Woody Allen Child Molester?

[tinydancer]

You do know that that is his adopted daughter, not Soon Yi?

Are you claiming that baby girl on his lap is Dylan?



My how she changed over the years.

Perv and Soon Yi have adopted two girls I believe. And that is what Dr Grump is saying. That kid on his lap is one of the adopted girls. NOT Soon Yi. Not Dylan. His NEW adopted child.

I linked directly to the article that had that picture as Soon Yi.

By the way, I just found the actual court documents denying Woody Allen any and all visitation rights with the children.

And the Court is scathing in their review of his relationship with Soon Yi and believe that there was a case to be made on the molestation of Dylan.

Check this out. Oh man this is killer.

As we noted above, Mr. Allen maintains that Ms. Farrow's allegations concerning the sexual abuse of Dylan were fabricated by Ms. Farrow both as a result of her rage over his relationship with Ms. Previn and as part of her continued plan to alienate him from his children.

However, our review of the record militates against a finding that Ms. Farrow fabricated the allegations without any basis.

Unlike the court at IAS, we do not consider the conclusions reached by Doctors Coates and Schultz and by the Yale-New Haven team, to be totally unpersuasive.

While the tendency of Dylan to withdraw into a fantasy and the inconsistencies in her account of the events of August 4, 1992, noted particularly by the Yale-New Haven team, must be taken into account in the evaluation of these serious allegations, the testimony given at trial by the individuals caring for the children that day, the videotape of Dylan made by Ms. Farrow the following day and the accounts of Dylan's behavior toward Mr. Allen both before and after the alleged instance of abuse, suggest that the abuse did occur.

YOWZAH!

ALLEN v. FARROW | Leagle.com

 

[tinydancer]

The Court also found this. Basically they say Woody is an asshole.

In January of 1992, Mr. Allen took the photographs of Ms. Previn, which were discovered on the mantelpiece in his apartment by Ms. Farrow and were introduced into evidence at the IAS proceeding.

Mr. Allen in his trial testimony stated that he took the photos at Ms. Previn's suggestion and that he considered them erotic and not pornographic.


We have viewed the photographs and do not share Mr. Allen's characterization of them. We find the fact that Mr. Allen took them at a time when he was formally assuming a legal responsibility for two of Ms. Previn's siblings to be totally unacceptable.

The distinction Mr. Allen makes between Ms. Farrow's other children and Dylan, Satchel and Moses is lost on this Court.

The children themselves do not draw the same distinction that Mr. Allen does.

This is sadly demonstrated by the profound effect his relationship with Ms. Previn has had on the entire family.

Allen's testimony that the photographs of Ms. Previn "were taken, as I said before, between two consenting adults wanting to do this" demonstrates a chosen ignorance of his and Ms. Previn's relationships to Ms. Farrow, his three children and Ms. Previn's other siblings.

His continuation of the relationship, viewed in the best possible light, shows a distinct absence of judgment.

It demonstrates to this Court Mr. Allen's tendency to place inappropriate emphasis on his own wants and needs and to minimize and even ignore those of his children.

At the very minimum, it demonstrates an absence of any parenting skills.



Shazaam!

http://www.leagle.com/decision/1994524197AD2d327_1461

 

[tinydancer]

And Sinatra hooked up with Mia when she was 21 and he 50. Oona Oneil was 18 and Chaplin 50. They had 8 kids. And?

And once again, Soon Yi was never his daughter. Not even step.

Emotionally they were family. Frank and Mia weren't Father/Daughter at any time. I don't think you are getting the family connection vs just a regular old May/December relationship.

they didn't live together.

Court records / Allen vs Farrow.

Certain salient facts concerning both Mr. Allen's and Ms. Farrow's relationships to their children and to each other are not disputed.

Review of these facts in an objective manner and the conclusions that flow from them, demonstrate that the determination of the IAS Court as to both custody and visitation is amply supported by the record before this Court.

From the inception of Mr. Allen's relationship with Ms. Farrow in 1980, until a few months after the adoption of Dylan O'Sullivan Farrow on June 11, 1985, Mr. Allen wanted nothing to do with Ms. Farrow's children.

Although Mr. Allen and Ms. Farrow attempted for approximately six months to have a child of their own, Mr. Allen did so apparently only after Ms. Farrow promised to assume full responsibility for the child.

Following the adoption however, Mr. Allen became interested in developing a relationship with the newly adopted Dylan.

While previously he rarely spent time in the respondent's apartment, after the adoption of Dylan he went to the respondent's Manhattan apartment more often, visited Ms. Farrow's Connecticut home and even accompanied the Farrow family on vacations to Europe.

Allen also developed a relationship with Moses Farrow, who had been adopted by the respondent in 1980 and was seven years old at the time of Dylan's adoption. However, Allen remained distant from Farrow's other six children.

ALLEN v. FARROW | Leagle.com

 

[Sunshine]

Are you claiming that baby girl on his lap is Dylan?



My how she changed over the years.

Perv and Soon Yi have adopted two girls I believe. And that is what Dr Grump is saying. That kid on his lap is one of the adopted girls. NOT Soon Yi. Not Dylan. His NEW adopted child.

I linked directly to the article that had that picture as Soon Yi.

By the way, I just found the actual court documents denying Woody Allen any and all visitation rights with the children.

And the Court is scathing in their review of his relationship with Soon Yi and believe that there was a case to be made on the molestation of Dylan.

Check this out. Oh man this is killer.

As we noted above, Mr. Allen maintains that Ms. Farrow's allegations concerning the sexual abuse of Dylan were fabricated by Ms. Farrow both as a result of her rage over his relationship with Ms. Previn and as part of her continued plan to alienate him from his children.

However, our review of the record militates against a finding that Ms. Farrow fabricated the allegations without any basis.

Unlike the court at IAS, we do not consider the conclusions reached by Doctors Coates and Schultz and by the Yale-New Haven team, to be totally unpersuasive.

While the tendency of Dylan to withdraw into a fantasy and the inconsistencies in her account of the events of August 4, 1992, noted particularly by the Yale-New Haven team, must be taken into account in the evaluation of these serious allegations, the testimony given at trial by the individuals caring for the children that day, the videotape of Dylan made by Ms. Farrow the following day and the accounts of Dylan's behavior toward Mr. Allen both before and after the alleged instance of abuse, suggest that the abuse did occur.

YOWZAH!

ALLEN v. FARROW | Leagle.com

I think her description of watching the train while he molested her is dead on. Most of the victims I have worked with developed ways to dissociate themselves from the situation in real time and also to entirely suppress their abuse with the memories coming back years later. Many remember their own abuse when they, themselves, have children. Her eating disorder and self mutilation are also classic signs. Unfortunately, most courts will not accept this as 'evidence.' But those two symptoms are classic symptoms of incest victims.

I think the system (the judge) copped out on this girl. The only thing worse than rape is betrayal. And the judge betrayed her by not allowing the prosecution to take place..

 

[freedombecki]

So it's okay to have sex with your WIFE'S adopted children....

Got it.

If she is a consenting adult? Absolutely. Does it sound and look creepy? Yes.

Let me ask you this. Let's fast forward a few years. Let's say for shits and giggles two people get together. He is 35 she is 35, The wife has a 15 year old daughter. Five years later they split up. 20 years later the husband runs into the daughter again. She is now 40 and he 60. They hook up. Is that an issue?

Dr. Grump, I think you're really trying to understand Americans, I really do, but incest is what it is.

 

[jillian]

Yup. I sure can.

thanks for the heads up.

 

[JoeB131]

A man who marries his daughter is a pervert and a pig. There's no question about it.

She wasn't his daughter.

Or his Stepdaughter.

 

[Noomi]

He waited until she grew up, screwed her, then married her. No one could look at this photo without feeling sick inside.

You do know that that is his adopted daughter, not Soon Yi?

That's great!

Soon Yi was that young, once. And he was waiting until she aged enough to screw her.

 

[Michelle420]

And Sinatra hooked up with Mia when she was 21 and he 50. Oona Oneil was 18 and Chaplin 50. They had 8 kids. And?

And once again, Soon Yi was never his daughter. Not even step.

Emotionally they were family. Frank and Mia weren't Father/Daughter at any time. I don't think you are getting the family connection vs just a regular old May/December relationship.

they didn't live together.

Yet, he procreated with Mia one biological child (ronan) and managed to adopt Dylan ( He is her adoptive father and that is how she viewed him as a child).

Which still emphasizes a family unit message to the other children growing up around the relationship of Mia & Woody.

It is still a mixed and confusing message for the kids (back then) and now and it really damaged the family unit.

He could at least be willing to do therapy with his children to try and repair some hurt that resulted from his behavior and actions.

Short of that, why should he be surprised at the anger, and hurt from what they perceive as betrayal?

 

[JoeB131]

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When I make these decisions I like to weigh as much fact as possible and hear from the person who was part of the investigation/prosecution, "Allen was investigated on child molestation claims for the 1992 accusation in Connecticut but prosecutors elected not to charge him.

The handling of the investigation was criticized after Litchfield County state attorney Frank S. Maco said in a press conference that he believed there was "probable cause'' to charge Allen but decided against prosecution partly to avoid a traumatic trial for the young girl".

The Australian

The above is what I weigh as well. There are many reasons for not prosecuting I look at the totality of the circumstances and events regarding a person.

Then the final question: Would I let this man be a role model for my child or any children? The answer is no.

No, I would not want this man to be a role-model to anyone.

Really, I don't even think he's a good person and I think he's an overrated director.

All that said, there was no physical evidence of abuse and frankly, a lot of dysfunction in that family.

A couple in Texas was recently released from prison because 20 years ago, during the "Satanic Panic", they were convicted of child abuse that now every agrees never happened.

Another point. If Allen were a pedophile, why haven't other people come forward?

 

[freedombecki]

A man who marries his daughter is a pervert and a pig. There's no question about it.

She wasn't his daughter.

Or his Stepdaughter.

If she was his wife's daughter, he was a father figure and as such, a stepfather. To put a wedge between a mother and daughter using sex is lower than snake snot.

 

[jillian]

A man who marries his daughter is a pervert and a pig. There's no question about it.

She wasn't his daughter.

Or his Stepdaughter.

If she was his wife's daughter, he was a father figure and as such, a stepfather. To put a wedge between a mother and daughter using sex is lower than snake snot.

they weren't married.
they didn't live together.

you're welcome, becki

 

[koshergrl]

His kids with Farrow, and Soon Yi, have the same mother.

So his wife is his son's sister.

 

[koshergrl]

Which is why the kids don't talk to him.

That and the unfortunate raping that went on.

 

[Michelle420]

She wasn't his daughter.

Or his Stepdaughter.

If she was his wife's daughter, he was a father figure and as such, a stepfather. To put a wedge between a mother and daughter using sex is lower than snake snot.

they weren't married.
they didn't live together.

you're welcome, becki

They did procreate and had a son together, they did adopt two kids together, they were for all practical purposes a family unit together for 12 years !

The mess is a choice he made, he acted on his desire and the consequences are the kids feel angry and hurt over it.

Nobody knows if he molested Dylan or not, only Woody and Dylan know.

But everyone knows that his choices effected the rest of the family and those feelings of anger are why his adult kids like Ronan blog about it and he has no care for how they feel, even though he is their father.

 

[Dr Grump]

So it's okay to have sex with your WIFE'S adopted children....

Got it.

If she is a consenting adult? Absolutely. Does it sound and look creepy? Yes.

Let me ask you this. Let's fast forward a few years. Let's say for shits and giggles two people get together. He is 35 she is 35, The wife has a 15 year old daughter. Five years later they split up. 20 years later the husband runs into the daughter again. She is now 40 and he 60. They hook up. Is that an issue?

Dr. Grump, I think you're really trying to understand Americans, I really do, but incest is what it is.

Not even close. But nice try...

 

[JoeB131]

A man who marries his daughter is a pervert and a pig. There's no question about it.

She wasn't his daughter.

Or his Stepdaughter.

If she was his wife's daughter, he was a father figure and as such, a stepfather. To put a wedge between a mother and daughter using sex is lower than snake snot.

Except she was never "his wife".

She was his girlfriend.

Now, yeah, is it creepy. Um, yeah, kind of.

But how about this. Mia Farrow had already kind of set an example that the way a woman gets ahead in life is by seducing older famous men.

She was 21 when she married a 50 year old Frank Sinatra.

She was 25 when she got involved with 41 year old Andre Previn (Soon-Yi's adopotive father), who himself was married to Dory Langan.

In short, "Get married to an older man, even he's involved with someone else, that's the way to get ahead".

 

[JoeB131]

Which is why the kids don't talk to him.

That and the unfortunate raping that went on.

Depends... His sone Moses has recently reconciled with him and called on Farrow and his siblings to cut the shit out.

 

[Gracie]

She wasn't his daughter.

Or his Stepdaughter.

If she was his wife's daughter, he was a father figure and as such, a stepfather. To put a wedge between a mother and daughter using sex is lower than snake snot.

Except she was never "his wife".

She was his girlfriend.

Now, yeah, is it creepy. Um, yeah, kind of.

But how about this. Mia Farrow had already kind of set an example that the way a woman gets ahead in life is by seducing older famous men.

She was 21 when she married a 50 year old Frank Sinatra.

She was 25 when she got involved with 41 year old Andre Previn (Soon-Yi's adopotive father), who himself was married to Dory Langan.

In short, "Get married to an older man, even he's involved with someone else, that's the way to get ahead".

Which has no bearing on Allen sexually molesting his children.

 

[koshergrl]

That's awesome.

Meanwhile, his wife and his kids are siblings.