Ya’alon: “IDF Operations Save Lives

[Sally]

These guys were tougher than the IDF and they claimed to save lives (of the whites) , but in the end demographics ruled the day:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYL6aTK3k6Y

Why don't you come right out with it, montelatici, and tell us how you want to see Israel destroyed so that the Muslims will control the entire Middle East? After all, no one sees you on forums condemning what is happening in other Middle East countries where there is so much blood on the streets from innocent people being killed.

 

[Phoenall]

Eliminating the terrorist before they strke

Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon related this morning to the IDF operation in the refugee camp in Jenin, stating that it thwarted a planned terrorist attack against Israelis. “The Yamam fighters, Shabak and IDF during the night striking a group of Palestinian terrorists in a refugee camp in Jenin is important in order to prevent planned terrorist attacks that was said was going to be carried out against Israeli targets; this act saved lives,” the Israeli Defense Minister stated.

Ya’alon praised the “forces determined activity and their composed professionalism in fighting.” He also wished a speedy recovered to the two Israelis that were wounded in the fighting.

Terrorists Were Killed

During the Yamam and Shabak operations in a Palestinian refugee camp in Jenin, Israeli forces planned to arrest a suspect that was planning a terrorist attack targeting Israeli citizens and soldiers. A terrorist opened fire on the Israeli forces. He barricaded himself in one of the houses in the camp and continued to fire through the window.

The Yamam forces began to implement the pressure cooker procedure, during which a number of missiles were fired at the house. The fighters managed to kill the wanted terrorist and it was during this exchange of fire that two Israelis were lightly injured. Other Palestinian terrorists joined the exchange of gunfire, throwing Molotov cocktails and stones. Two others were killed and eight were slightly injured.

The dead terrorists' funeral in Jenin

Israel News - WATCH: Abu Mazen Condemns Israel for Killing Terrorists - JerusalemOnline

The problem is that everyone the IDF murders, is called a terrorist.

The 4 year old playing in his front yard and taken out with a drone strike, was a terrorist.

The 15 year old walking to school when struck, was a terrorist.

The kids playing soccer before they were hit with a missile, were all terrorists.

You people are fucked!

The 4 year old playing with the rocket launcher in his front yard

The 15 year old walking to terrorist school

The kids playing soccer with the head of an Israeli

Any comment on the other side of the coin. It is terrorist that were killed not civilians. It is the Palestinians that target children deliberately and not even you can deny that fact. Under the Geneva conventions as soon as a civilian takes up a military role they become militia, so the women and children acting as human shields then become military targets.

 

[Phoenall]

Then maybe...maybe the terrorists should stop hiding behind them.

Maybe Israel should stop targeting innocent civilians, you fuckin' moron!

They don't and you have not yet produced the evidence to support your far out whacked claims

 

[Phoenall]

only terrorist were killed here

That's what they always say.

And you have never proved conclusively that they weren't.

 

[Phoenall]

Where do you get this crap from??

Are you trying to make a fool of yourself?????

You are the one who is fucked. What a joke you are.

Now of course you can give examples of Israelis or their supporters calling 4 yeRs old terrorists??

Why yes I can!

According to the boots on the ground...

Testimony 7 – Rules of Engagement
"In urban warfare, anyone is your enemy. No innocents.”

"...(were given) permission to open fire” even at most people who “definitely (are) not terrorists.”

Formal briefings covered “going off to war (and in war) no consideration of civilians was to be taken. Shoot anyone you see"

So no, it ain't bullshit.

Hardly a truthful website now is it, and is very biased against the Jews and Israel. Even its source for this article was anti Jew and anti Israeli.
The plain and simple fact is your link is about as relevant and conclusive as a Palestinian saying this is what happened. No name given to corroborate the testimony, in fact the authors go out of their way to hide any means of identifying any of the soldiers involved.

As for the testimony did you do any military training and see action in a war zone, the commands given are the same as those given to any soldiers in such a situation. Too much time and money is spent training a soldier to have him shot by some terrorist, so they are told shoot to kill ask questions later. Like the British in N.I. who were told to aim directly at the crowds with baton rounds so the maximum amount of damage could be done, then the security people could pick them up at the hospital later getting treated for ruptured kidneys.

 

[Phoenall]

Even Ma'an conformed the three dead all partook in hostilities that day. Two were militants and one was throwing firebombs at the IDF.
More bullshit from Billo

Throwing fire bombs at the IDF is not terrorism, it's self defense.

You really are stupid aren't you, any incendiary device that is thrown is an illegal weapon and any one using them is deemed a terrorist. So it is not self defence at all if you read the Geneva conventions, it is TERRORISM that is acted on the world over in the same way. SHOOT TO KILL.

 

[Phoenall]

These guys were tougher than the IDF and they claimed to save lives (of the whites) , but in the end demographics ruled the day:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYL6aTK3k6Y

Demographics mean shit in the M.E. as the muslims have outnumbered the Jews since they invaded .

 

[Billo_Really]

Self-defense goes two ways

An occupational force cannot claim self defense.

 

[Billo_Really]

Holy crap! you did not come close to answering my question. Fail

When the IDF says they treat everyone as the enemy, you don't think that includes 4 year olds?

 

[Billo_Really]

Throwing firebombs at soldiers gets you killed

That maybe so, but it's not terrorism and their not terrorists.

 

[Billo_Really]

Why don't you come right out with it, montelatici, and tell us how you want to see Israel destroyed so that the Muslims will control the entire Middle East? After all, no one sees you on forums condemning what is happening in other Middle East countries where there is so much blood on the streets from innocent people being killed.

Again with the lame ass, off topic, hijacking rap!

 

[Billo_Really]

The 4 year old playing with the rocket launcher in his front yard

The 15 year old walking to terrorist school

The kids playing soccer with the head of an Israeli

Where's your proof that occurred?

Or is bullshit innuendo as far as you go?

Any comment on the other side of the coin. It is terrorist that were killed not civilians. It is the Palestinians that target children deliberately and not even you can deny that fact.

Yes, I can deny that fact. Their rockets are considered war crimes, because they're indiscriminant weapons. Which means they can't be targeted. Therefore, if you have a weapon you cannot target, then obviously, you cannot "target children", with that weapon.

The IDF, on the otherhand, "can" target their weapons and they do deliberately shoot at children.

Under the Geneva conventions as soon as a civilian takes up a military role they become militia, so the women and children acting as human shields then become military targets.

Does that include the IDF's use of "Johnnies"?

Testimony 1 – Human Shield

People are called “Johnnie. They’re Palestinian civilians” in Gaza neighborhoods. In checking out houses, “we send the neighbor in, the ‘Johnnie,’

Human shields were also used [for]...other services.

“Sometimes the force would enter while placing rifle barrels on a civilian’s shoulder, advancing into the house and using him as a human shield. Commanders said these were the instructions and we had to do it.”

Now, what was that about using "human shields", fuckhead?

 

[Billo_Really]

They don't and you have not yet produced the evidence to support your far out whacked claims

Yes I did. Post #14.

 

[Billo_Really]

And you have never proved conclusively that they weren't.

You haven't proved they were.

You made the claim. The burden of proof is on you.

 

[Billo_Really]

Hardly a truthful website now is it, and is very biased against the Jews and Israel.

It's Canadian and non-partisan. Ergo, non-biased.

Even its source for this article was anti Jew and anti Israeli.

The IDF is "anti-jew" and "anti-Israeli"?

I always love when you fuckers bring up the "jew-hating-jew"!

The plain and simple fact is your link is about as relevant and conclusive as a Palestinian saying this is what happened.

So you're saying a member of the IDF, is as credible as a Palestinian?

No name given to corroborate the testimony, in fact the authors go out of their way to hide any means of identifying any of the soldiers involved.

And why do you think that is?

As for the testimony did you do any military training and see action in a war zone, the commands given are the same as those given to any soldiers in such a situation. Too much time and money is spent training a soldier to have him shot by some terrorist, so they are told shoot to kill ask questions later. Like the British in N.I. who were told to aim directly at the crowds with baton rounds so the maximum amount of damage could be done, then the security people could pick them up at the hospital later getting treated for ruptured kidneys.

What a dumbass!

First you say it's bullshit, then prove everything I said was true!

 

[Billo_Really]

You really are stupid aren't you, any incendiary device that is thrown is an illegal weapon and any one using them is deemed a terrorist. So it is not self defence at all if you read the Geneva conventions, it is TERRORISM that is acted on the world over in the same way. SHOOT TO KILL.

An incendiary device is not necessarily illegal, unless, of coarse, it's white phosphorous.

And they weren't throwing "willie peet".

 

[Billo_Really]

The pro-Israeli argument is so sick, that they even consider a Holocaust victim "anti-jew".

Responses to this post, will bear this out.

Here's a Holocaust survivor condemning the occupation and Israel deliberately targeting innocent civilians.


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1NWucpa9Nc]Holocaust Survivor Protests Israeli Massacre in Gaza - 2009 - YouTube[/ame]


Israeli kiss-ass says what?

 

[Phoenall]

Self-defense goes two ways

An occupational force cannot claim self defense.

You mean the Israelis should be banned from using the Geneva conventions because you are a FILTHY ISLAMONAZI ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATING POS that wants to see the genocide of 12 million people and the destruction of Israel.

I hope your Jewish god sends a plague of cancer your way, one that is so invasive it cant be cured and you suffer for all the Jews you want to be murdered.

 

[Phoenall]

Throwing firebombs at soldiers gets you killed

That maybe so, but it's not terrorism and their not terrorists.

Under International Law it is terrorism, and they have been named as terrorists by the International community.

 

[Phoenall]

The 4 year old playing with the rocket launcher in his front yard

The 15 year old walking to terrorist school

The kids playing soccer with the head of an Israeli

Where's your proof that occurred?

Or is bullshit innuendo as far as you go?

Any comment on the other side of the coin. It is terrorist that were killed not civilians. It is the Palestinians that target children deliberately and not even you can deny that fact.

Yes, I can deny that fact. Their rockets are considered war crimes, because they're indiscriminant weapons. Which means they can't be targeted. Therefore, if you have a weapon you cannot target, then obviously, you cannot "target children", with that weapon.

The IDF, on the otherhand, "can" target their weapons and they do deliberately shoot at children.

Under the Geneva conventions as soon as a civilian takes up a military role they become militia, so the women and children acting as human shields then become military targets.

Does that include the IDF's use of "Johnnies"?

Testimony 1 – Human Shield

People are called “Johnnie. They’re Palestinian civilians” in Gaza neighborhoods. In checking out houses, “we send the neighbor in, the ‘Johnnie,’

Human shields were also used [for]...other services.

“Sometimes the force would enter while placing rifle barrels on a civilian’s shoulder, advancing into the house and using him as a human shield. Commanders said these were the instructions and we had to do it.”

Now, what was that about using "human shields", fuckhead?

Same place your proof is that the IDF target children.

The Palestinians have Iranian rockets that can be targeted and they send them at Schools, Kindergartens, playgrounds and anywhere else children might be.

I would not know, but looking at the source I very much doubt that it is real. But you being a pro terrorism anti semitic will believe anything that puts the Jews and Israel in a bad light.

Were is your proof from an unbiased source shit for brains, a pro Palestinian site is hardly unbiased