Would you be willing to accept this Second Amendment compromise?

[danielpalos]

Only well regulated militias of the People are declared necessary to the security of a free State, not the People who are the non-well regulated militia of the People.

So produce the documentation I asked for yesterday. It should be an easy thing for you.

Here it is, for your ease and convenience:

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

10 U.S. Code § 311 - Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) The classes of the militia are—

(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

A well regulated militia must be an organized militia that musters, to prove it.

Militias are cool. Of course they in no way restrict the right to keep and bear arms.

Of course they do; Ask the South. Only well regulated militias of the United States many not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union

Of course they do

If only you had 2nd Amendment backup for your feeling.

dear, if only you had valid strings of words instead of just feelings to back up your arguments; why did Persons of the South not simply claim they have a Second Amendment right to keep and bear Arms, when the North came to deny and disparage them in their keeping and bearing of Arms.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

So produce the documentation I asked for yesterday. It should be an easy thing for you.

Here it is, for your ease and convenience:

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

10 U.S. Code § 311 - Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) The classes of the militia are—

(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

A well regulated militia must be an organized militia that musters, to prove it.

Militias are cool. Of course they in no way restrict the right to keep and bear arms.

Of course they do

You are outvoted by the Constitution, the SCOTUS, all fifty states, 300,000,000+ firearms in the hands of 100,000,000+ citizens, and history.

Go and grovel happily in your fantasy.

Which fantasy is that?

acquire and possess, simple possession, is secured in State Constitutions with that terminology.

Keep and bear is not the same as simple possession; for Anyone. Only well regulated militias of the United States may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

Individual felons of the People are being denied and disparaged, simple possession of Arms, every day.

That is your MISunderstanding of what the Second Amendment says.

 

[danielpalos]

Here it is, for your ease and convenience:

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

10 U.S. Code § 311 - Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) The classes of the militia are—

(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

A well regulated militia must be an organized militia that musters, to prove it.

Militias are cool. Of course they in no way restrict the right to keep and bear arms.

Of course they do

You are outvoted by the Constitution, the SCOTUS, all fifty states, 300,000,000+ firearms in the hands of 100,000,000+ citizens, and history.

Go and grovel happily in your fantasy.

Which fantasy is that?

acquire and possess, simple possession, is secured in State Constitutions with that terminology.

Keep and bear is not the same as simple possession; for Anyone. Only well regulated militias of the United States may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

Individual felons of the People are being denied and disparaged, simple possession of Arms, every day.

That is your MISunderstanding of what the Second Amendment says.

dear, simply claiming that is an appeal to ignorance and that form of incompetence without any sound line of reasoning to back it up.

Keep and bear is not the same as simple possession; for Anyone. Only well regulated militias of the United States may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So produce the documentation I asked for yesterday. It should be an easy thing for you.

Here it is, for your ease and convenience:

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

10 U.S. Code § 311 - Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) The classes of the militia are—

(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

A well regulated militia must be an organized militia that musters, to prove it.

Militias are cool. Of course they in no way restrict the right to keep and bear arms.

Of course they do; Ask the South. Only well regulated militias of the United States many not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union

Of course they do

If only you had 2nd Amendment backup for your feeling.

dear, if only you had valid strings of words instead of just feelings to back up your arguments; why did Persons of the South not simply claim they have a Second Amendment right to keep and bear Arms, when the North came to deny and disparage them in their keeping and bearing of Arms.

why did Persons of the South not simply claim they have a Second Amendment right to keep and bear Arms,

They did have a Second Amendment right, so do I. Having nothing to do with membership in a militia.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Militias are cool. Of course they in no way restrict the right to keep and bear arms.

Of course they do

You are outvoted by the Constitution, the SCOTUS, all fifty states, 300,000,000+ firearms in the hands of 100,000,000+ citizens, and history.

Go and grovel happily in your fantasy.

Which fantasy is that?

acquire and possess, simple possession, is secured in State Constitutions with that terminology.

Keep and bear is not the same as simple possession; for Anyone. Only well regulated militias of the United States may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

Individual felons of the People are being denied and disparaged, simple possession of Arms, every day.

That is your MISunderstanding of what the Second Amendment says.

dear, simply claiming that is an appeal to ignorance and that form of incompetence without any sound line of reasoning to back it up.

Keep and bear is not the same as simple possession; for Anyone. Only well regulated militias of the United States may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

Wrong. YOUR entire argument is an appeal FROM your abundant ignorance.

There is the RIGHT which predates the Constitution itself. Then there is the Constitutional guarantee of that right which was phrased in a not entirely clear way.

YOU and your ilk INSIST that the prefatory phrase subsumes the entire right. It simply does not.

You are historically, linguistically, logically, legally and intentionally wrong.

Caloric intake being necessary to sustain life, the RIGHT of the People to eat shall not be infringed. According to your would-be logic, any food that isn't required to sustain life is not a food which we have right we have to consume.

But the RIGHT is to eat, not a limited right to eat only food that YOU and your dopey ilk deem caloric-ly important for us. Take your nanny state mentality and shove it up your ass.

 

[danielpalos]

Here it is, for your ease and convenience:

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

10 U.S. Code § 311 - Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) The classes of the militia are—

(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

A well regulated militia must be an organized militia that musters, to prove it.

Militias are cool. Of course they in no way restrict the right to keep and bear arms.

Of course they do

You are outvoted by the Constitution, the SCOTUS, all fifty states, 300,000,000+ firearms in the hands of 100,000,000+ citizens, and history.

Go and grovel happily in your fantasy.

Which fantasy is that?

acquire and possess, simple possession, is secured in State Constitutions with that terminology.

Keep and bear is not the same as simple possession; for Anyone. Only well regulated militias of the United States may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

Individual felons of the People are being denied and disparaged, simple possession of Arms, every day.

That is your MISunderstanding of what the Second Amendment says.

not at all; i have no "misunderstanding" of what our Second Article of Amendment says; unlike those of the opposing view.

 

[danielpalos]

Here it is, for your ease and convenience:

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

10 U.S. Code § 311 - Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) The classes of the militia are—

(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

A well regulated militia must be an organized militia that musters, to prove it.

Militias are cool. Of course they in no way restrict the right to keep and bear arms.

Of course they do; Ask the South. Only well regulated militias of the United States many not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union

Of course they do

If only you had 2nd Amendment backup for your feeling.

dear, if only you had valid strings of words instead of just feelings to back up your arguments; why did Persons of the South not simply claim they have a Second Amendment right to keep and bear Arms, when the North came to deny and disparage them in their keeping and bearing of Arms.

why did Persons of the South not simply claim they have a Second Amendment right to keep and bear Arms,

They did have a Second Amendment right, so do I. Having nothing to do with membership in a militia.

yet, both may be Infringed as was proved by Persons in the entire South; regardless of militia service.

 

[danielpalos]

Of course they do

You are outvoted by the Constitution, the SCOTUS, all fifty states, 300,000,000+ firearms in the hands of 100,000,000+ citizens, and history.

Go and grovel happily in your fantasy.

Which fantasy is that?

acquire and possess, simple possession, is secured in State Constitutions with that terminology.

Keep and bear is not the same as simple possession; for Anyone. Only well regulated militias of the United States may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

Individual felons of the People are being denied and disparaged, simple possession of Arms, every day.

That is your MISunderstanding of what the Second Amendment says.

dear, simply claiming that is an appeal to ignorance and that form of incompetence without any sound line of reasoning to back it up.

Keep and bear is not the same as simple possession; for Anyone. Only well regulated militias of the United States may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

Wrong. YOUR entire argument is an appeal FROM your abundant ignorance.

There is the RIGHT which predates the Constitution itself. Then there is the Constitutional guarantee of that right which was phrased in a not entirely clear way.

YOU and your ilk INSIST that the prefatory phrase subsumes the entire right. It simply does not.

You are historically, linguistically, logically, legally and intentionally wrong.

Caloric intake being necessary to sustain life, the RIGHT of the People to eat shall not be infringed. According to your would-be logic, any food that isn't required to sustain life is not a food which we have right we have to consume.

But the RIGHT is to eat, not a limited right to eat only food that YOU and your dopey ilk deem caloric-ly important for us. Take your nanny state mentality and shove it up your ass.

dear; there is no appeal to ignorance of any written law; unless it is un-Constitutional. Those of your point of view are simply too incompetent to understand the difference.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Militias are cool. Of course they in no way restrict the right to keep and bear arms.

Of course they do

You are outvoted by the Constitution, the SCOTUS, all fifty states, 300,000,000+ firearms in the hands of 100,000,000+ citizens, and history.

Go and grovel happily in your fantasy.

Which fantasy is that?

acquire and possess, simple possession, is secured in State Constitutions with that terminology.

Keep and bear is not the same as simple possession; for Anyone. Only well regulated militias of the United States may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

Individual felons of the People are being denied and disparaged, simple possession of Arms, every day.

That is your MISunderstanding of what the Second Amendment says.

not at all; i have no "misunderstanding" of what our Second Article of Amendment says; unlike those of the opposing view.

Except that yes, you do.

And you remain flatly wrong, you hack.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

You are outvoted by the Constitution, the SCOTUS, all fifty states, 300,000,000+ firearms in the hands of 100,000,000+ citizens, and history.

Go and grovel happily in your fantasy.

Which fantasy is that?

acquire and possess, simple possession, is secured in State Constitutions with that terminology.

Keep and bear is not the same as simple possession; for Anyone. Only well regulated militias of the United States may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

Individual felons of the People are being denied and disparaged, simple possession of Arms, every day.

That is your MISunderstanding of what the Second Amendment says.

dear, simply claiming that is an appeal to ignorance and that form of incompetence without any sound line of reasoning to back it up.

Keep and bear is not the same as simple possession; for Anyone. Only well regulated militias of the United States may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

Wrong. YOUR entire argument is an appeal FROM your abundant ignorance.

There is the RIGHT which predates the Constitution itself. Then there is the Constitutional guarantee of that right which was phrased in a not entirely clear way.

YOU and your ilk INSIST that the prefatory phrase subsumes the entire right. It simply does not.

You are historically, linguistically, logically, legally and intentionally wrong.

Caloric intake being necessary to sustain life, the RIGHT of the People to eat shall not be infringed. According to your would-be logic, any food that isn't required to sustain life is not a food which we have right we have to consume.

But the RIGHT is to eat, not a limited right to eat only food that YOU and your dopey ilk deem caloric-ly important for us. Take your nanny state mentality and shove it up your ass.

dear; there is no appeal to ignorance of any written law; unless it is un-Constitutional. Those of your point of view are simply too incompetent to understand the difference.

The AMENDMENT is not a bit of legislation, you dolt. It is the framework with which the law must comply.

Do try to get caught up.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

And daniel-pos, don't call me "dear." I am not dear to you and vice versa.

You are just a plodding lolberal hack bitch with an appallingly ignorant misapprehension of what this Republic's Constitution actually says and means.. Nothing more.

 

[danielpalos]

And daniel-pos, don't call me "dear." I am not dear to you and vice versa.

You are just a plodding lolberal hack bitch with an appallingly ignorant misapprehension of what this Republic's Constitution actually says and means.. Nothing more.

wrong about what, dear? are you always so special and so slow, even molasses is faster than you.

you have nothing but fallacy that form of rejection and repeal, instead of valid arguments and solutions.

 

[ChrisL]

And daniel-pos, don't call me "dear." I am not dear to you and vice versa.

You are just a plodding lolberal hack bitch with an appallingly ignorant misapprehension of what this Republic's Constitution actually says and means.. Nothing more.

wrong about what, dear? are you always so special and so slow, even molasses is faster than you.

you have nothing but fallacy that form of rejection and repeal, instead of valid arguments and solutions.

Everyone is still waiting for you to come up with any kind of argument. None of your posts make sense, sadly.

 

[ChrisL]

Militias are cool. Of course they in no way restrict the right to keep and bear arms.

Of course they do

You are outvoted by the Constitution, the SCOTUS, all fifty states, 300,000,000+ firearms in the hands of 100,000,000+ citizens, and history.

Go and grovel happily in your fantasy.

Which fantasy is that?

acquire and possess, simple possession, is secured in State Constitutions with that terminology.

Keep and bear is not the same as simple possession; for Anyone. Only well regulated militias of the United States may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

Individual felons of the People are being denied and disparaged, simple possession of Arms, every day.

That is your MISunderstanding of what the Second Amendment says.

dear, simply claiming that is an appeal to ignorance and that form of incompetence without any sound line of reasoning to back it up.

Keep and bear is not the same as simple possession; for Anyone. Only well regulated militias of the United States may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

Why do you call other men "dear?" Are you gay?

 

[danielpalos]

And daniel-pos, don't call me "dear." I am not dear to you and vice versa.

You are just a plodding lolberal hack bitch with an appallingly ignorant misapprehension of what this Republic's Constitution actually says and means.. Nothing more.

wrong about what, dear? are you always so special and so slow, even molasses is faster than you.

you have nothing but fallacy that form of rejection and repeal, instead of valid arguments and solutions.

Everyone is still waiting for you to come up with any kind of argument. None of your posts make sense, sadly.

i already have dear; only the clueless and the Causeless claim what you do.

 

[danielpalos]

Of course they do

You are outvoted by the Constitution, the SCOTUS, all fifty states, 300,000,000+ firearms in the hands of 100,000,000+ citizens, and history.

Go and grovel happily in your fantasy.

Which fantasy is that?

acquire and possess, simple possession, is secured in State Constitutions with that terminology.

Keep and bear is not the same as simple possession; for Anyone. Only well regulated militias of the United States may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

Individual felons of the People are being denied and disparaged, simple possession of Arms, every day.

That is your MISunderstanding of what the Second Amendment says.

dear, simply claiming that is an appeal to ignorance and that form of incompetence without any sound line of reasoning to back it up.

Keep and bear is not the same as simple possession; for Anyone. Only well regulated militias of the United States may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

Why do you call other men "dear?" Are you gay?

Your problem is your cute pics in your gallery are simply not hot enough nor pornographic enough for me to want to play your silly games, chic. Trics are for kids, dear.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

And daniel-pos, don't call me "dear." I am not dear to you and vice versa.

You are just a plodding lolberal hack bitch with an appallingly ignorant misapprehension of what this Republic's Constitution actually says and means.. Nothing more.

wrong about what, dear? are you always so special and so slow, even molasses is faster than you.

you have nothing but fallacy that form of rejection and repeal, instead of valid arguments and solutions.

Everyone is still waiting for you to come up with any kind of argument. None of your posts make sense, sadly.

When I was in school, there was a special class for the retarded students like danielpalos. They didn't mix them with the educated kids.

 

[ChrisL]

And daniel-pos, don't call me "dear." I am not dear to you and vice versa.

You are just a plodding lolberal hack bitch with an appallingly ignorant misapprehension of what this Republic's Constitution actually says and means.. Nothing more.

wrong about what, dear? are you always so special and so slow, even molasses is faster than you.

you have nothing but fallacy that form of rejection and repeal, instead of valid arguments and solutions.

Everyone is still waiting for you to come up with any kind of argument. None of your posts make sense, sadly.

i already have dear; only the clueless and the Causeless claim what you do.

Nope, you haven't. All you do is string together some words and quote the second amendment. You haven't made any points at all. The language in the 2nd is clear, especially when you read the federalist papers that supplement the BOR. They are quite clear why they felt the 2nd amendment was important and it was to allow citizens to protect themselves, against whatever, the government, intruders, those who want to do them harm.

 

[danielpalos]

Dear, rights in self-defense are also secured in State Constitutions with the appropriate, "strings of words".

Our Second Article of Amendment merely socializes the right of the militia of the People to ensure the security and domestic Tranquility of the Body politic, not themselves.

 

[ChrisL]

Dear, rights in self-defense are also secured in State Constitutions with the appropriate, "strings of words".

Our Second Article of Amendment merely socializes the right of the militia of the People to ensure the security and domestic Tranquility of the Body politic, not themselves.

This doesn't even make any sense, as usual.