Write down! I am an Arab

[Roudy]

So a Palestinian animal breaking into a home in the middle of the night and massacring babies in their sleep by STABBING THEM TO DEATH, is considered a "legitimate" military target?

Yup, it's the Joooos fault.

You're ******* insane. But that seems to be a prerequisite to be a Pali terrorist loving convert that you are.

 

[amity1844]

When has such a thing happened?

 

[aris2chat]

I don't think it is an insult at all. It is a scupulously accurate term for what we oppose. We don't oppose Jews, we don't oppose Israelis. We DO oppose Zionists and Zionism.

That is probably why that term is used by Israel's opponents.

Hating Zionism is the same as Judaism.

If you oppose Zionism it means you reject the idea of Jews having a state, and therefor you reject the Jews, since the only way the Jews are to be able to survive is in Israel.

So yeah, that's the same thing.

Also, you must be a wicked one, I caught you red handed justifying the murder of the Fogels. So that counts, too

Lipush, I never heard of the Fogels.

Zionism is most certainly NOT the same thing as Judaism. And I doubt anyone reading your inane statement will be deceived. But just to be sure, I will start a new post specifically about all the anti-Zionism among Jews.

As far as I am concerned Jews are beyond welcome to a state as long as no other people is disposed. Problem is, the only unpopulated areas of the globe left are also near-uninhabitable.... I do agree that Palestine was once the Jews' ancestral home, 2000 years ago, it just simply wasn't available for immigration of millions of Jews. The people living there had rights, too, after all, even though it was hard for the late 19th/early 20th century colonialist mentality to remember that. Is what happened right? No, but it happened.

So, let's move on from the past and deal with the fact that there is a Jewish nation in Palestine, one of the very rare times in history where one population has actually displaced another. What to do next? Two states obviously. I like the one state binational solution, your mileage may vary. But there is no excuse for refusal to acknowledge the Palestinian right of return.

It was only three years ago they were brutally murdered in their sleep.

You obliviously have a computer, so read. Learn something from other posters about what you had not heard about. Try to understand where and why the opinions of others come from. Consider what you post from other's opinions, and how factual what you say really is.

 

[amity1844]

Who killed them? Was that ever discovered? or who took credit at least?

Were they settlers?

 

[Sally]

Who killed them? Was that ever discovered? or who took credit at least?

Were they settlers?

What next? Are you going to start accusing the settlers for the honor killings that your friends do?

 

[amity1844]

No, were the Fogels settlers? eg, Were they in Israel or in the West Bank?

 

[Sally]

No, were the Fogels settlers? eg, Were they in Israel or in the West Bank?

Have any settlers snuck into the homes of your sleeping friends and killed the parents and children? Do tell us all about it.

 

[amity1844]

Another lie. Two posts ago when the Fogels were mentioned, you said it was acceptable for Palestinian animals to butcher settler babies in their cribs. There seems to be more than one person posting from this Internet propaganda mouthpiece. LOL

Did Google and couldn't find any info. If these people are settlers, then yes, legit targets.

But I'm not happy they were killed.

On the other hand, look I'm not Palestinian, I can't grant any concessions. So let's do a thought experiment where I am a negotiator trying to work out an end to this type of attack. Watch that film of Gaza I posted, count the dead babies. Now tell me IF I can make any requests of the Palestinians to end attacks like that took the lives of the Fogel family, that don't involve ending those attacks on Gaza first.

3 Israeli babies v. 40 Palestinian babies?

What can I offer the Palestinians that will cause them to cease those type of attacks on legitimate targets?

So get used to those type of attacks.

 

[P F Tinmore]

No, were the Fogels settlers? eg, Were they in Israel or in the West Bank?

Have any settlers snuck into the homes of your sleeping friends and killed the parents and children? Do tell us all about it.

No, they just bomb the house.

Omar Misharawi, 11 months, of Gaza City, son of a BBC video and photo editor, killed in an IDF air strike on his family home.

Hanin Tafesh, 10 months, killed when the IDF bombarded her family home.

Fares Al-Basyouni, 9, of Beit Hanoun, killed when the IDF bombarded his family home.

Odai Jamal Nasser, 16, of Beit Hanoun, killed when the IDF bombarded his family home.

Tareq Jamal Nasser, 14, of Beit Hanoun, killed when the IDF bombarded his family home.

Tamer Abu Asaifan, 3, of Jabalya refugee camp, Gaza, killed in an IDF air strike on his family home.

Jumana Abu Asaifan, 1, of Jabalya refugee camp, Gaza, killed in an IDF air strike on her family home.

Ranin Mohammed Jamal Al-Dalou, 5, of Gaza City, one of four siblings killed in an Israeli missile strike on their family home.

Jamal Mohammed Jamal Al-Dalou, 7, of Gaza City, one of four siblings killed in an Israeli missile strike on their family home.

Yousef Mohammed Jamal Al-Dalou, 10, of Gaza City, one of four siblings killed in an Israeli missile strike on their family home.

Ibrahim Mohammed Jamal Al-Dalou, 1, of Gaza City, one of four siblings killed in an Israeli missile strike on their family home.

Hussein Jalal Nasser, 6, of northern Gaza, killed in an Israeli air strike on his family home.

Najeeb Ahmed Najeeb, 1, of the Qalandiya refugee camp, died of serious burns he suffered when Israeli troops fired a gas grenade into his family home.

Omar Mahmoud Mohammed al-Astal, 14, of Al-Qarara, in southern Gaza, killed in an Israeli attack on his family farm.

Suhaib Hijazi, 4, of Beit Lahiya, killed along with his twin brother and their parents in an Israeli airstrike on their family home.

Muhammad Hijazi, 4, of Beit Lahiya, killed along with his twin brother and their parents in an Israeli airstrike on their family home.

Ahmad Tawfiq al-Nasasra, 17, of Rafah, killed along with his brother in an Israeli airstrike on their family home.

Muhammad al-Nasasra, 15, of Rafah, killed along with his brother in an Israeli airstrike on their family home.

Ayman Talal Al-Assaly, 17, of Gaza City, killed along with his father and sister in an Israeli missile strike on their family home.

Riham Al-Nabaheen, 4, of Nusseirat refugee camp in central Gaza, killed in an Israeli attack on her home.

Remember These Children 2012 Memorial

That is so much more civilized.

 

[Sally]

No, were the Fogels settlers? eg, Were they in Israel or in the West Bank?

Have any settlers snuck into the homes of your sleeping friends and killed the parents and children? Do tell us all about it.

No, they just bomb the house.

Omar Misharawi, 11 months, of Gaza City, son of a BBC video and photo editor, killed in an IDF air strike on his family home.

Hanin Tafesh, 10 months, killed when the IDF bombarded her family home.

Fares Al-Basyouni, 9, of Beit Hanoun, killed when the IDF bombarded his family home.

Odai Jamal Nasser, 16, of Beit Hanoun, killed when the IDF bombarded his family home.

Tareq Jamal Nasser, 14, of Beit Hanoun, killed when the IDF bombarded his family home.

Tamer Abu Asaifan, 3, of Jabalya refugee camp, Gaza, killed in an IDF air strike on his family home.

Jumana Abu Asaifan, 1, of Jabalya refugee camp, Gaza, killed in an IDF air strike on her family home.

Ranin Mohammed Jamal Al-Dalou, 5, of Gaza City, one of four siblings killed in an Israeli missile strike on their family home.

Jamal Mohammed Jamal Al-Dalou, 7, of Gaza City, one of four siblings killed in an Israeli missile strike on their family home.

Yousef Mohammed Jamal Al-Dalou, 10, of Gaza City, one of four siblings killed in an Israeli missile strike on their family home.

Ibrahim Mohammed Jamal Al-Dalou, 1, of Gaza City, one of four siblings killed in an Israeli missile strike on their family home.

Hussein Jalal Nasser, 6, of northern Gaza, killed in an Israeli air strike on his family home.

Najeeb Ahmed Najeeb, 1, of the Qalandiya refugee camp, died of serious burns he suffered when Israeli troops fired a gas grenade into his family home.

Omar Mahmoud Mohammed al-Astal, 14, of Al-Qarara, in southern Gaza, killed in an Israeli attack on his family farm.

Suhaib Hijazi, 4, of Beit Lahiya, killed along with his twin brother and their parents in an Israeli airstrike on their family home.

Muhammad Hijazi, 4, of Beit Lahiya, killed along with his twin brother and their parents in an Israeli airstrike on their family home.

Ahmad Tawfiq al-Nasasra, 17, of Rafah, killed along with his brother in an Israeli airstrike on their family home.

Muhammad al-Nasasra, 15, of Rafah, killed along with his brother in an Israeli airstrike on their family home.

Ayman Talal Al-Assaly, 17, of Gaza City, killed along with his father and sister in an Israeli missile strike on their family home.

Riham Al-Nabaheen, 4, of Nusseirat refugee camp in central Gaza, killed in an Israeli attack on her home.

Remember These Children 2012 Memorial

That is so much more civilized.

Now surely Mr. Tinmore is going to give us some of the names of the innocent Syrian children, both Muslims and Christian, who were killed. I am not going to ask him to list the approximately 10,000 children's names, but a few hundred will do. Surely there is some organiation keeping track of this also, Mr. Tinmore, not only in Syria, but Iraq and the rest of the Muslim world, or do they only keep track when the Jews are involved? As for calling someone cuckoo, I say look in the mirror, Mr. Hamas Representative.

 

[Lipush]

I don't think it is an insult at all. It is a scupulously accurate term for what we oppose. We don't oppose Jews, we don't oppose Israelis. We DO oppose Zionists and Zionism.

That is probably why that term is used by Israel's opponents.

Hating Zionism is the same as Judaism.

If you oppose Zionism it means you reject the idea of Jews having a state, and therefor you reject the Jews, since the only way the Jews are to be able to survive is in Israel.

So yeah, that's the same thing.

Also, you must be a wicked one, I caught you red handed justifying the murder of the Fogels. So that counts, too

Lipush, I never heard of the Fogels. .

Are you senile?

If that's the case, I'll be more patient with you.

We just talked about them yesterday, when you said their killing was justified.

 

[Lipush]

never said that at all, liar.

I said that the illegal settlements in occupied territory are a legitimate military target, and that the babies shouldn't be there in the first place. If they remain they are likely to wind up as "collateral damage." So their parents, overzealous to the point of not even caring for the safety of their kids, need to get them out of there.

So you said that it's ok to kill babies.

Hadas Fogel and her 2 siblings were settlers.

If you say settlers are legitimate targets, you say they're legitimate targets.

No way around it.

It happenes that Hadas Fogel was a 3 months old legitimate taget, and her brother El'ad was a 4 year old legitimate target and her brother Yo'av was 11 year old legitimate target.

If you say you think those babies didn't deserve to die, then you say settlers are NOT legitimate targets.

Which you didn't. The other way around that is.

So, you ready to take that statement back? because we all know what that statement was. Roudy doesn't take your crap more than I do.

Still have the change to take that stupid statement back.

We won't tell...much.

 

[aris2chat]

Another lie. Two posts ago when the Fogels were mentioned, you said it was acceptable for Palestinian animals to butcher settler babies in their cribs. There seems to be more than one person posting from this Internet propaganda mouthpiece. LOL

Did Google and couldn't find any info. If these people are settlers, then yes, legit targets.

But I'm not happy they were killed.

On the other hand, look I'm not Palestinian, I can't grant any concessions. So let's do a thought experiment where I am a negotiator trying to work out an end to this type of attack. Watch that film of Gaza I posted, count the dead babies. Now tell me IF I can make any requests of the Palestinians to end attacks like that took the lives of the Fogel family, that don't involve ending those attacks on Gaza first.

3 Israeli babies v. 40 Palestinian babies?

What can I offer the Palestinians that will cause them to cease those type of attacks on legitimate targets?

So get used to those type of attacks.

Stop saying you did a search. You did not even bother to type the name or you would have found at least 477,000 results. Instead of thinking you know it all ask or learn at the library how to construct a search.
There is not reason for palestinians to enter and kill the parents, two children and an infant in their beds. Slashed the throat of one, strangled and stabbed another, stabbed the parents and decapitated the infant. How in the name of anything can that be justified?

 

[amity1844]

Because they're settlers.

The few sources I found were eulogies and emotionally charged stuff, so I rapidly gave up trying to ascertain facts.

 

[toastman]

Because they're settlers.

The few sources I found were eulogies and emotionally charged stuff, so I rapidly gave up trying to ascertain facts.

Non combatabts are NOT legit targets you sick evil demented Muslim.

Where's your link that says all settlers are legit targets???

 

[P F Tinmore]

Because they're settlers.

The few sources I found were eulogies and emotionally charged stuff, so I rapidly gave up trying to ascertain facts.

The main question was about the settlers: Are they civilians or not? According to the Geneva Accord they are not. Even according to the Israelis they are not.

In 2003 we went to Cairo. The Egyptians asked whether Hamas is ready to stop the martyrdom operations or not. We gave the Egyptians a better offer. We were ready to have an agreement to stop targeting civilians [on] both sides. The army is supposed to fight, but civilians should be out of it. The Egyptians agreed and passed it on to the Israelis.

Ariel Sharon sent Efraim Halevi, who was the head of Shin Bet at the time. The Egyptians, who were the mediators, negotiated with Halevi. When we reached the definition of civilians, we accepted the definition put forward by the Geneva Accord. The Israelis were surprised, as they did not expect that. We said that the settlers are not civilians and the answer was, yes, they are not.

Halevi went back to Israel, but Sharon rejected the proposal.

A Dialogue with Hamas - Part 1 - Worldpress.org

 

[Sally]

Because they're settlers.

The few sources I found were eulogies and emotionally charged stuff, so I rapidly gave up trying to ascertain facts.

The main question was about the settlers: Are they civilians or not? According to the Geneva Accord they are not. Even according to the Israelis they are not.

In 2003 we went to Cairo. The Egyptians asked whether Hamas is ready to stop the martyrdom operations or not. We gave the Egyptians a better offer. We were ready to have an agreement to stop targeting civilians [on] both sides. The army is supposed to fight, but civilians should be out of it. The Egyptians agreed and passed it on to the Israelis.

Ariel Sharon sent Efraim Halevi, who was the head of Shin Bet at the time. The Egyptians, who were the mediators, negotiated with Halevi. When we reached the definition of civilians, we accepted the definition put forward by the Geneva Accord. The Israelis were surprised, as they did not expect that. We said that the settlers are not civilians and the answer was, yes, they are not.

Halevi went back to Israel, but Sharon rejected the proposal.

A Dialogue with Hamas - Part 1 - Worldpress.org

Mr. Tinmore is showing his bloodlust also. Sad, so sad, how they can justify sneaking into a residence and slaughtering the occupants.

 

[amity1844]

Because they're settlers.

The few sources I found were eulogies and emotionally charged stuff, so I rapidly gave up trying to ascertain facts.

The main question was about the settlers: Are they civilians or not? According to the Geneva Accord they are not. Even according to the Israelis they are not.

In 2003 we went to Cairo. The Egyptians asked whether Hamas is ready to stop the martyrdom operations or not. We gave the Egyptians a better offer. We were ready to have an agreement to stop targeting civilians [on] both sides. The army is supposed to fight, but civilians should be out of it. The Egyptians agreed and passed it on to the Israelis.

Ariel Sharon sent Efraim Halevi, who was the head of Shin Bet at the time. The Egyptians, who were the mediators, negotiated with Halevi. When we reached the definition of civilians, we accepted the definition put forward by the Geneva Accord. The Israelis were surprised, as they did not expect that. We said that the settlers are not civilians and the answer was, yes, they are not.

Halevi went back to Israel, but Sharon rejected the proposal.

A Dialogue with Hamas - Part 1 - Worldpress.org

I am blown away. Thanks for this. It shows that straying off-topic and chasing rabbits is sometimes quite productive.

 

[amity1844]

Sad, so sad, how they can justify sneaking into a residence and slaughtering the occupants.

I don't know, Sally.

How in heck DO YOU justify sneaking in and slaughtering occupants?

 

[aris2chat]

Because they're settlers.

The few sources I found were eulogies and emotionally charged stuff, so I rapidly gave up trying to ascertain facts.

The main question was about the settlers: Are they civilians or not? According to the Geneva Accord they are not. Even according to the Israelis they are not.

In 2003 we went to Cairo. The Egyptians asked whether Hamas is ready to stop the martyrdom operations or not. We gave the Egyptians a better offer. We were ready to have an agreement to stop targeting civilians [on] both sides. The army is supposed to fight, but civilians should be out of it. The Egyptians agreed and passed it on to the Israelis.

Ariel Sharon sent Efraim Halevi, who was the head of Shin Bet at the time. The Egyptians, who were the mediators, negotiated with Halevi. When we reached the definition of civilians, we accepted the definition put forward by the Geneva Accord. The Israelis were surprised, as they did not expect that. We said that the settlers are not civilians and the answer was, yes, they are not.

Halevi went back to Israel, but Sharon rejected the proposal.

A Dialogue with Hamas - Part 1 - Worldpress.org

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