Would you allow everyone to own a fully auto M4 carbine?

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Would you allow everyone to own a fully auto capable M4 carbine?

Yes

 

[Flash]

Most of the school serial killers / mass shooters had no criminal history or background!

That is a great reason of why back ground checks are useless.

 

[AZrailwhale]

STUPID ANSWER.

Everyone is responsible until they do something irresponsible!

Most of the school serial killers / mass shooters had no criminal history or background!

Serial killers, let alone school shooters are such a small fraction of gun owners that they can’t me measured. Probably something like .00000000000000001%

 

[9thIDdoc]

Would you allow everyone to own a fully auto capable M4 carbine?

If everyone was a responsible gun owner who never committed crimes? If somehow we could filter out the irresponsible gun owners?

Doesn't matter what you or I would allow. What the Constitution allows is what is important.

 

[toobfreak]

Serial killers, let alone school shooters are such a small fraction of gun owners that they can’t me measured. Probably something like .00000000000000001%

And yet we want to (or at least democrats want to) sculpt all gun law and policy around what these kids do!

 

[Otis Mayfield]

Doesn't matter what you or I would allow. What the Constitution allows is what is important.

The 2nd Amendment says you can legally own a full auto M4.

Yet you'd get arrested if the police found one in your possession.

What happened?

 

[Desperado]

Would you allow everyone to own a fully auto capable M4 carbine?

If everyone was a responsible gun owner who never committed crimes? If somehow we could filter out the irresponsible gun owners?

Yes by all means, especially active and prior service military hell they already had the weapon strainng in the basic

 

[Rigby5]

No. Never believed in fairy tale lands. Frogs would not bump their ass when they hopped, if they had wings.

You're the one being unrealistic.
While we would prefer if the government dealt with the "bad guys" for us and we would not have to, the reality is that government itself always also is or turns into the "bad guys".
If you pay for full auto for the government with your taxes, then you have to also ensure enough ordinary citizens have them as well, so that we do not end up like the Weimar Republic.
And anytime you allow government to get a monopoly on weapons, you eventually always end up like the Weimar Republic.

Sure there are always going to be some people who can not control themselves and can't be trusted with a full auto rifle, but those people also can not be trusted with a car, flammables, explosives, toxins, or anything else that all people have easy access to.
So the only way to deal with those dangerous people is to confine them under supervised conditions.
To instead try to turn the entire civilian population into a supervised condition that is denied access to full auto rifles, is to ensure a dictatorship.
There is no option.
Gun control does not work, never works, and is inherently in conflict with any democratic republic.
Read any history book, and they all tell you that all governments become corrupt over time and have to be destroyed by force.
It is inevitable, with none lasting longer than about 400 years, and most less than 100 or so.

The US government is no exception, and has been evil to the point is should have been destroyed, over 100 years ago, like the Spanish American War, the Philippine Rebellion, etc. The only reason we have not already been forced to act is that the corruption has been mostly aimed at people outside this country. Like Vietnamese, Iraqis, Libyans, Afghans, Egyptians, Syrians, etc. But there are millions being harmed in the US as well, such as those imprisoned by the illegal War on Drugs.

Just read the Bill of Right again. It is very clear. There can be no legal federal gun control laws. Totally impossible. And yet there are federal gun control laws? How is that possible, and why did we let that happen?

 

[Flash]

The 2nd Amendment says you can legally own a full auto M4.

Yet you'd get arrested if the police found one in your possession.

What happened?

I legally own a M-16 and I won't get arrested for having it in my possession unless I use it in a crime.

 

[Rigby5]

STUPID ANSWER.

Everyone is responsible until they do something irresponsible!

Most of the school serial killers / mass shooters had no criminal history or background!

But they all had obvious medical history problems that should have caused then to have been supervised long before they became a violence problem.
Before Reagan, there were medical facilities in place to catch and deal with problems like that.
We need to replace them.

 

[progressive hunter]

You're the one being unrealistic.
While we would prefer if the government dealt with the "bad guys" for us and we would not have to, the reality is that government itself always also is or turns into the "bad guys".
If you pay for full auto for the government with your taxes, then you have to also ensure enough ordinary citizens have them as well, so that we do not end up like the Weimar Republic.
And anytime you allow government to get a monopoly on weapons, you eventually always end up like the Weimar Republic.

Sure there are always going to be some people who can not control themselves and can't be trusted with a full auto rifle, but those people also can not be trusted with a car, flammables, explosives, toxins, or anything else that all people have easy access to.
So the only way to deal with those dangerous people is to confine them under supervised conditions.
To instead try to turn the entire civilian population into a supervised condition that is denied access to full auto rifles, is to ensure a dictatorship.
There is no option.
Gun control does not work, never works, and is inherently in conflict with any democratic republic.
Read any history book, and they all tell you that all governments become corrupt over time and have to be destroyed by force.
It is inevitable, with none lasting longer than about 400 years, and most less than 100 or so.

The US government is no exception, and has been evil to the point is should have been destroyed, over 100 years ago, like the Spanish American War, the Philippine Rebellion, etc. The only reason we have not already been forced to act is that the corruption has been mostly aimed at people outside this country. Like Vietnamese, Iraqis, Libyans, Afghans, Egyptians, Syrians, etc. But there are millions being harmed in the US as well, such as those imprisoned by the illegal War on Drugs.

Just read the Bill of Right again. It is very clear. There can be no legal federal gun control laws. Totally impossible. And yet there are federal gun control laws? How is that possible, and why did we let that happen?

there cant be any state or federal gun laws,,

you keep leaving the states part out of your comments,,

 

[Plow Boy]

No, I would not allow just anyone to own a full auto M-4.
There is a criminal element in society, and there are lunatics and there are men who love to kill.

And your premise is faulty. There are people who have a bloodlust.

 

[progressive hunter]

No, I would not allow just anyone to own a full auto M-4.
There is a criminal element in society, and there are lunatics and there are men who love to kill.

And your premise is faulty. There are people who have a bloodlust.

an M-4 isnt going to change any of that,,

 

[2aguy]

Would you allow everyone to own a fully auto capable M4 carbine?

If everyone was a responsible gun owner who never committed crimes? If somehow we could filter out the irresponsible gun owners?

Yep.....they do it in Switzerland......we don't have a gun problem in the U.S...we have a political party, the democrat party, that is making war on the police, and then they keep releasing violent gun offenders.

Stop both of those things and our crime rate goes down.

 

[2aguy]

If you're a responsible person.

If you're not a responsible person, we don't want you anywhere near an M4 Carbine.

If you are a criminal, you should be in prison...the problem is that the democrat party keeps letting violent, repeat gun offenders out of jail and prison no matter how many times they are arrested for illegal guns and shooting people...

Can you explain why they do that?

That would essentially solve your question from the first post.

 

[Mac-7]

Gun safety classes should be mandatory in schools

Libs are opposed to gun safety classes

 

[Crepitus]

Would you allow everyone to own a fully auto capable M4 carbine?

If everyone was a responsible gun owner who never committed crimes? If somehow we could filter out the irresponsible gun owners?

Why?

They can do huge amounts of damage in a very short time, why do you need it?

 

[progressive hunter]

Why?

They can do huge amounts of damage in a very short time, why do you need it?

because it can do a huge amount of damage in a very short time,,, thats why democrats fear it and all other guns,,

 

[2aguy]

Why?

They can do huge amounts of damage in a very short time, why do you need it?

I personally don't, but I wouldn't stop people from getting one....that is called freedom....

Why won't you tell the democrats to stop releasing actual violent gun offenders....the ones doing almost all of the shooting?

 

[Crepitus]

because it can do a huge amount of damage in a very short time,,, thats why democrats fear it and all other guns,,

Why do you feel you need to do a tremendous amount of damage in a very short time?