], owe, on the one hand, a temporary obedience, they are entitled, in return, to their [constitutional] protection and advantage."

More recently, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) that "due process" of the 14th Amendment applies to all aliens in the United States whose presence maybe or is "unlawful, involuntary or transitory."

In summary, the entire case of illegal aliens being covered by and protected by the Constitution has been settled law for 129 years and rests on one word: "person." It is the word "person" that connects the dots of "due process" and "equal protection" in the 14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution and it is those five words that make the Constitution of the United States and its 14th amendment the most important political document since the Magna Carta in all world history.

"Aliens," legal and illegal, have the full panoply of constitutional protections American citizens have with three exceptions: voting, some government jobs and gun ownership (and that is now in doubt) — Glenn Beck and others notwithstanding.

More w/Supporting Cases: Yes, illegal aliens have constitutional rights

That should be clear enough for everyone to understand.

I don't see the problem here. They are owed due process, they have broken the law by entering the country illegally, once found guilty deport them. What's the issue?

If they haven't even come here...? Rights ? Don't tihnk so.

 

[Lewdog]

Hey asswipe (Lakhota),

Are you saying that the constitution applies to people who.

1. Are not here physically.
2. Are not citizens.

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Have they passed immigration ?

These people have already gotten their Visas through the process... and Trump wants to void them based on their country of origin.

He has that authority.

No, no he doesn't, thus why the judge was able to block his ban.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Hey asswipe (Lakhota),

Are you saying that the constitution applies to people who.

1. Are not here physically.
2. Are not citizens.

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Have they passed immigration ?

These people have already gotten their Visas through the process... and Trump wants to void them based on their country of origin.

He has that authority.

No, no he doesn't, thus why the judge was able to block his ban.

The judge isn't "able"...he simply does. And 85% of the time they are told they got it wrong.

 

[Political Junky]

These words, from Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution rank along with the Constitution's Bill of Rights as — in these precincts — the most important in world and American history:

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

The critics all claim that undocumented workers or immigrants or migrants — whichever label is the flavor of the day — don't have legal rights because they are lawbreakers by entering the country illegally and owe no loyalty to the United States. They claim that only U.S. citizens (natural born or naturalized) are protected by the Constitution. The critics are not only wrong — they are really, truly and sincerely wrong.

The U.S. Supreme Court settled the issue well over a century ago. But even before the court laid the issue to rest, a principal author of the Constitution, James Madison, the second president of the United States, wrote: "that as they [aliens], owe, on the one hand, a temporary obedience, they are entitled, in return, to their [constitutional] protection and advantage."

More recently, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) that "due process" of the 14th Amendment applies to all aliens in the United States whose presence maybe or is "unlawful, involuntary or transitory."

In summary, the entire case of illegal aliens being covered by and protected by the Constitution has been settled law for 129 years and rests on one word: "person." It is the word "person" that connects the dots of "due process" and "equal protection" in the 14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution and it is those five words that make the Constitution of the United States and its 14th amendment the most important political document since the Magna Carta in all world history.

"Aliens," legal and illegal, have the full panoply of constitutional protections American citizens have with three exceptions: voting, some government jobs and gun ownership (and that is now in doubt) — Glenn Beck and others notwithstanding.

More w/Supporting Cases: Yes, illegal aliens have constitutional rights

That should be clear enough for everyone to understand.

They are criminals, that's it.

.

LOL

 

[OKTexas]

Have they passed immigration ?

These people have already gotten their Visas through the process... and Trump wants to void them based on their country of origin.

If they have not cleared immigration....the courts have no sway in their lives if they are not citizens.

Have you ever traveled internationally ?

Yes, I have. What part of they passed the immigration process and gotten their Visas do you not get?

A visa is clearance to enter the country.

Are you saying that if you have a Visa but are still in your country of origin...the constitution applies ?

It does not ?

You land at a U.S. airport....you can be denied entry even if you have a visa....for a lot of reasons.

You have no rights until you clear.

The judge and the Constitution says you're wrong.

Pleas post the article, section and clause that says that.

 

[Boss]

Yes, and that includes "illegal aliens" on American soil according to the OP - as stated in Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.

Which did not include the Native Americans who were here before we came.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Hey asswipe (Lakhota),

Are you saying that the constitution applies to people who.

1. Are not here physically.
2. Are not citizens.

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Have they passed immigration ?

These people have already gotten their Visas through the process... and Trump wants to void them based on their country of origin.

He has that authority.

No, no he doesn't, thus why the judge was able to block his ban.

These are non-citizens that are not here.

Are you arguing that they have constitutional rights ?

Really ?

 

[owebo]

Hey asswipe (Lakhota),

Are you saying that the constitution applies to people who.

1. Are not here physically.
2. Are not citizens.

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Link to these airport people?

If you haven't been watching the news and seeing stories of people with Visas stuck at U.S. airports not allowed to leave and enter the country, that's on you. It was literally plastered on the news.

And all have been resolved.

Yes... because of volunteer layers and the stay on the ban by the judge.

Wait...so there isn't any?