Would the Republicans sabotage the economy for political gain?

[JimH52]

The unemployment extension bill might not have any Republican votes in the Senate and House Majority Leader Cantor said he will not bring a bill to the floor for a vote. The reasons the Republicans give for opposing extending unemployment benefits for 3 months are wide and varied. Could the primary reason for the opposition be to blame the Democrats for a bad economy? In other words, would the Republicans sabotage the economy for political gain?

First of all regardless of what the democrats tell you Republicans are not in the majority. If something doesn't get passed it is because the majority is not doing their jobs. In other words compromising.

Second it is only your opinion that says that not extending the benefits, if that is what the Republicans actually want, would be bad for the economy.

But let us say that the Republicans would do such a thing for political gain, what then is the reason that the democrats have been sabotaging the economy for that last 7 years that they have controlled at least 2/3s of the government?

The GOP House is doing everything it can to doom the economy. All you need to do is watch for a few days. The economy's gain is the GOP's loss. They have 3 more years of obstruction and stonewalling ahead, all the while praying that Obama doesn't get a chance to appoint a Supreme Court Justice. When it really doesn't matter. The GOP is finishing in national races, as far as the eye can see.

Their obstruction of any kind of immigration reform will doom them at the polls for generations to come....

 

[Kosh]

The unemployment extension bill might not have any Republican votes in the Senate and House Majority Leader Cantor said he will not bring a bill to the floor for a vote. The reasons the Republicans give for opposing extending unemployment benefits for 3 months are wide and varied. Could the primary reason for the opposition be to blame the Democrats for a bad economy? In other words, would the Republicans sabotage the economy for political gain?

First of all regardless of what the democrats tell you Republicans are not in the majority. If something doesn't get passed it is because the majority is not doing their jobs. In other words compromising.

Second it is only your opinion that says that not extending the benefits, if that is what the Republicans actually want, would be bad for the economy.

But let us say that the Republicans would do such a thing for political gain, what then is the reason that the democrats have been sabotaging the economy for that last 7 years that they have controlled at least 2/3s of the government?

The GOP House is doing everything it can to doom the economy. All you need to do is watch for a few days. The economy's gain is the GOP's loss. They have 3 more years of obstruction and stonewalling ahead, all the while praying that Obama doesn't get a chance to appoint a Supreme Court Justice. When it really doesn't matter. The GOP is finishing in national races, as far as the eye can see.

Their obstruction of any kind of immigration reform will doom them at the polls for generations to come....

Actually that would be the far left as they need as many people feeding off the government as possible in order to stay in power. Just like all the government investments in to companies that went belly up and cost thousands of jobs in order to make the rich far left elitists even richer.

 

[Redfish]

The unemployment extension bill might not have any Republican votes in the Senate and House Majority Leader Cantor said he will not bring a bill to the floor for a vote. The reasons the Republicans give for opposing extending unemployment benefits for 3 months are wide and varied. Could the primary reason for the opposition be to blame the Democrats for a bad economy? In other words, would the Republicans sabotage the economy for political gain?

No, but obama and the democrats would and have.

 

[Mac1958]

Both sides are equally guilty of screwing the country for political gain. My economics professor said the Democrats pulled those same tricks in 2007 and 2008 to hamper the economy just to score political points at election time.

The sooner everyone in this country realizes the political parties and politicians are not our friends and are only in it for themselves, the better off we'll be as a nation.

Yep.

Today's partisan ideologues are capable of anything, period.

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[Redfish]

The unemployment extension bill might not have any Republican votes in the Senate and House Majority Leader Cantor said he will not bring a bill to the floor for a vote. The reasons the Republicans give for opposing extending unemployment benefits for 3 months are wide and varied. Could the primary reason for the opposition be to blame the Democrats for a bad economy? In other words, would the Republicans sabotage the economy for political gain?

First of all regardless of what the democrats tell you Republicans are not in the majority. If something doesn't get passed it is because the majority is not doing their jobs. In other words compromising.

Second it is only your opinion that says that not extending the benefits, if that is what the Republicans actually want, would be bad for the economy.

But let us say that the Republicans would do such a thing for political gain, what then is the reason that the democrats have been sabotaging the economy for that last 7 years that they have controlled at least 2/3s of the government?

The GOP House is doing everything it can to doom the economy. All you need to do is watch for a few days. The economy's gain is the GOP's loss. They have 3 more years of obstruction and stonewalling ahead, all the while praying that Obama doesn't get a chance to appoint a Supreme Court Justice. When it really doesn't matter. The GOP is finishing in national races, as far as the eye can see.

Their obstruction of any kind of immigration reform will doom them at the polls for generations to come....

Obstruction of marxist collectivist policies and refusing to open our borders is the right thing to do for America.

The GOP has put forth several ideas for dealing with the illegals currently in this country that would give them a path to citizenship, but the dems want unfettered amnesty as a way to buy votes at the expense of american jobs and security.

 

[Redfish]

Both sides are equally guilty of screwing the country for political gain. My economics professor said the Democrats pulled those same tricks in 2007 and 2008 to hamper the economy just to score political points at election time.

The sooner everyone in this country realizes the political parties and politicians are not our friends and are only in it for themselves, the better off we'll be as a nation.

Yep.

Today's partisan ideologues are capable of anything, period.

.

true, but the party's motives and visions of this country are not the same. The dems want european socialism, most republicans want individual freedom and the constitution.

 

[Geaux4it]

The unemployment extension bill might not have any Republican votes in the Senate and House Majority Leader Cantor said he will not bring a bill to the floor for a vote. The reasons the Republicans give for opposing extending unemployment benefits for 3 months are wide and varied. Could the primary reason for the opposition be to blame the Democrats for a bad economy? In other words, would the Republicans sabotage the economy for political gain?

IDK- But Obama sure has no issues with doing so

-Geaux

 

[zeke]

Republicans HAVE sabotaged the economy for political gain.

It just didn't work.

Just think how much better off the country and the Republican party would be IF every time the Dems made an economic proposal, the Repubs came back with either an improvement to the idea or simply a better idea.

And the economy was rolling along and Repubs could point with pride to the ideas they presented and implemented and say; yes we did that, for ALL America.

 

[Redfish]

Republicans HAVE sabotaged the economy for political gain.

It just didn't work.

Just think how much better off the country and the Republican party would be IF every time the Dems made an economic proposal, the Repubs came back with either an improvement to the idea or simply a better idea.

And the economy was rolling along and Repubs could point with pride to the ideas they presented and implemented and say; yes we did that, for ALL America.

How exactly has the party that controls half of one third of the government sabotaged the economy?

The current economic mess belongs solely to obama and the dems. Its their policies that have kept unemployment at 8% or more, put more people in poverty than ever more, and more on food stamps than ever before.

But I guess you think having more people dependent on govt is a good thing.

 

[zeke]

Republicans HAVE sabotaged the economy for political gain.

It just didn't work.

Just think how much better off the country and the Republican party would be IF every time the Dems made an economic proposal, the Repubs came back with either an improvement to the idea or simply a better idea.

And the economy was rolling along and Repubs could point with pride to the ideas they presented and implemented and say; yes we did that, for ALL America.

How exactly has the party that controls half of one third of the government sabotaged the economy?

The current economic mess belongs solely to obama and the dems. Its their policies that have kept unemployment at 8% or more, put more people in poverty than ever more, and more on food stamps than ever before.

But I guess you think having more people dependent on govt is a good thing.

Dude, you have no idea what I "think" and as far as you "thinking" it don't happen very often.

But you would make a good parrot.

 

[Redfish]

Republicans HAVE sabotaged the economy for political gain.

It just didn't work.

Just think how much better off the country and the Republican party would be IF every time the Dems made an economic proposal, the Repubs came back with either an improvement to the idea or simply a better idea.

And the economy was rolling along and Repubs could point with pride to the ideas they presented and implemented and say; yes we did that, for ALL America.

How exactly has the party that controls half of one third of the government sabotaged the economy?

The current economic mess belongs solely to obama and the dems. Its their policies that have kept unemployment at 8% or more, put more people in poverty than ever more, and more on food stamps than ever before.

But I guess you think having more people dependent on govt is a good thing.

Dude, you have no idea what I "think" and as far as you "thinking" it don't happen very often.

But you would make a good parrot.

IF you "think" that obama has done a good job with the economy then you have to "think" that having more people on the govt dole is a good thing.

Polly want a cracker?

 

[francoHFW]

Pubs have blocked EVERYTHING since 2/2010, and every threat of shutdown and phony debt crisis costs the economy 0.6 per cent in growth each time...DUH.

 

[dblack]

Pubs have blocked EVERYTHING since 2/2010, and every threat of shutdown and phony debt crisis costs the economy 0.6 per cent in growth each time...DUH.

Opposition parties are supposed to oppose. If the Democrats had tried half as hard when they were in the minority, we might not be saddled with shit like the Patriot Act and the NSA insanity.

 

[RandomVariable]

One thought. If the Democrats are completely wrong and Democrats are completely to blame for everything these days, if the economy is getting better, what does that say about that point of view? Time for some reflection?

 

[Spiderman]

The unemployment extension bill might not have any Republican votes in the Senate and House Majority Leader Cantor said he will not bring a bill to the floor for a vote. The reasons the Republicans give for opposing extending unemployment benefits for 3 months are wide and varied. Could the primary reason for the opposition be to blame the Democrats for a bad economy? In other words, would the Republicans sabotage the economy for political gain?

Of course they would.

BTW so would the democrats.

 

[zeke]

Pubs have blocked EVERYTHING since 2/2010, and every threat of shutdown and phony debt crisis costs the economy 0.6 per cent in growth each time...DUH.

Opposition parties are supposed to oppose. If the Democrats had tried half as hard when they were in the minority, we might not be saddled with shit like the Patriot Act and the NSA insanity.

That is a very valid point. Of course anyone who did oppose those acts was labeled as a terrorist sympathizer or worse.

Bernie Sanders was against all the above. You ever seen a right winger talk about Bernie Sanders of Vt with any respect for his views?

I guess the good thing is that IF the Repubs were to ever gain control over both houses of Congress, the road blocks put up by Dems will be greatly appreciated by the opposing party.

They will recognize kindred spirits and embrace the dysfunction in Congress.

 

[Redfish]

One thought. If the Democrats are completely wrong and Democrats are completely to blame for everything these days, if the economy is getting better, what does that say about that point of view? Time for some reflection?

If it gets better, and so far it has not, then the party in power would get the credit. Thats the way it works. When the economy sucks, as it does now, the dems get the blame.

 

[dblack]

Pubs have blocked EVERYTHING since 2/2010, and every threat of shutdown and phony debt crisis costs the economy 0.6 per cent in growth each time...DUH.

Opposition parties are supposed to oppose. If the Democrats had tried half as hard when they were in the minority, we might not be saddled with shit like the Patriot Act and the NSA insanity.

That is a very valid point. Of course anyone who did oppose those acts was labeled as a terrorist sympathizer or worse.

Yeah. Sorta like TP supporters are labeled as racists, rednecks or worse.

Bernie Sanders was against all the above. You ever seen a right winger talk about Bernie Sanders of Vt with any respect for his views?

Only 'extreme right' kooks like Ron Paul.

I guess the good thing is that IF the Repubs were to ever gain control over both houses of Congress, the road blocks put up by Dems will be greatly appreciated by the opposing party.

They will recognize kindred spirits and embrace the dysfunction in Congress.

Sadly, no. They'll make the same statist power-plays the Democrats do.

The weak link in the chain, in my view, isn't Republican obstructionism. It's a lack of meaningful Democrat obstructionism (and a Court unwilling to enforce meaningful Constitutional limits on government). When we have sound constitutional support, obstructionism saves us from radical change when it doesn't have broad consensus. Even when you are in favor of such change, it doesn't do your side much good to push something through with a slim majority, only to have it contested bitterly by half of the country (ACA). The bitter partisanship isn't the problem. It's the Court and our commitment to limited government that have failed us.

 

[RandomVariable]

One thought. If the Democrats are completely wrong and Democrats are completely to blame for everything these days, if the economy is getting better, what does that say about that point of view? Time for some reflection?

If it gets better, and so far it has not, then the party in power would get the credit. Thats the way it works. When the economy sucks, as it does now, the dems get the blame.

I was more wondering if anyone on the USMB who change their mind. (I know the answer to that even better than I know the answer to the OP's original question. )

 

[The Rabbi]

One thought. If the Democrats are completely wrong and Democrats are completely to blame for everything these days, if the economy is getting better, what does that say about that point of view? Time for some reflection?

If it gets better, and so far it has not, then the party in power would get the credit. Thats the way it works. When the economy sucks, as it does now, the dems get the blame.

That really portrays the simplistic thinking evident on this site. Either the economy is getting better or it's getting worse. Nothing in between.
The truth is more subtle. The truth is that while the economy is apparently recovering, it has been hobbled, maybe permanently, by Democratic laws and programs. Certainly the level of growth coming out of a recession has been grossly sub par historically. And no, financial recessions do not take longer to recover from nor result in slower growth in the recovery phase.