Yes, illegal aliens have constitutional rights

[Lewdog]

Hey asswipe (Lakhota),

Are you saying that the constitution applies to people who.

1. Are not here physically.
2. Are not citizens.

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Link to these airport people?

If you haven't been watching the news and seeing stories of people with Visas stuck at U.S. airports not allowed to leave and enter the country, that's on you. It was literally plastered on the news.

 

[Lewdog]

Hey asswipe (Lakhota),

Are you saying that the constitution applies to people who.

1. Are not here physically.
2. Are not citizens.

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Have they passed immigration ?

These people have already gotten their Visas through the process... and Trump wants to void them based on their country of origin.

 

[Wyatt earp]

These words, from Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution rank along with the Constitution's Bill of Rights as — in these precincts — the most important in world and American history:

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

The critics all claim that undocumented workers or immigrants or migrants — whichever label is the flavor of the day — don't have legal rights because they are lawbreakers by entering the country illegally and owe no loyalty to the United States. They claim that only U.S. citizens (natural born or naturalized) are protected by the Constitution. The critics are not only wrong — they are really, truly and sincerely wrong.

The U.S. Supreme Court settled the issue well over a century ago. But even before the court laid the issue to rest, a principal author of the Constitution, James Madison, the second president of the United States, wrote: "that as they [aliens], owe, on the one hand, a temporary obedience, they are entitled, in return, to their [constitutional] protection and advantage."

More recently, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) that "due process" of the 14th Amendment applies to all aliens in the United States whose presence maybe or is "unlawful, involuntary or transitory."

In summary, the entire case of illegal aliens being covered by and protected by the Constitution has been settled law for 129 years and rests on one word: "person." It is the word "person" that connects the dots of "due process" and "equal protection" in the 14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution and it is those five words that make the Constitution of the United States and its 14th amendment the most important political document since the Magna Carta in all world history.

"Aliens," legal and illegal, have the full panoply of constitutional protections American citizens have with three exceptions: voting, some government jobs and gun ownership (and that is now in doubt) — Glenn Beck and others notwithstanding.

More w/Supporting Cases: Yes, illegal aliens have constitutional rights

That should be clear enough for everyone to understand.

They are criminals, that's it.

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Only in the narrow minds of the uneducated.

Again they are criminals and should be placed kicked across the border asap



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[Lakhota]

Hey asswipe (Lakhota),

Are you saying that the constitution applies to people who.

1. Are not here physically.
2. Are not citizens.

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Yes, and that includes "illegal aliens" on American soil according to the OP - as stated in Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Hey asswipe (Lakhota),

Are you saying that the constitution applies to people who.

1. Are not here physically.
2. Are not citizens.

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Link to these airport people?

If you haven't been watching the news and seeing stories of people with Visas stuck at U.S. airports not allowed to leave and enter the country, that's on you. It was literally plastered on the news.

Just put them on a helicopter and push them out the door some where over Mexico.

Not that hard.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Hey asswipe (Lakhota),

Are you saying that the constitution applies to people who.

1. Are not here physically.
2. Are not citizens.

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Have they passed immigration ?

These people have already gotten their Visas through the process... and Trump wants to void them based on their country of origin.

If they have not cleared immigration....the courts have no sway in their lives if they are not citizens.

Have you ever traveled internationally ?

 

[OKTexas]

Nothing is ever settled.

Everything like this challenged time and time again.

Look at the terrible Citizens United.

There was nothing terrible about Citizens United.

O.K.

We have different opinions.

This is about whether or not the OP is really trying to say that the Constitution reaches out to people who don't live her, who are not citizens, and who are not physically here.

It does to people who have been granted permanent residence, visas, not so much.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Hey asswipe (Lakhota),

Are you saying that the constitution applies to people who.

1. Are not here physically.
2. Are not citizens.

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Yes, and that includes "illegal aliens" on American soil according to the OP - as stated in Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.

Not at all.

If they have not legally immigrated...they are not here.

 

[Lewdog]

Hey asswipe (Lakhota),

Are you saying that the constitution applies to people who.

1. Are not here physically.
2. Are not citizens.

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Have they passed immigration ?

These people have already gotten their Visas through the process... and Trump wants to void them based on their country of origin.

If they have not cleared immigration....the courts have no sway in their lives if they are not citizens.

Have you ever traveled internationally ?

Yes, I have. What part of they passed the immigration process and gotten their Visas do you not get?

 

[owebo]

Hey asswipe (Lakhota),

Are you saying that the constitution applies to people who.

1. Are not here physically.
2. Are not citizens.

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Link to these airport people?

If you haven't been watching the news and seeing stories of people with Visas stuck at U.S. airports not allowed to leave and enter the country, that's on you. It was literally plastered on the news.

Link to these people in airports?

 

[Lewdog]

Hey asswipe (Lakhota),

Are you saying that the constitution applies to people who.

1. Are not here physically.
2. Are not citizens.

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Link to these airport people?

If you haven't been watching the news and seeing stories of people with Visas stuck at U.S. airports not allowed to leave and enter the country, that's on you. It was literally plastered on the news.

Link to these people in airports?

Lawyers try to free immigrants still trapped at U.S. airports

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Hey asswipe (Lakhota),

Are you saying that the constitution applies to people who.

1. Are not here physically.
2. Are not citizens.

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Have they passed immigration ?

These people have already gotten their Visas through the process... and Trump wants to void them based on their country of origin.

If they have not cleared immigration....the courts have no sway in their lives if they are not citizens.

Have you ever traveled internationally ?

Yes, I have. What part of they passed the immigration process and gotten their Visas do you not get?

A visa is clearance to enter the country.

Are you saying that if you have a Visa but are still in your country of origin...the constitution applies ?

It does not ?

You land at a U.S. airport....you can be denied entry even if you have a visa....for a lot of reasons.

You have no rights until you clear.

 

[owebo]

Hey asswipe (Lakhota),

Are you saying that the constitution applies to people who.

1. Are not here physically.
2. Are not citizens.

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Link to these airport people?

If you haven't been watching the news and seeing stories of people with Visas stuck at U.S. airports not allowed to leave and enter the country, that's on you. It was literally plastered on the news.

Link to these people in airports?

Lawyers try to free immigrants still trapped at U.S. airports

No child...link to these people in airports....

Have your mommy ready my words to you....

 

[Lewdog]

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Have they passed immigration ?

These people have already gotten their Visas through the process... and Trump wants to void them based on their country of origin.

If they have not cleared immigration....the courts have no sway in their lives if they are not citizens.

Have you ever traveled internationally ?

Yes, I have. What part of they passed the immigration process and gotten their Visas do you not get?

A visa is clearance to enter the country.

Are you saying that if you have a Visa but are still in your country of origin...the constitution applies ?

It does not ?

You land at a U.S. airport....you can be denied entry even if you have a visa....for a lot of reasons.

You have no rights until you clear.

The judge and the Constitution says you're wrong.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Nothing is ever settled.

Everything like this challenged time and time again.

Look at the terrible Citizens United.

There was nothing terrible about Citizens United.

O.K.

We have different opinions.

This is about whether or not the OP is really trying to say that the Constitution reaches out to people who don't live her, who are not citizens, and who are not physically here.

It does to people who have been granted permanent residence, visas, not so much.

The Constitution does not reach to you as a U.S. Citizen if you are visiting another country and violate it's laws.

How do these idiots think it applies to people in other countries.

 

[Lewdog]

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Link to these airport people?

If you haven't been watching the news and seeing stories of people with Visas stuck at U.S. airports not allowed to leave and enter the country, that's on you. It was literally plastered on the news.

Link to these people in airports?

Lawyers try to free immigrants still trapped at U.S. airports

No child...link to these people in airports....

Have your mommy ready my words to you....

WTF is wrong with you?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Hey asswipe (Lakhota),

Are you saying that the constitution applies to people who.

1. Are not here physically.
2. Are not citizens.

We are talking about people that ARE here at the airports, and people that have already been vetted under the old process and given Visas.

Link to these airport people?

If you haven't been watching the news and seeing stories of people with Visas stuck at U.S. airports not allowed to leave and enter the country, that's on you. It was literally plastered on the news.

Link to these people in airports?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Have they passed immigration ?

These people have already gotten their Visas through the process... and Trump wants to void them based on their country of origin.

If they have not cleared immigration....the courts have no sway in their lives if they are not citizens.

Have you ever traveled internationally ?

Yes, I have. What part of they passed the immigration process and gotten their Visas do you not get?

A visa is clearance to enter the country.

Are you saying that if you have a Visa but are still in your country of origin...the constitution applies ?

It does not ?

You land at a U.S. airport....you can be denied entry even if you have a visa....for a lot of reasons.

You have no rights until you clear.

The judge and the Constitution says you're wrong.

The judge is generally told they are wrong 85% of the time.

Please show me where the constitution says I am wrong.

 

[Andylusion]

These words, from Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution rank along with the Constitution's Bill of Rights as — in these precincts — the most important in world and American history:

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

The critics all claim that undocumented workers or immigrants or migrants — whichever label is the flavor of the day — don't have legal rights because they are lawbreakers by entering the country illegally and owe no loyalty to the United States. They claim that only U.S. citizens (natural born or naturalized) are protected by the Constitution. The critics are not only wrong — they are really, truly and sincerely wrong.

The U.S. Supreme Court settled the issue well over a century ago. But even before the court laid the issue to rest, a principal author of the Constitution, James Madison, the second president of the United States, wrote: "that as they [aliens], owe, on the one hand, a temporary obedience, they are entitled, in return, to their [constitutional] protection and advantage."

More recently, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) that "due process" of the 14th Amendment applies to all aliens in the United States whose presence maybe or is "unlawful, involuntary or transitory."

In summary, the entire case of illegal aliens being covered by and protected by the Constitution has been settled law for 129 years and rests on one word: "person." It is the word "person" that connects the dots of "due process" and "equal protection" in the 14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution and it is those five words that make the Constitution of the United States and its 14th amendment the most important political document since the Magna Carta in all world history.

"Aliens," legal and illegal, have the full panoply of constitutional protections American citizens have with three exceptions: voting, some government jobs and gun ownership (and that is now in doubt) — Glenn Beck and others notwithstanding.

More w/Supporting Cases: Yes, illegal aliens have constitutional rights

That should be clear enough for everyone to understand.

They are criminals, that's it.

.

Breaking news!!! Even criminals have rights as people.

Really? Why do we arrest them? Maybe in left-tard land we should just open all jails and prisons and let anarchy reign supreme?

 

[Lewdog]

Nothing is ever settled.

Everything like this challenged time and time again.

Look at the terrible Citizens United.

There was nothing terrible about Citizens United.

O.K.

We have different opinions.

This is about whether or not the OP is really trying to say that the Constitution reaches out to people who don't live her, who are not citizens, and who are not physically here.

It does to people who have been granted permanent residence, visas, not so much.

The Constitution does not reach to you as a U.S. Citizen if you are visiting another country and violate it's laws.

How do these idiots think it applies to people in other countries.

Lol... Bet you didn't know that you can be charged with a U.S. crime in another country did you? For example if you go to Thailand and have sex with a 12 year old, even if you aren't found guilty in Thailand, you can be brought back to the U.S. and be charged with being a pedophile.

But the U.S. laws are distinct from other countries, not sure why you are trying to compare us to them.