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[amity1844]

They'll likely condemn the murders of the next 58 families who die, too. That doesn't mean it won't happen every chance.

 

[MHunterB]

All I see there is HAMAS propaganda: that isn't a ruling from the UN, it's the *HAMAS mouthpiece* spouting HAMAS propaganda at a 'journalist'......Hardly authoritative except to show that HAMAS views every Israeli 'settler' as a target.

It has nothing to do with any objective reality.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Because they're settlers.

The few sources I found were eulogies and emotionally charged stuff, so I rapidly gave up trying to ascertain facts.

The main question was about the settlers: Are they civilians or not? According to the Geneva Accord they are not. Even according to the Israelis they are not.

In 2003 we went to Cairo. The Egyptians asked whether Hamas is ready to stop the martyrdom operations or not. We gave the Egyptians a better offer. We were ready to have an agreement to stop targeting civilians [on] both sides. The army is supposed to fight, but civilians should be out of it. The Egyptians agreed and passed it on to the Israelis.

Ariel Sharon sent Efraim Halevi, who was the head of Shin Bet at the time. The Egyptians, who were the mediators, negotiated with Halevi. When we reached the definition of civilians, we accepted the definition put forward by the Geneva Accord. The Israelis were surprised, as they did not expect that. We said that the settlers are not civilians and the answer was, yes, they are not.

Halevi went back to Israel, but Sharon rejected the proposal.

A Dialogue with Hamas - Part 1 - Worldpress.org

UN Chief condemns murder of West Bank Israeli family | VANCOUVERITE

What has that clown, Moon, ever said about all of the children killed by Israel?

 

[Sally]

The main question was about the settlers: Are they civilians or not? According to the Geneva Accord they are not. Even according to the Israelis they are not.

In 2003 we went to Cairo. The Egyptians asked whether Hamas is ready to stop the martyrdom operations or not. We gave the Egyptians a better offer. We were ready to have an agreement to stop targeting civilians [on] both sides. The army is supposed to fight, but civilians should be out of it. The Egyptians agreed and passed it on to the Israelis.

Ariel Sharon sent Efraim Halevi, who was the head of Shin Bet at the time. The Egyptians, who were the mediators, negotiated with Halevi. When we reached the definition of civilians, we accepted the definition put forward by the Geneva Accord. The Israelis were surprised, as they did not expect that. We said that the settlers are not civilians and the answer was, yes, they are not.

Halevi went back to Israel, but Sharon rejected the proposal.

A Dialogue with Hamas - Part 1 - Worldpress.org

UN Chief condemns murder of West Bank Israeli family | VANCOUVERITE

What has that clown, Moon, ever said about all of the children killed by Israel?

Has he said anything about the thousands of children killed in the Middle East? You seem to be knowledgeable about him if you are calling him a clown.

 

[P F Tinmore]

UN Chief condemns murder of West Bank Israeli family | VANCOUVERITE

What has that clown, Moon, ever said about all of the children killed by Israel?

Has he said anything about the thousands of children killed in the Middle East? You seem to be knowledgeable about him if you are calling him a clown.

What good has the UN accomplished under his watch?

 

[Sally]

What has that clown, Moon, ever said about all of the children killed by Israel?

Has he said anything about the thousands of children killed in the Middle East? You seem to be knowledgeable about him if you are calling him a clown.

What good has the UN accomplished under his watch?

What good has the UN done with so many Muslim countries as members and so many of the other countries afraid to speak up because they don't want to take any chance of losing oil deliveries from the oil-rich Muslim countries.

 

[Lipush]

Because they're settlers.

The few sources I found were eulogies and emotionally charged stuff, so I rapidly gave up trying to ascertain facts.

Ok, so...considering what you said, and considering the fact that you praised Tinmore's speech about hurting settlers (which includes months old settlers, but who cares, settlers are settlers, right?) you do justify killing babies. You may think you're not, but the evidence point otherwise in every developing post of yours.

Glad we covered that one.

I have no problem, that is your opinion, and you're free to express it.

Although, I'll ask for a tiny thing, if you don't mind.

As long as you say it's ok to kill babies, please don't say nonsense like "my purpose here is to help Zionists grow a conscience".

It sounds....not good, considering your opinions about killing babies.


Thanks. Glad we had that conversation

 

[amity1844]

Because they're settlers.

The few sources I found were eulogies and emotionally charged stuff, so I rapidly gave up trying to ascertain facts.

Ok, so...considering what you said, and considering the fact that you praised Tinmore's speech about hurting settlers (which includes months old settlers, but who cares, settlers are settlers, right?) you do justify killing babies. You may think you're not, but the evidence point otherwise in every developing post of yours.

Glad we covered that one.

I have no problem, that is your opinion, and you're free to express it.

Although, I'll ask for a tiny thing, if you don't mind.

As long as you say it's ok to kill babies, please don't say nonsense like "my purpose here is to help Zionists grow a conscience".

It sounds....not good, considering your opinions about killing babies.


Thanks. Glad we had that conversation

No one is going to forswear operations against illegal settlers while Zionists are killing babies and literally not caring. In everything you have said here trying to get me to condemn the killing of specifically Jewish babies without even mentioning the very many more Palestinian babies that are dying, you are still not assuming responsibility for taking innocent children to the front lines and in effect trying to use them as human shields by saying "we have babies here! You shouldn't attack us!"

So again, it sounds like racism and lack of regard for human life that isn't Jewish, and NO, I am not going to try to persuade anybody not to attack the settlements.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Because they're settlers.

The few sources I found were eulogies and emotionally charged stuff, so I rapidly gave up trying to ascertain facts.

Ok, so...considering what you said, and considering the fact that you praised Tinmore's speech about hurting settlers (which includes months old settlers, but who cares, settlers are settlers, right?) you do justify killing babies. You may think you're not, but the evidence point otherwise in every developing post of yours.

Glad we covered that one.

I have no problem, that is your opinion, and you're free to express it.

Although, I'll ask for a tiny thing, if you don't mind.

As long as you say it's ok to kill babies, please don't say nonsense like "my purpose here is to help Zionists grow a conscience".

It sounds....not good, considering your opinions about killing babies.


Thanks. Glad we had that conversation

Children are the responsibility of the parents. They should not raise children in a war zone.

 

[Lipush]

I never said I believe Palestinian deaths are justified,a mity.

You said you believe Israeli babies' death are justified.

I may not always protest loudly on our policies, that might be true, but I at least have the morale code to not think babies killed on ANY side is a good thing.

Can I say the same for you?

Apparently...not.

 

[Lipush]

Because they're settlers.

The few sources I found were eulogies and emotionally charged stuff, so I rapidly gave up trying to ascertain facts.

Ok, so...considering what you said, and considering the fact that you praised Tinmore's speech about hurting settlers (which includes months old settlers, but who cares, settlers are settlers, right?) you do justify killing babies. You may think you're not, but the evidence point otherwise in every developing post of yours.

Glad we covered that one.

I have no problem, that is your opinion, and you're free to express it.

Although, I'll ask for a tiny thing, if you don't mind.

As long as you say it's ok to kill babies, please don't say nonsense like "my purpose here is to help Zionists grow a conscience".

It sounds....not good, considering your opinions about killing babies.


Thanks. Glad we had that conversation

Children are the responsibility of the parents. They should not raise children in a war zone.

So I take it it's illegal to raise children in Gaza, and Ukraine and Syria, and Baghdad.

Because, war zone and all.

Are you living in lala-land? Becuase only someone so out of reality could say such a silly thing.

 

[amity1844]

I never said I believe Palestinian deaths are justified,a mity.

You said you believe Israeli babies' death are justified.

I may not always protest loudly on our policies, that might be true, but I at least have the morale code to not think babies killed on ANY side is a good thing.

Can I say the same for you?

Apparently...not.

I said SETTLERS are a legitimate target. If babies are killed I will feel sad. The fact that they are in occupied territory through no fault of their own is illegal, and international law allows illegal settlements to be targeted. But their parents will hopefully have the sound moral judgment to get them out of there before that happens.

What is NOT a legitimate target is the civilian population of Gaza. There is NO justification for operations against them. Those operations are illegal, the parents are unable to remove their children from the danger, and if children are killed, they have been cold-bloodedly murdered by Israel pure and simple.

That is the way the situation stands under international law.

Now the human dimension gives me the insight that if you will agree to cease military operations against the people of the occupied territories they MAY agree to a moratorium on violence. But ultimately you are going to have to remove your asses from the OT and allow the Palestinian people room to create a space to live on the face of the earth, or else they will ALWAYS go back to attacking whoever they can catch rather than go peacefully to their death as a people. Its that simple.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Ok, so...considering what you said, and considering the fact that you praised Tinmore's speech about hurting settlers (which includes months old settlers, but who cares, settlers are settlers, right?) you do justify killing babies. You may think you're not, but the evidence point otherwise in every developing post of yours.

Glad we covered that one.

I have no problem, that is your opinion, and you're free to express it.

Although, I'll ask for a tiny thing, if you don't mind.

As long as you say it's ok to kill babies, please don't say nonsense like "my purpose here is to help Zionists grow a conscience".

It sounds....not good, considering your opinions about killing babies.


Thanks. Glad we had that conversation

Children are the responsibility of the parents. They should not raise children in a war zone.

So I take it it's illegal to raise children in Gaza, and Ukraine and Syria, and Baghdad.

Because, war zone and all.

Are you living in lala-land? Becuase only someone so out of reality could say such a silly thing.

Those are Palestinian's home territories. They are Israel's war zones.