We already know the damage guns do.
43,000 deaths
70,000 injuries
400,000 crimes committed with guns
217 BILLION in economic losses.
Compared to, if you believe the OP, 343 times a civilian with a gun shot a bad guy and killed him.
The problem is that people like the tiny-dicked OP want you to really believe there are hundreds of thousands or millions of times that bad guys are shown guns and flee...
It's just laughable.
Joe lies...it is what he does......he doesn't want to point out that the majority of gun deaths in the U.S. are suicides....that ruins his argument. He doesn't want to point out that in 2019 there were 10,258 actual gun murders...but the victims of those murders, 70-80% were criminals, engaged in the lifestyle of criminals....
That means using the 70% rate, 3,077 gun murders of innocent people in the U.S......a country of over 330,000,000 people........car accidents in 2018 from the CDC were 39,404.....
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Of the 3,077 innocent gun murder victims in a country of over 330 million people, joe doesn't want you to know that the majority of those victims were the friends and family of criminals...caught in the crossfire of their criminal activity and revenge shootings...
That ruins his argument...........
It also ruins his argument when you look at the fact that as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 27 years, the gun crime rate went down 75%.....the gun murder rate went down 49%, and the gun crime rate went down 72%.....this means that guns do not increase gun crime, or gun murder.....which ruins his entire argument......
Also, Americans with legal guns save lives....lots of lives....according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, armed, law abiding Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes, robberies and murders.......if you don't like their research, you can look at the Department of Justice research that shows the number of defensive gun uses at 1.5 million times a year...
1.1 million times a year guns are used to save lives from rape, robbery and murder......
That far outnumbers the innocent lives lost to criminals with illegal guns...guns they already can't buy, own or carry, but get anyway because they are criminals...
Joe lies...it is what he does......he doesn't want to point out that the majority of gun deaths in the U.S. are suicides....that ruins his argument. He doesn't want to point out that in 2019 there were 10,258 actual gun murders...but the victims of those murders, 70-80% were criminals, engaged in the lifestyle of criminals....
That means using the 70% rate, 3,077 gun murders of innocent people in the U.S......a country of over 330,000,000 people........car accidents in 2018 from the CDC were 39,404.....
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Of the 3,077 innocent gun murder victims in a country of over 330 million people, joe doesn't want you to know that the majority of those victims were the friends and family of criminals...caught in the crossfire of their criminal activity and revenge shootings...
That ruins his argument...........
It also ruins his argument when you look at the fact that as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 27 years, the gun crime rate went down 75%.....the gun murder rate went down 49%, and the gun crime rate went down 72%.....this means that guns do not increase gun crime, or gun murder.....which ruins his entire argument......
Also, Americans with legal guns save lives....lots of lives....according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, armed, law abiding Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes, robberies and murders.......if you don't like their research, you can look at the Department of Justice research that shows the number of defensive gun uses at 1.5 million times a year...
1.1 million times a year guns are used to save lives from rape, robbery and murder......
That far outnumbers the innocent lives lost to criminals with illegal guns...guns they already can't buy, own or carry, but get anyway because they are criminals...
More research on how often Americans use their legal guns to stop criminals...
A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....
The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....
GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense
GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys
Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)
DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)
L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)
Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)
2021 national firearm survey, Prof. William English, PhD. designed by Deborah Azrael of Harvard T. Chan School of public policy, and Mathew Miller, Northeastern university.......1.67 million defensive uses annually.
CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)
Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million
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Bordua...1977...1,414,544
DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)
Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)
Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)
Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)
DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)
Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."
(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the
Journal of Quantitative Criminology,
[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.
[18])
Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others.
Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000.
Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer
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Ohio...1982...771,043
Gallup...1991...777,152
Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)
Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..
2021 national firearms survey..
The survey was designed by Deborah Azrael of the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Matthew Miller of Northeastern University,
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The survey further finds that approximately a third of gun owners (31.1%) have used a firearm to defend themselves or their property, often on more than one occasion, and it estimates that guns are used defensively by firearms owners in approximately 1.67 million incidents per year. Handguns are the most common firearm employed for self-defense (used in 65.9% of defensive incidents), and in most defensive incidents (81.9%) no shot was fired. Approximately a quarter (25.2%) of defensive incidents occurred within the gun owner's home, and approximately half (53.9%) occurred outside their home, but on their property. About one out of ten (9.1%) defensive gun uses occurred in public, and about one out of twenty (4.8%) occurred at work.
2021 National Firearms Survey
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