Women have the right to control their own bodies.

[BS Filter]

Give me the reference.

OMG.

You far right wing radical extremists proclaim you're christians yet you don't know what's in the bible.

Have you ever read that book? Or are you like the rest of you far right wing radical extremists and just use that book as a weapon against anyone who doesn't agree with you?

The very first book of the bible, genesis 2:7 tells you when your god believes life begins.

When the first breath of air is taken through the nose.

You really are pathetic.

Genesis 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being.

You don't understand the difference between a spirit life and physical life. Adam was created perfect and when he sinned, he died spiritually. The Bible also says God formed you in the womb. So when did you become a Bible believer?

No, I think that passage is VERY CLEAR. Breath is life, according to the Bible. God formed Adam in his own image and when the formation was COMPLETE, God breathed LIFE into him.

There is also a reference in Exodus 21:

Exodus 21:22 - ASV - And if men strive together, and hurt a woman wi...

If God considered the death of the fetus to be "murder", why is the punishment a fine?

The reason why God breathed life into Adam is because adam was the first being created. I dont think that scripture is saying first breath is the beginning of life, just that Adam was formed from the dust of the ground and unless God breathed life into him, Adam would have been lifeless because there was nobody else to give him life.

Every person born since then has been given life by their mother.

Please point to the scripture that says what you claim.

No place in the bible says anything of what you claim so what you're doing is rewriting the bible to be what you want it to be.

Where you there when your god breathed the breath of life into adam's nose? Did your god specifically tell you what you claim?

By the way, people who hear other beings talk to them that aren't there are usually seeing a doctor for their mental problem of hearing things that aren't there.

You can twist the Bible all you want. You can make assumptions all you want.

It's not fact.

The fact is what the bible actually says. Not what you want it to say.

Gee, you're very smart. Did Adam and Eve have belly buttons?

 

[Flash]

A human child should have the right not be killed by its mother just because the mother doesn't want to be bothered with the child.

Only immoral and stupid Liberals don't understand that.

Well... You'd need to be pretty dense to think "not being bother with the child" is the generally the basis of such a decision.

Well, that specific reason is not it, but the most common reasons are:

The reasons most frequently cited were that having a child would interfere with a woman's education, work or ability to care for dependents (74%); that she could not afford a baby now (73%); and that she did not want to be a single mother or was having relationship problems (48%).

Reasons U.S. Women Have Abortions: Quantitative and Qualitative Perspectives

I can't see that those reason qualify as "can't be bothered".

Interfere with education/ability to work = ability to acquire the basics for a half decent life, in this society. Any failure in this respect would be imposed on any children.

Ability to care for dependents = which may include any existng children and definately include any child produced by the pregnancy.

Single parenthood/relationship porblems = Concern about bringing a child into a chaotic life.

None of these things qualify as "can't be bothered", they are real concerns every parent should take into account when choosing to have children.

Much of this because of the destruction of hetero marriage and the insanity of extremist feminism. Many of these women sold a bill of goods as they ended up with jobs that many men can not stand or worse collect of the taxpayer to keep their families going. Added costs for days off and weeks off and more time then that is staggering. Adding extra employees in overpaid privileged jobs has raised the cost of surviving for those who are not privileged. Artificial equality based on pure taxation that is a house of cards based on a fiat currency that depends on massive debts to keep the economy going.

When someone declares that being treated as chattel is a loss for women, I really don't see how I can find enough common ground for discussion.

Back in the 1980s my wife and I worked as counselors for young women contemplating an abortion. In the two years we did it we worked with 23 young women. All but one of them decided to either keep the child or put the child up for adoption.

One of the great joys we have now is seeing the children that were saved. Some of them have completed college and two of them have families of their own. Also all the mothers we have kept in touch with are all glad they did not kill their child.

Abortion is a despicable thing. Anybody that supports it is despicable.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

If a woman is pregnant, the only way for her tp become un pregnant is for her to give birth

I disagree.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Forget abortion for a second here.

I just want to be clear, because I am getting some pretty disturbing mixed signals.

Are some of you saying that GOVERNMENT needs to regulate all forms of birth control? Government should ban all or some forms of birth control?

.

 

[Frannie]

And if they controlled them a little better, we wouldn't need abortions.

Women just get stuck holding the bag. They don't get pregnant by themselves. Could we could include another party that perhaps should control themselves a little better, too?

99.99% of pregnancies happen because a woman spread her legs, or got on her knees and said bang me

The rest are rapes

 

[dblack]

Forget abortion for a second here.

I just want to be clear, because I am getting some pretty disturbing mixed signals.

Are some of you saying that GOVERNMENT needs to regulate all forms of birth control? Government should ban all or some forms of birth control?

The Final Solution™ involves creating the "Department of Procreation" to monitor human reproduction. For our own good, of course.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

A zygote is a human life. Go to hell.

More specifically, a human being in the zygote stage of life is A HUMAN BEING.

It's sad that most leftardz need that level of specificity. . . But they do.

A seed is not a flower, is not a vegetable, is not a tree. It's a seed. The container of the instructions to create the end result, but it is a seed.

Uhhmmm

Since you are so obviously challengled by logic.

I will try to dumb it down for you.

An organism is an organism.

An organism that is human in origin (the organism that is the product of human reproduction) is a HUMAN organism.

Brain cells firing yet?

And?

This in no manner justifies forcing women to give birth against her will through force of law.

You are such a simpleton. Aren't you.

If a woman is pregnant, the only way for her tp become un pregnant is for her to give birth.

No force is necessary.

Abortions are simply a matter of intentionally (forcibly) killing the child in the process.

Still doesn’t justify forcing women to give birth against her will through force of law.

 

[Vandalshandle]

As I posted several days ago, the issue is largely moot. Even in Missouri, where the hillbillies have closed every abortion clinic but one, there is a hospital right across the state line which is doing a booming business doing the procedure. And, once again, nobody is going to stop my wife or child from getting an abortion if the want it.

 

[BS Filter]

 

[Vandalshandle]

Well, if Be Carson is against abortion, then, of course I will change my mind!

 

[BS Filter]

More specifically, a human being in the zygote stage of life is A HUMAN BEING.

It's sad that most leftardz need that level of specificity. . . But they do.

A seed is not a flower, is not a vegetable, is not a tree. It's a seed. The container of the instructions to create the end result, but it is a seed.

Uhhmmm

Since you are so obviously challengled by logic.

I will try to dumb it down for you.

An organism is an organism.

An organism that is human in origin (the organism that is the product of human reproduction) is a HUMAN organism.

Brain cells firing yet?

And?

This in no manner justifies forcing women to give birth against her will through force of law.

You are such a simpleton. Aren't you.

If a woman is pregnant, the only way for her tp become un pregnant is for her to give birth.

No force is necessary.

Abortions are simply a matter of intentionally (forcibly) killing the child in the process.

Still doesn’t justify forcing women to give birth against her will through force of law.

Lame argument. The law also forces criminals to pay for their crimes. Perhaps we should stop forcing people to do the right thing, huh.

 

[BS Filter]

Well, if Be Carson is against abortion, then, of course I will change my mind!

You're a very sick creature.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

The abortion issue brainwashes to make people not see the value of kids

Then the gay fad comes


Then birth control

All because of greed wanting the women to work for them and not their children

Nature gives a woman much better health if she has kids compared to no kids

That is natural law of pain telling the woman she is in error

The worst health a woman gets comes from abortion

That is natural law telling her she is doing wrong

Not true, carrying a pregnancy to full term and giving birth has more health risks than having an abortion.

Wrong dead wrong

The studies have nearly all proven this

A few crooked studies have tried to cover up the real studies

Same as today

Fake news covering up real
News

This high treason corruption
And lying has woke up the higher logic men
Who are set to stop this high treason harm

This is the judgement by the men in
America

 

[GreenAndBlue]

A human child should have the right not be killed by its mother just because the mother doesn't want to be bothered with the child.

Only immoral and stupid Liberals don't understand that.

Well... You'd need to be pretty dense to think "not being bother with the child" is the generally the basis of such a decision.

Well, that specific reason is not it, but the most common reasons are:

The reasons most frequently cited were that having a child would interfere with a woman's education, work or ability to care for dependents (74%); that she could not afford a baby now (73%); and that she did not want to be a single mother or was having relationship problems (48%).

Reasons U.S. Women Have Abortions: Quantitative and Qualitative Perspectives

I can't see that those reason qualify as "can't be bothered".

Interfere with education/ability to work = ability to acquire the basics for a half decent life, in this society. Any failure in this respect would be imposed on any children.

Ability to care for dependents = which may include any existng children and definately include any child produced by the pregnancy.

Single parenthood/relationship porblems = Concern about bringing a child into a chaotic life.

None of these things qualify as "can't be bothered", they are real concerns every parent should take into account when choosing to have children.

The reason why women their kill their children 96% of the time is selfishness of not wanting to live up to the responsibility of taking care of the children. Can't be bothered. Your list is all different manifestations of that selfishness.

Sorry but Can't Be Bothered is not a good reason to kill a child. Like the Nazis didn't want to be bothered with the Jews.

If you want to get pregnant and give birth, go right ahead, but you have no say in what others do with their bodies.

The fetus with different DNA. It's very own proves its the babies body

A wrong statement against science you have made

But the corrupt left are always lying about and hiding science

A woman that gives birth recieves the best health benefit than anything

This is well documented

And in fact has shown to survive similar car crashes the most

This is nature giving the woman extra help to raise the kids

Breast cancer rates drop
Like a rock. Also well documented before the outright lying by the left came

The left lies and now hides and covers up science

 

[GreenAndBlue]

The abortion issue brainwashes to make people not see the value of kids

Then the gay fad comes


Then birth control

All because of greed wanting the women to work for them and not their children

Nature gives a woman much better health if she has kids compared to no kids

That is natural law of pain telling the woman she is in error

The worst health a woman gets comes from abortion

That is natural law telling her she is doing wrong

Not true, carrying a pregnancy to full term and giving birth has more health risks than having an abortion.

Outrageous fake news coming from the media and crooked educational system is destroying this nation

There cannot be any learning when covering up science and news

Science has come on strong to say abortion is murder of a human with its own DNA Educators should have told this to the18 yr olds who would then vote against democrats and abortion
But no the 18 yr old votes more for abortion than the voters that has left school in early times

That would prove educators intentionally are lying on science to push liberalism

These people should be charged with the highest crimes possible

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Pregnancy and Breastfeeding Lower Estrogen Exposure
Pregnancy before age 30 and breastfeeding reduces the total number of lifetime menstrual cycles, which is thought to be one reason they help lower your risk. The hormone estrogen fuels 80% of all breast cancers. Since pregnancy and lactation reduce your estrogen levels, your risk is decreased each time you are pregnant and while you are nursing your baby, at least up to a point.

 

[dblack]

So, I'm wondering if the people arguing against the thread title are implicitly endorsing its alternative: "Women should not have the right to control their own bodies?" or "Government should have the final say over what goes on in a woman's body". How will that play out if leftists get a hold of government, and decide that overpopulation is the biggest problem we face?

 

[BS Filter]

The left works overtime to remake man in their own image instead of accepting God's creation.

 

[dblack]

The left works overtime to remake man in their own image instead of accepting God's creation.

Whereas the right is focused on remaking women. Division of labor I spose.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

The liberal education system
Is now totally lying on science

Harvard fired their president for showing that science have found natural differences in men and women

Larry Summers got fired for speaking about this science news

Now the lying is totally out of control
By education and the media

 

[Flash]

Well... You'd need to be pretty dense to think "not being bother with the child" is the generally the basis of such a decision.

Well, that specific reason is not it, but the most common reasons are:

The reasons most frequently cited were that having a child would interfere with a woman's education, work or ability to care for dependents (74%); that she could not afford a baby now (73%); and that she did not want to be a single mother or was having relationship problems (48%).

Reasons U.S. Women Have Abortions: Quantitative and Qualitative Perspectives

I can't see that those reason qualify as "can't be bothered".

Interfere with education/ability to work = ability to acquire the basics for a half decent life, in this society. Any failure in this respect would be imposed on any children.

Ability to care for dependents = which may include any existng children and definately include any child produced by the pregnancy.

Single parenthood/relationship porblems = Concern about bringing a child into a chaotic life.

None of these things qualify as "can't be bothered", they are real concerns every parent should take into account when choosing to have children.

The reason why women their kill their children 96% of the time is selfishness of not wanting to live up to the responsibility of taking care of the children. Can't be bothered. Your list is all different manifestations of that selfishness.

Sorry but Can't Be Bothered is not a good reason to kill a child. Like the Nazis didn't want to be bothered with the Jews.

If you want to get pregnant and give birth, go right ahead, but you have no say in what others do with their bodies.

The fetus with different DNA. It's very own proves its the babies body

A wrong statement against science you have made

But the corrupt left are always lying about and hiding science

A woman that gives birth recieves the best health benefit than anything

This is well documented

And in fact has shown to survive similar car crashes the most

This is nature giving the woman extra help to raise the kids

Breast cancer rates drop
Like a rock. Also well documented before the outright lying by the left came

The left lies and now hides and covers up science

You are trying to teach Biology to a stupid Moon Bat. It ain't gonna work.

Moon Bats are just as ignorant of Biology as they are of History, Economics, Climate Science, the Constitution and Ethics.