Women and minorities represent less than 10% of pilots, yet were factors in four out of eight crashes (50%).

[DonGlock26]

"Despite Trump’s efforts, airline DEI programs are still risking people’s lives

Three million Americans will board a plane today assuming the pilot earned that seat through merit. They shouldn’t.

For decades, airlines have subordinated safety to diversity quotas.

President Donald Trump rightly recognized this danger: Early on, he ordered the Federal Aviation Administration and Department of Transportation to rescind all DEI initiatives and return to merit-based hiring and promotions. But the FAA can, and must, do more.

I analyzed every US commercial flight crash with onboard fatalities attributed to pilot error since 2000: Women and minorities represent less than 10% of pilots, yet were factors in four out of eight crashes (50%).

The sample size is small. But precisely because crashes are so rare, the few times they occur it’s important to scrutinize who is at the controls; under DEI’s guiding principle of relying on statistical disparities, it’s certainly enough to raise questions.

It’s not that women and minorities are inherently unable to fly planes, but in practice, pressure for affirmative action too often leads airlines to lower their standards to meet quotas.

Today, major carriers persist in aggressive diversity hiring.

Delta CLO Peter Carter declared in January 2025 that the airline is “steadfast” in its DEI commitments, calling them “critical to our business.”

United’s training academy maintains its goal of ensuring 50% of graduates are women or minorities.

Southwest still pledges to “recruit, hire, and retain a diverse and inclusive workforce.”

American agreed not to impose illegal quotas, but that leaves plenty of wiggle room."

Despite Trump’s efforts, airline DEI programs are still risking people’s lives

Three million Americans will board a plane today assuming the pilot earned that seat through merit. They shouldn’t. For decades, airlines have subordinated safety to diversity quotas. The Federal A…

nypost.com

DEI should be called DIE. It is reckless and dangerous to chose pilots or any other high stakes skilled position even based partially on race or sex.
They should only be chosen based on performance.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

"Despite Trump’s efforts, airline DEI programs are still risking people’s lives

Three million Americans will board a plane today assuming the pilot earned that seat through merit. They shouldn’t.

For decades, airlines have subordinated safety to diversity quotas.

President Donald Trump rightly recognized this danger: Early on, he ordered the Federal Aviation Administration and Department of Transportation to rescind all DEI initiatives and return to merit-based hiring and promotions. But the FAA can, and must, do more.

I analyzed every US commercial flight crash with onboard fatalities attributed to pilot error since 2000: Women and minorities represent less than 10% of pilots, yet were factors in four out of eight crashes (50%).

The sample size is small. But precisely because crashes are so rare, the few times they occur it’s important to scrutinize who is at the controls; under DEI’s guiding principle of relying on statistical disparities, it’s certainly enough to raise questions.

It’s not that women and minorities are inherently unable to fly planes, but in practice, pressure for affirmative action too often leads airlines to lower their standards to meet quotas.

Today, major carriers persist in aggressive diversity hiring.

Delta CLO Peter Carter declared in January 2025 that the airline is “steadfast” in its DEI commitments, calling them “critical to our business.”

United’s training academy maintains its goal of ensuring 50% of graduates are women or minorities.

Southwest still pledges to “recruit, hire, and retain a diverse and inclusive workforce.”

American agreed not to impose illegal quotas, but that leaves plenty of wiggle room."

Despite Trump’s efforts, airline DEI programs are still risking people’s lives

Three million Americans will board a plane today assuming the pilot earned that seat through merit. They shouldn’t. For decades, airlines have subordinated safety to diversity quotas. The Federal A…

nypost.com

DEI should be called DIE. It is reckless and dangerous to chose pilots or any other high stakes skilled position even based partially on race or sex.
They should only be chosen based on performance.

Do you actually believe this article? And the guy who wrote it is a law school graduate but not a practicing attorney and I can readily see why, if this article is an example of his critical thinking skills.

4 accidents out of 8 accidents huh? Over what period of time? Why not 4 accidents out of all of them, do you know how to even determine that?

I don't know what is more comical, his article or you all are gobbling it up the way you are.

U.S. Commercial Airline Crashes With Fatalities (Pre-1963)​

1930s​

1. 1931 – TWA Flight 599 – Kansas – 8 dead
2. 1933 – United Air Lines Trip 23 – Indiana – 7 dead
3. 1935 – TWA Flight 6 – Missouri – 5 dead
4. 1937 – United Airlines Trip 23 – Utah – 19 dead
5. 1938 – United Airlines Flight 1 – California – 10 dead

1940–1945​

1. 1940 – Pennsylvania Central Airlines Trip 19 – Virginia – 25 dead
2. 1941 – Eastern Air Lines Flight 21 – Georgia – 8 dead
3. 1942 – American Airlines Flight 28 – California – 22 dead
4. 1943 – American Airlines Flight 63 – Tennessee – 20 dead
5. 1944 – TWA Flight 3 – Nevada – 24 dead

1946–1949​

1. 1946 – United Airlines Flight 521 – New York – 17 dead
2. 1946 – American Airlines Flight 96 – Tennessee – 39 dead
3. 1947 – United Airlines Flight 608 – Utah – 52 dead
4. 1947 – United Airlines Flight 623 – Maryland – 17 dead
5. 1948 – United Airlines Flight 624 – Pennsylvania – 47 dead (incl. ground fatalities)
6. 1949 – Eastern Air Lines Flight 537 – Washington, DC – 59 dead

1950–1955​

1. 1950 – Northwest Orient Flight 2501 – Lake Michigan – 58 dead
2. 1951 – United Airlines Flight 610 – Wyoming – 66 dead
3. 1953 – American Airlines Flight 723 – Ohio – 22 dead
4. 1955 – United Airlines Flight 629 – Colorado – 44 dead (bombing)

1956–1962​

1. 1956 – Grand Canyon Mid-Air Collision (UA 718 / TWA 2) – Arizona – 128 dead
2. 1959 – Braniff Flight 542 – Texas – 34 dead
3. 1960 – United 826 / TWA 266 Mid-Air Collision – New York – 134 dead (incl. ground fatalities)
4. 1961 – United Airlines Flight 859 – Colorado – 17 dead
5. 1962 – American Airlines Flight 1 – New York – 95 dead

So if DEI is allegedly responsible for four airline accidents in recent years (with 2009 as an outlier), what was causing the dozens of fatal U.S. airline crashes before 1963, when airlines had not yet hired a single Black or female pilot?

All 25 of these crashes happened when:

• Cockpits were 100% white
• 100% male
• Long before “DEI,” affirmative action, or diversity hiring existed in aviation

 

[Care4all]

"Despite Trump’s efforts, airline DEI programs are still risking people’s lives

Three million Americans will board a plane today assuming the pilot earned that seat through merit. They shouldn’t.

For decades, airlines have subordinated safety to diversity quotas.

President Donald Trump rightly recognized this danger: Early on, he ordered the Federal Aviation Administration and Department of Transportation to rescind all DEI initiatives and return to merit-based hiring and promotions. But the FAA can, and must, do more.

I analyzed every US commercial flight crash with onboard fatalities attributed to pilot error since 2000: Women and minorities represent less than 10% of pilots, yet were factors in four out of eight crashes (50%).

The sample size is small. But precisely because crashes are so rare, the few times they occur it’s important to scrutinize who is at the controls; under DEI’s guiding principle of relying on statistical disparities, it’s certainly enough to raise questions.

It’s not that women and minorities are inherently unable to fly planes, but in practice, pressure for affirmative action too often leads airlines to lower their standards to meet quotas.

Today, major carriers persist in aggressive diversity hiring.

Delta CLO Peter Carter declared in January 2025 that the airline is “steadfast” in its DEI commitments, calling them “critical to our business.”

United’s training academy maintains its goal of ensuring 50% of graduates are women or minorities.

Southwest still pledges to “recruit, hire, and retain a diverse and inclusive workforce.”

American agreed not to impose illegal quotas, but that leaves plenty of wiggle room."

Despite Trump’s efforts, airline DEI programs are still risking people’s lives

Three million Americans will board a plane today assuming the pilot earned that seat through merit. They shouldn’t. For decades, airlines have subordinated safety to diversity quotas. The Federal A…

nypost.com

DEI should be called DIE. It is reckless and dangerous to chose pilots or any other high stakes skilled position even based partially on race or sex.
They should only be chosen based on performance.

Gemini A/I

While it is true that women and minorities make up approximately 10% of professional pilots, the claim regarding crash statistics is misleading.
Representation
* Women: Comprise about 4.6% to 5.5% of Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) certificate holders.
* Minorities: Non-white pilots account for roughly 9% to 13% of the U.S. workforce.
Crash Data
The "4 out of 8 crashes" figure comes from a recent op-ed that used a very small sample size of specific high-profile incidents to suggest a trend. However, aviation safety experts and NTSB data do not support a link between diversity and increased accident rates.
* Statistical Reality: Major commercial crashes are so rare that a sample of 8 is not statistically significant for drawing broad conclusions about any demographic.
* Safety Drivers: NTSB investigations consistently cite factors like mechanical failure, weather, and experience levels—rather than race or gender—as primary causes.
* Comparative Safety: Studies, including those published in the Collegiate Aviation Review, indicate no significant difference in safety performance based on gender or ethnicity; some data even suggests female pilots are involved in fewer fatal accidents per flight hour.

A/I
Would you like me to find the specific NTSB reports for those eight crashes to see what the official causes were?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

While it is true that women and minorities make up approximately 10% of professional pilots, the claim regarding crash statistics is misleading.
Representation
* Women: Comprise about 4.6% to 5.5% of Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) certificate holders.
* Minorities: Non-white pilots account for roughly 9% to 13% of the U.S. workforce.
Crash Data
The "4 out of 8 crashes" figure comes from a recent op-ed that used a very small sample size of specific high-profile incidents to suggest a trend. However, aviation safety experts and NTSB data do not support a link between diversity and increased accident rates.
* Statistical Reality: Major commercial crashes are so rare that a sample of 8 is not statistically significant for drawing broad conclusions about any demographic.
* Safety Drivers: NTSB investigations consistently cite factors like mechanical failure, weather, and experience levels—rather than race or gender—as primary causes.
* Comparative Safety: Studies, including those published in the Collegiate Aviation Review, indicate no significant difference in safety performance based on gender or ethnicity; some data even suggests female pilots are involved in fewer fatal accidents per flight hour.

A/I
Would you like me to find the specific NTSB reports for those eight crashes to see what the official causes were?

I recently watched this show on Amazon Prime, I think it's called "Mayday" and it does a deep dive into various airline crashes worldwide. When they did a segment on the Colgan Air, Buffalo, crash in 2009, I remember some of the details probably because the female pilot is from here in King County Washington where Seattle is. They said that she's from Maple Valley, WA. But what the story uncovered was the horrible conditions they were forced to live & work under since they were flying for a smaller airline as opposed to one of the major ones. I think because the female pilot was in her first year they were barely making $20/hr. if that, but that generally quickly changes after the first year or so, their salary goes up substantially once they get so many years or hours in. So on their salary they couldn't afford to stay in a hotel to get good sleep because if I am recalling things correctly, they were flying turn-arounds, where they fly to a certain destination, lay over for X number of hours & then turn around and fly back home. They were kind of "commuting" back & forth to the east coast. But even though a large part of the problem for the crew was indeed the weather they were also substantially sleep deprived.

It may be more interesting to watch the video if you can instead of reading the NTSB report unless you just want the specs that the NTSB includes in their "blue books".

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

NBA needs to adopt DEI policy. Every team must have at least three white female midgets on the floor at all times.

 

[DonGlock26]

Would you like me to find the specific NTSB reports for those eight crashes to see what the official causes were?

You or AI?

 

[DonGlock26]

Do you actually believe this article? And the guy who wrote it is a law school graduate but not a practicing attorney and I can readily see why, if this article is an example of his critical thinking skills.

4 accidents out of 8 accidents huh? Over what period of time? Why not 4 accidents out of all of them, do you know how to even determine that?

I don't know what is more comical, his article or you all are gobbling it up the way you are.

U.S. Commercial Airline Crashes With Fatalities (Pre-1963)​

1930s​

1. 1931 – TWA Flight 599 – Kansas – 8 dead
2. 1933 – United Air Lines Trip 23 – Indiana – 7 dead
3. 1935 – TWA Flight 6 – Missouri – 5 dead
4. 1937 – United Airlines Trip 23 – Utah – 19 dead
5. 1938 – United Airlines Flight 1 – California – 10 dead

1940–1945​

1. 1940 – Pennsylvania Central Airlines Trip 19 – Virginia – 25 dead
2. 1941 – Eastern Air Lines Flight 21 – Georgia – 8 dead
3. 1942 – American Airlines Flight 28 – California – 22 dead
4. 1943 – American Airlines Flight 63 – Tennessee – 20 dead
5. 1944 – TWA Flight 3 – Nevada – 24 dead

1946–1949​

1. 1946 – United Airlines Flight 521 – New York – 17 dead
2. 1946 – American Airlines Flight 96 – Tennessee – 39 dead
3. 1947 – United Airlines Flight 608 – Utah – 52 dead
4. 1947 – United Airlines Flight 623 – Maryland – 17 dead
5. 1948 – United Airlines Flight 624 – Pennsylvania – 47 dead (incl. ground fatalities)
6. 1949 – Eastern Air Lines Flight 537 – Washington, DC – 59 dead

1950–1955​

1. 1950 – Northwest Orient Flight 2501 – Lake Michigan – 58 dead
2. 1951 – United Airlines Flight 610 – Wyoming – 66 dead
3. 1953 – American Airlines Flight 723 – Ohio – 22 dead
4. 1955 – United Airlines Flight 629 – Colorado – 44 dead (bombing)

1956–1962​

1. 1956 – Grand Canyon Mid-Air Collision (UA 718 / TWA 2) – Arizona – 128 dead
2. 1959 – Braniff Flight 542 – Texas – 34 dead
3. 1960 – United 826 / TWA 266 Mid-Air Collision – New York – 134 dead (incl. ground fatalities)
4. 1961 – United Airlines Flight 859 – Colorado – 17 dead
5. 1962 – American Airlines Flight 1 – New York – 95 dead

So if DEI is allegedly responsible for four airline accidents in recent years (with 2009 as an outlier), what was causing the dozens of fatal U.S. airline crashes before 1963, when airlines had not yet hired a single Black or female pilot?

All 25 of these crashes happened when:

• Cockpits were 100% white
• 100% male
• Long before “DEI,” affirmative action, or diversity hiring existed in aviation

Can you disprove his stats?

 

[Captain Creeper]

That Army Blackhawk pilot who caused the crash in DC that killed 67 people was a woman.

Army Blackhawk pilot in DC crash failed to heed flight instructor’s command 15 seconds before deadly collision: report

Along with the error, officials found that the pilots “stepped on” some of the air traffic controller’s instructions, meaning they accidentally cut him off when pressing the butto…

nypost.com

It is said that she “failed to heed her flight instructor’s warnings”. This makes me wonder, was she being moody because she was on her period? Was she upset because the male instructor was “mansplaining” to her. Maybe they were dating and she was miffed at him for some reason? One thing is for sure, you have no place in aviation if you cannot be calm and rational why flying.

 

[Care4all]

You or AI?

A/I was asking me if I wanted to see them....

 

[Care4all]

Can you disprove his stats?

The stats aren't stats... if they are selectively cut out of the whole picture.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Do you actually believe this article? And the guy who wrote it is a law school graduate but not a practicing attorney and I can readily see why, if this article is an example of his critical thinking skills.

4 accidents out of 8 accidents huh? Over what period of time? Why not 4 accidents out of all of them, do you know how to even determine that?

I don't know what is more comical, his article or you all are gobbling it up the way you are.

U.S. Commercial Airline Crashes With Fatalities (Pre-1963)​

1930s​

1. 1931 – TWA Flight 599 – Kansas – 8 dead
2. 1933 – United Air Lines Trip 23 – Indiana – 7 dead
3. 1935 – TWA Flight 6 – Missouri – 5 dead
4. 1937 – United Airlines Trip 23 – Utah – 19 dead
5. 1938 – United Airlines Flight 1 – California – 10 dead

1940–1945​

1. 1940 – Pennsylvania Central Airlines Trip 19 – Virginia – 25 dead
2. 1941 – Eastern Air Lines Flight 21 – Georgia – 8 dead
3. 1942 – American Airlines Flight 28 – California – 22 dead
4. 1943 – American Airlines Flight 63 – Tennessee – 20 dead
5. 1944 – TWA Flight 3 – Nevada – 24 dead

1946–1949​

1. 1946 – United Airlines Flight 521 – New York – 17 dead
2. 1946 – American Airlines Flight 96 – Tennessee – 39 dead
3. 1947 – United Airlines Flight 608 – Utah – 52 dead
4. 1947 – United Airlines Flight 623 – Maryland – 17 dead
5. 1948 – United Airlines Flight 624 – Pennsylvania – 47 dead (incl. ground fatalities)
6. 1949 – Eastern Air Lines Flight 537 – Washington, DC – 59 dead

1950–1955​

1. 1950 – Northwest Orient Flight 2501 – Lake Michigan – 58 dead
2. 1951 – United Airlines Flight 610 – Wyoming – 66 dead
3. 1953 – American Airlines Flight 723 – Ohio – 22 dead
4. 1955 – United Airlines Flight 629 – Colorado – 44 dead (bombing)

1956–1962​

1. 1956 – Grand Canyon Mid-Air Collision (UA 718 / TWA 2) – Arizona – 128 dead
2. 1959 – Braniff Flight 542 – Texas – 34 dead
3. 1960 – United 826 / TWA 266 Mid-Air Collision – New York – 134 dead (incl. ground fatalities)
4. 1961 – United Airlines Flight 859 – Colorado – 17 dead
5. 1962 – American Airlines Flight 1 – New York – 95 dead

So if DEI is allegedly responsible for four airline accidents in recent years (with 2009 as an outlier), what was causing the dozens of fatal U.S. airline crashes before 1963, when airlines had not yet hired a single Black or female pilot?

All 25 of these crashes happened when:

• Cockpits were 100% white
• 100% male
• Long before “DEI,” affirmative action, or diversity hiring existed in aviation

The reason they where all white males is because the racist Democrats didn't want minority or women commercial pilots from the 30's to 60's. You are a idiot.

 

[toobfreak]

All 25 of these crashes happened when:

• Cockpits were 100% white
• 100% male
• Long before “DEI,” affirmative action, or diversity hiring existed in aviation

One big flaw in your reasoning. All of your data is pre-1963. Planes were much more dangerous then.

Starting in the 1980s, planes became increasingly smarter, more computer controlled, with much more built in logic to detect, control and minimize bad decisions or actions which could cause the plane to crash.

Major jets today are almost idiot-proof.

And prior to 1963, all crew and pilots were white so how could every crash back then NOT be due to an all-white crew?

 

[westwall]

Do you actually believe this article? And the guy who wrote it is a law school graduate but not a practicing attorney and I can readily see why, if this article is an example of his critical thinking skills.

4 accidents out of 8 accidents huh? Over what period of time? Why not 4 accidents out of all of them, do you know how to even determine that?

I don't know what is more comical, his article or you all are gobbling it up the way you are.

U.S. Commercial Airline Crashes With Fatalities (Pre-1963)​

1930s​

1. 1931 – TWA Flight 599 – Kansas – 8 dead
2. 1933 – United Air Lines Trip 23 – Indiana – 7 dead
3. 1935 – TWA Flight 6 – Missouri – 5 dead
4. 1937 – United Airlines Trip 23 – Utah – 19 dead
5. 1938 – United Airlines Flight 1 – California – 10 dead

1940–1945​

1. 1940 – Pennsylvania Central Airlines Trip 19 – Virginia – 25 dead
2. 1941 – Eastern Air Lines Flight 21 – Georgia – 8 dead
3. 1942 – American Airlines Flight 28 – California – 22 dead
4. 1943 – American Airlines Flight 63 – Tennessee – 20 dead
5. 1944 – TWA Flight 3 – Nevada – 24 dead

1946–1949​

1. 1946 – United Airlines Flight 521 – New York – 17 dead
2. 1946 – American Airlines Flight 96 – Tennessee – 39 dead
3. 1947 – United Airlines Flight 608 – Utah – 52 dead
4. 1947 – United Airlines Flight 623 – Maryland – 17 dead
5. 1948 – United Airlines Flight 624 – Pennsylvania – 47 dead (incl. ground fatalities)
6. 1949 – Eastern Air Lines Flight 537 – Washington, DC – 59 dead

1950–1955​

1. 1950 – Northwest Orient Flight 2501 – Lake Michigan – 58 dead
2. 1951 – United Airlines Flight 610 – Wyoming – 66 dead
3. 1953 – American Airlines Flight 723 – Ohio – 22 dead
4. 1955 – United Airlines Flight 629 – Colorado – 44 dead (bombing)

1956–1962​

1. 1956 – Grand Canyon Mid-Air Collision (UA 718 / TWA 2) – Arizona – 128 dead
2. 1959 – Braniff Flight 542 – Texas – 34 dead
3. 1960 – United 826 / TWA 266 Mid-Air Collision – New York – 134 dead (incl. ground fatalities)
4. 1961 – United Airlines Flight 859 – Colorado – 17 dead
5. 1962 – American Airlines Flight 1 – New York – 95 dead

So if DEI is allegedly responsible for four airline accidents in recent years (with 2009 as an outlier), what was causing the dozens of fatal U.S. airline crashes before 1963, when airlines had not yet hired a single Black or female pilot?

All 25 of these crashes happened when:

• Cockpits were 100% white
• 100% male
• Long before “DEI,” affirmative action, or diversity hiring existed in aviation

Lack of technology, aircraft that weren't inherently safe, lack of on board meteorological radars, lack of radar, lack of safety rules for pilots, lack of safety rules for aircraft, hell, they were still in full on development mode till the 1970's.

After that it has been about refining what works. Planes crash now due to incompetence, or garbled messages from ground control in 95% of the cases. The other 5% are the unforseen mechanical failures that reach out and bitchslap you back to the realization that nothing is perfect.

Many times, however, good pilots can save lives even when there is a catastrophic failure.

Not always, but sometimes. That's why only the very best should have that ATP rating.

 

[LeftofLeft]

NBA needs to adopt DEI policy. Every team must have at least three white female midgets on the floor at all times.

While we are at it, the NCAA Men’s Football and Basketball Teams need to be better reflective of the schools’ student population from a diversity perspective. There needs to be at least 10 percent of the team’s’ composition have Asian, Indian, Latino, and LBGTQ players on the team. It is not sufficient to only have these players on roster slots, at least 1 player in the field of play during a game must be represented by a member of the protected class at all times or get penalized.

 

[fncceo]

yet were factors in four out of eight crashes​

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Do you actually believe this article? And the guy who wrote it is a law school graduate but not a practicing attorney and I can readily see why, if this article is an example of his critical thinking skills.

4 accidents out of 8 accidents huh? Over what period of time? Why not 4 accidents out of all of them, do you know how to even determine that?

I don't know what is more comical, his article or you all are gobbling it up the way you are.

U.S. Commercial Airline Crashes With Fatalities (Pre-1963)​

1930s​

1. 1931 – TWA Flight 599 – Kansas – 8 dead
2. 1933 – United Air Lines Trip 23 – Indiana – 7 dead
3. 1935 – TWA Flight 6 – Missouri – 5 dead
4. 1937 – United Airlines Trip 23 – Utah – 19 dead
5. 1938 – United Airlines Flight 1 – California – 10 dead

1940–1945​

1. 1940 – Pennsylvania Central Airlines Trip 19 – Virginia – 25 dead
2. 1941 – Eastern Air Lines Flight 21 – Georgia – 8 dead
3. 1942 – American Airlines Flight 28 – California – 22 dead
4. 1943 – American Airlines Flight 63 – Tennessee – 20 dead
5. 1944 – TWA Flight 3 – Nevada – 24 dead

1946–1949​

1. 1946 – United Airlines Flight 521 – New York – 17 dead
2. 1946 – American Airlines Flight 96 – Tennessee – 39 dead
3. 1947 – United Airlines Flight 608 – Utah – 52 dead
4. 1947 – United Airlines Flight 623 – Maryland – 17 dead
5. 1948 – United Airlines Flight 624 – Pennsylvania – 47 dead (incl. ground fatalities)
6. 1949 – Eastern Air Lines Flight 537 – Washington, DC – 59 dead

1950–1955​

1. 1950 – Northwest Orient Flight 2501 – Lake Michigan – 58 dead
2. 1951 – United Airlines Flight 610 – Wyoming – 66 dead
3. 1953 – American Airlines Flight 723 – Ohio – 22 dead
4. 1955 – United Airlines Flight 629 – Colorado – 44 dead (bombing)

1956–1962​

1. 1956 – Grand Canyon Mid-Air Collision (UA 718 / TWA 2) – Arizona – 128 dead
2. 1959 – Braniff Flight 542 – Texas – 34 dead
3. 1960 – United 826 / TWA 266 Mid-Air Collision – New York – 134 dead (incl. ground fatalities)
4. 1961 – United Airlines Flight 859 – Colorado – 17 dead
5. 1962 – American Airlines Flight 1 – New York – 95 dead

So if DEI is allegedly responsible for four airline accidents in recent years (with 2009 as an outlier), what was causing the dozens of fatal U.S. airline crashes before 1963, when airlines had not yet hired a single Black or female pilot?

All 25 of these crashes happened when:

• Cockpits were 100% white
• 100% male
• Long before “DEI,” affirmative action, or diversity hiring existed in aviation

Pretty much chopped up that racist theory, great job. You can also add all of the accidents from 1963 -2026.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Can you disprove his stats?

Can you identify the flaw in your argument? What about his argument?

How about just the 4 out 8 means 50% of airline crashes are due to DEI hires. That's what your title says - that minorities & women make up only 10% of the commercial airline pilot workforce yet are responsible for 50% of the crashes?

And what about prior to 1963 when the pilots were 100% male & white (or in the very least 0% Black & 0% female)? Who and what caused THOSE crashes?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

The reason they where all white males is because the racist Democrats didn't want minority or women commercial pilots from the 30's to 60's. You are a idiot.

Yeah I wouldn't be going around calling anyone an idiot when you're the one answering a rhetorical question, trying to make a point.

 

[Correll]

Do you actually believe this article? And the guy who wrote it is a law school graduate but not a practicing attorney and I can readily see why, if this article is an example of his critical thinking skills.

4 accidents out of 8 accidents huh? Over what period of time? Why not 4 accidents out of all of them, do you know how to even determine that?

Since 2000, he clearly stated that.

The point was that DEI lowers standards. Thus looking at accidents from BEFORE dei would not be relevant.

Yes, I suspect that he does understand teh concept of linear time and can select out CURRENT TIME PERIOD from ANCIENT HISTORY.

I don't know what is more comical, his article or you all are gobbling it up the way you are.

U.S. Commercial Airline Crashes With Fatalities (Pre-1963)​

1930s​

1. 1931 – TWA Flight 599 – Kansas – 8 dead
2. 1933 – United Air Lines Trip 23 – Indiana – 7 dead
3. 1935 – TWA Flight 6 – Missouri – 5 dead
4. 1937 – United Airlines Trip 23 – Utah – 19 dead
5. 1938 – United Airlines Flight 1 – California – 10 dead

1​

Like I said, yeah, the point is about DEI. DEI wasn't a thing in the 1930s. It is retarded to bring up accidents from then.

If the point was something like, "ONLY NON-WHITES HAVE ACCIDENTS", then your counter point would have been brilliant and hit like a freight train.

In the real world, it's shit talk.

Which is pretty much all libs have, when it comes time for them to defend DEI.


Because DEI does lower standards. We all know it.

ANd it is racist discrimination and oppression of whites.

Which is WHY you like it.

 

[toobfreak]

And what about prior to 1963 when the pilots were 100% male & white (or in the very least 0% Black & 0% female)? Who and what caused THOSE crashes?

That was already answered (several times). When stuff was 100% white, of course, naturally, 100% of all crashes were due to white pilots.

But airlines have made QUANTUM LEAPS in safety since the 1970s-1980s as problem after poblem was identified and designed out, fly-by-wire came in, and computer control took over.

What the OP is talking about is TODAY:

Women and minorities now make up 10% of the total pilot reservoir yet HALF of all recent crashes have been under their watch.

Now, not all crashes are due to pilot error---- some crashes, stuff just goes wrong; it would not much matter WHO was the pilot if a wing or engine falls off...

And planes are designed now to try to PREVENT pilots from doing stupid stuff (like trying to take off without the flaps extended). Still, the fact that HALF of all crashes is with female and minority pilots looks pretty statistically significant to me and not just a matter of sexism nor racism.