Zone1 Would Jesus support Donald Trump if alive today?

[hadit]

Ahem. I though you were wagering a bet on me not being able to reveal a hidden story in the miracle of the loaves.

Who is running away?

lol

This is interesting. Just what DO you think those commands as written by God in His Law mean? Remember, it can't be simply what they say, it has to be something you made up.

 

[ding]

perverted: (of a thing) having been corrupted or distorted from its original course, meaning, or state.

 

[hadit]

Oh please!

I picked an easy one that any child could understand. If you can't admit the wisdom of the deeper implications of this Law worthy of a loving and benevolent God, what good would revealing anything else be? It would just go whoosh, right over your defiled and contaminated head.

I know what Christ said are the two most important commandments of all, and they are easy to understand, no inventiveness required.

 

[ding]

I know what Christ said are the two most important commandments of all, and they are easy to understand, no inventiveness required.

Have you ever encountered anyone who perverts the bible more than hobelim ?

 

[hobelim]

Game on. Bet accepted. Get to it.

Will you pay the piper if I produce a story hidden in plain sight in full view of believers and unbelievers alike whether Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Sikh, Atheist Agnostic, Pagan, Satanist, secular humanist, Nudist, Pianist, magician, cop, criminal, republican, democrat, liberal, conservative, angel, demon, rich, poor, healthy, sick, or whatever, in the account of "the miracle of the multiplication of the loaves" that conforms to REALITY with nothing supernatural, no blind faith, no suspension of disbelief required, and finally STFU?

Yes or no.

 

[hobelim]

I know what Christ said are the two most important commandments of all, and they are easy to understand, no inventiveness required.

To love God with all your heart soul and mind you would have to know him. And if you loved your neighbor you would rather be crucified upside down than pay homage to whatever devil taught you that idolatry is the way to eternal life and mislead them by submitting to a lie.

And the golden rule "treat others as you would have them treat you" presents a real problem for the person, like trump, who I heard likes to get peed on. But thats just what I heard.

 

[ding]

Will you pay the piper if I produce a story hidden in plain sight in full view of believers and unbelievers alike whether Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Sikh, Atheist Agnostic, Pagan, Satanist, secular humanist, Nudist, Pianist, magician, cop, criminal, republican, democrat, liberal, conservative, angel, demon, rich, poor, healthy, sick, or whatever, in the account of "the miracle of the multiplication of the loaves" that conforms to REALITY with nothing supernatural, no blind faith, no suspension of disbelief required, and finally STFU?

Yes or no.

Show me the hidden meaning in all these commands. Share your perverted wisdom with the world.

6 None of you shall approach a close to have sexual intercourse. I am the LORD.

7* You shall not disgrace your father by having intercourse with your mother.c She is your own mother; you shall not have intercourse with her.

8You shall not have intercourse with your father’s wife, for that would be a disgrace to your father.

9You shall not have intercourse with your sister,* d your father’s daughter or your mother’s daughter, whether she was born in your own household or born elsewhere.

10You shall not have intercourse with your son’s daughter or with your daughter’s daughter,* for that would be a disgrace to you.

11You shall not have intercourse with the daughter whom your father’s wife bore to him in his household,e since she, too, is your sister.

12You shall not have intercourse with your father’s sister,f since she is your father’s relative.

13You shall not have intercourse with your mother’s sister, since she is your mother’s relative.

14You shall not disgrace your father’s brother by having sexual relations with his wife,g since she, too, is your aunt.

15You shall not have intercourse with your daughter-in-law;* h she is your son’s wife; you shall not have intercourse with her.

16You shall not have intercourse with your brother’s wife;* i that would be a disgrace to your brother.

17You shall not have intercourse with a woman and also with her daughter, nor shall you marry and have intercourse with her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter;j they are related to her. This would be shameful.

18While your wife is still living you shall not marry her sister as her rival and have intercourse with her.k

19You shall not approach a woman to have intercourse with her while she is in her menstrual uncleanness.l

20You shall not have sexual relations with your neighbor’s wife,* m defiling yourself with her.

21n You shall not offer any of your offspring for immolation to Molech,* thus profaning the name of your God. I am the LORD.

22You shall not lie with a male as with a woman;o such a thing is an abomination.

23You shall not have sexual relations with an animal, defiling yourself with it; nor shall a woman set herself in front of an animal to mate with it; that is perverse.p

 

[DennisPTate]

OK, is he supporting Trump?

I personally like the angle that Messianic Rabbi Jonathan Cahn takes on the subject of how God is using President Trump.

We all owe President Trump big time for STOPPING HILLARY in 2016!

I am even somewhat thankful that Obama stopped her in 2008!

 

[Crepitus]

To hold their representatives accountable to the commands of Christ, to vote as a single block only for the Godliest candidates and to publicly state they will do so, rejecting any and all candidates that do not pledge fealty to the Scriptures. Tens of millions of Americans, all voting in unison, only for certain candidates, then holding them accountable to Scripture. Yes, you would scream theocracy and be totally opposed.

Wow, you are really confused.

 

[ding]

What is it that you think I want them to do?

What do you want them to do?

 

[ding]

No real christian would support tRump and his actions.

What's a real Christian?

 

[Crepitus]

What do you want them to do?

Read the bible, especially the new testament. Learn how Jesus acted and treated his fellow humans.

Then you will know what I expect.

 

[ding]

Read the bible, especially the new testament. Learn how Jesus acted and treated his fellow humans.

Then you will know what I expect.

That's pretty vague. Can you be more specific on how you want me to act and what it is that I am doing today that I shouldn't?

 

[ElmerMudd]

I personally like the angle that Messianic Rabbi Jonathan Cahn takes on the subject of how God is using President Trump.

We all owe President Trump big time for STOPPING HILLARY in 2016!

I am even somewhat thankful that Obama stopped her in 2008!

I feel you insulted God.

 

[DennisPTate]

I feel you insulted God.

That is one, rather amusing, way of looking at what Messianic Rabbi Jonathan Cahn said about President Trump.

But do you remember what a group of Rabbi's in Israel wrote to him back in 2016?

Please remember that those Rabbi's in Israel have access to "The Torah Codes" or "The Bible Codes" made famous by author Michael Drosnin.

There is a coded message in the first five books of the Bible that includes details about President Trump and President Putin. [My guess regarding Putin is that he is involved in the fulfillment of Ezekiel chapters thirty eight and thirty nine, WHICH SETS THE STAGE FOR THE FULFILLMENT OF EZEKIEL CHAPTERS FORTY TO FORTY EIGHT]!


So my guess is that there are at least two major political leaders with a "Cyrus Calling" on their lives and on their administrations but one of those Cyrus's, [Putin], has temporarily gone toward the darkness much as King Absolom who attempted to rival his father King David, for the throne over the twelve tribes of Israel?

BIN EXCLUSIVE: Sanhedrin Asks Putin and Trump to Build Third Temple in Jerusalem​

ADAM ELIYAHU BERKOWITZ​

BIBLICAL NEWS​

NOVEMBER 10, 2016​

3 MIN READ​

BIN EXCLUSIVE: Sanhedrin Asks Putin and Trump to Build Third Temple in Jerusalem

The Nascent Sanhedrin is calling on Russian President Vladmir Putin and US president-elect Donald Trump to join forces and fulfill their Biblically-mandated roles by rebuilding the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem.

israel365news.com

My theory on which Jewish temple should be built first is the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex because it would be centred several kilometers outside of Jerusalem, and thus be less controversial than a Temple over The Gihon Spring a few hundred meters away from the existing Temple Mount?

Ezekiel chapter forty seven sounds like a win, win, win, win, win, win scenario for all ten million Israelis and all one billion or so of their neighbours, [who are supposed to have a great deal of respect for the Prophet Ezekiel, according to their own sacred writings]?


Here is an article that I found back in 2010 or 2011 by a near death experiencer from Uganda on a coming "Christian Political Cyrus."

Eporu Ronald Alfred

Kakira Deliverance Church,
P.O. Box 3191, Kakira, Jinja, Uganda

......

Dear brethren,
I salute you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ!

RE: SHARING NEW DISCOVERIES OF THE TRUTH IN BIBLE PROPHECY CONCERNING THE IMMINENT HEALING AND UNITY OF THE CHURCH

I am mesmerized by the truth in bible prophecy that the Spirit of God has been revealing over the recent years. Secret things belong to God and those that are revealed belong to us and our children... (Deut 29: 29).

1. King Cyrus the great ruled his country 555 years Before Christ i.e. from 576 BC to 530 BC and authorised the rebuilding of the second temple in Jerusalem. Cyrus of the Old Testament is hence associated with the number 555 and is the shadow figure of incoming Cyrus II of the New Testament. You may learn more about his history from the internet and scriptures. This new truth enables us to identify the leadership of the world that will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem as prophesied in book of Isaiah before the rise of antichrist. Cyrus II is coming to revive the evangelical/Pentecostal church in Jerusalem and restore the headquarters of the church in same city where the church was born. He is set to strip Babylon of the vessels of the temple and the name of the Lord God and transfer that crown back to Jerusalem thus leaving Babylon naked. Cyrus will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem in fulfilment of the prophecy of Jesus as written in the book of John 2:18-23 and the prophecy of Isaiah as written in chapters 40, 41, 45 and 47 of the book of Isaiah. Jesus regarded the temple as the symbol of his own body while saying that he had the power to lay it down on the first day (1st millennium) and rebuild or raise it up on the 3rd day (3rd millennium). Remember that one day in the eyes of God is the same as one thousand years (millennium) as stated in book of 2 Peter 3:8. Rebuilding of the temple is thus associated with unification of the church.

Cyrus II will rebuild the temple in honour of our lord Jesus Christ. The temple will be the unifying (rallying) point of the world wide evangelical church as the original headquarters of the church. Psalms133 denotes that there is such a powerful anointing that comes along with unity among brethren. Unification of the whole body of Jesus Christ will make the church so powerful that she will overrun the world within a short time before the return of our lord Jesus Christ. A divided church is a powerless church whereas a united church is a powerful church. The church can only be able to fulfil her ultimate mission of revealing Jesus to the world once we get united as one body of Jesus Christ following his last prayer for his disciples as written in John 17:20-23.

Cyrus II will erase that false image of Jesus that the counterfeit and Idolatrous state church of Babylon has been projecting around the world and revive the original church that projects the true brilliant image of Jesus Christ. Haggai 2:9 says that the glory of the latter church (temple) will be greater than the glory of the former church (temple).The rise of Cyrus will also usher in the ultimate fulfilment of the prophecy of Joel 2:28 where God intends to pour out His Spirit on all flesh in these last days. The era of Cyrus brings the gentile period of grace to its close and leads to the restoration of the Jewish period of grace and salvation.




2. King Manasseh was the shadow figure (forerunner) of the antichrist in the Old Testament who ruled over Jerusalem exactly 666 years Before Christ i.e. from 697 BC to 642 BC. (2 chronicle 33: 1-2 and 2 kings 21: 1-17). Antichrist is associated with the number 666 as written in the book of Revelation 13:18. Manasseh was the most evil king to have ever ruled over the city of Jerusalem and kingdom of Judah.

Manasseh is reported to have killed so many innocent people in Jerusalem that the streets of Jerusalem were flowing with blood; he worshiped pagan idols and stars; he built pagan alters for idols and stars in the very courtyards of the temple; he sacrificed his sons to idols; he consulted diviners and mediums; he even set up an abominable pagan image at the temple that causes desolation just as the incoming antichrist will do. It was on that basis that God decided to have that first temple destroyed completely since Manasseh had desecrated it.



3. Prophet Jonah was the shadow figure (forerunner) of Jesus Christ in the Old Testament who undertook his prophetic ministry around 777 B.C. Prophet Jonah is hence associated with the number 777. He arose from the shadow and demise of Prophet Elisha. His preaching radiated such great power and authority that turned the city of Nineveh as the rising super power of that time up side down within 3 days only (read the book of Jonah). Jonah was the prophetic force behind the restoration of the lost territories of Israel in the reign of King Jeroboam II of Israel between 782 BC and 741 BC as written in II Kings 14:25. Jonah related with God more or less as his own father and God loved him more or less as His own son. He volunteered to die save occupants of the ship and was raised to life after three days just like Jesus Christ. Jesus compared himself with Jonah as his forerunner in the Old Testament as far as his earthly ministry, death and resurrection was concerned in Mathew 12; 38-41, Luke 11; 29-32. Jesus will also oversee the restoration of the lost territories of Israel just like prophet Jonah when he comes to rule as the king of kings and Lord of Lords. We can therefore correctly associate Jesus Christ with the number 777 just like Jonah as our commander-in-chief, Lord of the Sabbath and fountain of life.

The more we know where we came from the more we know where we are going. You are cordially invited to visit my face book home page for more information and messages. Feel free to share this truth with other brethren just as I received it free of charge from God.

Your brother in Christ

Eporu Ronald
Scientist & Minister of Bible Prophecy

 

[hadit]

Read the bible, especially the new testament. Learn how Jesus acted and treated his fellow humans.

We do. We know how He acted and how He wants us to act. Tell you what, why don't you find the passages where He tells us to protest and riot against an administration instead of praying for, not against, that administration?

Then you will know what I expect.

Jesus said we are to respect and pray for our rulers. He did not say it was just fine with Him to obstruct and prevent authorities from carrying out their tasks. Jesus said nothing about holding our rulers accountable to His teachings, He said to hold ourselves and each other accountable. He did not say He was okay with us rioting and protesting against an administration. Does that help you?

You're talking to people who know what Jesus had to say about politics and your attempts to bring Him into politics when it suits you is not helping your cause.

 

[Hafar1014]

Jesus was deported last week back to Columbia.

 

[BreezeWood]

I feel you insulted God.

- the heavens is not a dictatorship nor sole proprietor, the opposite of pug, christian desert religions self serving monarchical dictatorial rule.

 

[BreezeWood]

Jesus was deported last week back to Columbia.

after the cowardly jews crucified him ...

 

[Hafar1014]

after the cowardly jews crucified him ...

The Romans allegedly did that assuming he even existed