With the government officially shut down, let’s be clear about one thing:

[Marchimedes]

Yes, he could. So could Trump.

Schummer could end this if he told his creeps to vote for the CR.

Baby Jesus could end this if he told the Republicans to vote for Schumer's massive spending increase.

Wait.

What?

Look at you there, Mr. weirdo, you are entirely correct.

 

[kyzr]

Who is preventing that, besides Schumer?

Thune and Mike Johnson, they control congress. Whining about a CR isn't doing your jobs as majority leaders.
Using the CR as an excuse for a shutdown is moronic, it won't help them in the mid-terms.

Or has Schumer said that he will let Democrat Senators pass appropriations bills one at a time, even though he will not let them pass a simple CR? What were his exact words when he said that.

Republicans already passed 3 appropriations bills out of the house and senate. They just need a conference to finalize them, then they go to Trump's desk. Apparently we don't need democrats to pass appropriations bills.

Yes, and we know exactly who the three idiots are.

Thune, Johnson, Schumer, and Hakeem. I get 4.

 

[Marchimedes]

Do you disagree that the Democrats want

You are the wannabee wordsmith.

- as one condition of ending the shutdown

one

- people who crossed the border illegally and were given "a legal status" by the prior administration to get taxfunded healthcare through Medicaid?

Yes.

 

[Marchimedes]

Thune and Mike Johnson, they control congress.

Do they control the lefties in congress?

 

[citygator]

Sure, but I'd like to know what you disagree with.

Do you disagree that the Democrats want - as one condition of ending the shutdown - people who crossed the border illegally and were given "a legal status" by the prior administration to get taxfunded healthcare through Medicaid?

I’ve answered that many times on this thread. There are 13M people losing their healthcare and 12M are American citizens. The 1.3M legal asylum seekers are a tiny portion of the issue - and none of them are here illegally. What about the 12M American citizens?

 

[Marchimedes]

Using the CR as an excuse for a shutdown is moronic,

So the right is boss, House, Senate, the other House and Scotus. The right does not have filibuster proof numbers. This gives the left the ability to shut down Mother government.

We good so far?

The left can shut down Mother government with single digit Senators.

Shall I name them?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Thune and Mike Johnson, they control congress. Whining about a CR isn't doing your jobs as majority leaders.
Using the CR as an excuse for a shutdown is moronic, it won't help them in the mid-terms.

Excuse for a shutdown?

The CR will end the shutdown as soon as Schumer et all pass it.

Republicans already passed 3 appropriations bills out of the house and senate. They just need a conference to finalize them, then they go to Trump's desk. Apparently we don't need democrats to pass appropriations bills.

Thune, Johnson, Schumer, and Hakeem. I get 4.

I guess they could do that.

But why let the Dems off easy? They wanted this shutdown so Schumer could show AOC he is an Alpha Male.

Leave it up to them to finish what they started.

If you keep cleaning up a kid's messes for him that kid will keep making the messes.

 

[Mack The Finger]

Like they want to do to ICE. While they (antifa) wear masks.

Thanks teach I mean Marchimedes.

Drunk'n Carl the MI Truck Driver post here. I use to talk to him on the phone.

 

[kyzr]

Do they control the lefties in congress?

They are the majority leaders.
When democrats have the majority they do a much better job of managing their agenda.

 

[kyzr]

So the right is boss, House, Senate, the other House and Scotus. The right does not have filibuster proof numbers. This gives the left the ability to shut down Mother government. We good so far?

Not really. If I was a republican majority leader I would have congress working 7-days a week for 12-hours a day, working on appropriations bills and other items. For 3 ******* weeks they are getting paid for doing nothing but waste valuable time.

You are correct that Thune doesn't have 60 votes to end the filibuster. So change the rules, go nuclear, end the filibuster, end the shutdown, pass the appropriations bills.

The left can shut down Mother government with single digit Senators.
Shall I name them?

The fact that Thune doesn't call a vote to change the rules just for CRs and appropriations bills is moronic.

 

[kyzr]

Excuse for a shutdown?
The CR will end the shutdown as soon as Schumer et all pass it.

Schumer and democrats will never pass it. What are you not understanding? Take that as a fact.

I guess they could do that.
But why let the Dems off easy? They wanted this shutdown so Schumer could show AOC he is an Alpha Male.
Leave it up to them to finish what they started.
If you keep cleaning up a kid's messes for him that kid will keep making the messes.

Who gets punished by a shutdown? You are looking at politics instead of Federal workers, the military, the FBI, ICE, etc.
Tell the dems to shove their Obamacare subsidy up their collective asses.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Schumer and democrats will never pass it. What are you not understanding? Take that as a fact.

Suppose I take that as a fact, for the sake of arguement.

Johnson and the Republicans will not send them another spending bill until they pass the seven week clean CR, to allow reasonable time to negotiate.

Take that as a fact, for the sake of argument.

Where does that leave it?

Who gets punished by a shutdown? You are looking at politics instead of Federal workers, the military, the FBI, ICE, etc.

Politics is what put those folks in their jobs. Not the Contitution. When that was signed it allowed for no FBI, ICE, Etc. and no standing Army and a Navy that had to be authorized every two years.

This shutdown is terrible politics. Probably one of the dumbest moves as far as pure politics this century.

They FA'd now they need to FO. Or they will do it again.

Tell the dems to shove their Obamacare subsidy up their collective asses.

I don't know what you mean by that? Tell them they cannot have it, or tell them they can have it but curse them as we give it to them?

Sorry, I don't keep track of your posts, so I don't know what your position is on the shutdown.

 

[leftwinger]

Um . . . because the government is shutdown. You haven't heard? You should listen to Schumer more often. He said "every day gets better for us."

Is every day getting better for you during the shutdown?

If not, I suppose Chuck Schumer does not include you in "us."

I’ve answered that many times on this thread. There are 13M people losing their healthcare and 12M are American citizens. The 1.3M legal asylum seekers are a tiny portion of the issue - and none of them are here illegally. What about the 12M American citizens?

If so small (as you say) why do the communist claim to need $1.5T to fund it? For how long?

 

[leftwinger]

More coming. This could end it quickly. All Dem all day long.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Schumer's shutdown, anyone with half a brain cell knows it.

Merrill has half a brain cell and he doesn't know it.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I’ve answered that many times on this thread. There are 13M people losing their healthcare and 12M are American citizens. The 1.3M legal asylum seekers are a tiny portion of the issue - and none of them are here illegally. What about the 12M American citizens?

Who are they and how are they losing their healthcare?

I proved on another thread that able-bodied, but non-working Americans are only about 8% of Mediaid recipients.

Thread 'Study: Only 8% of Medicaid Recipients are Able-bodied and Non-working'

Oct 14, 2025

It is strange that these people are the hill Democrats are dying so horribly on:

https://www.ltsscenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Medicaid-Population-Work-Requirements-Age-18-64-Analyses-4-20-2025.pdf

Here is another interesting set of stats from that study:

So if a third of that 8% is available for work or looking for work, then they self-identify as able to work.

The community service option would be perfect for them. One reason that they may not be finding a job if they are looking for one, is that they have a long gap in work history or...

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Illegal border crossers and work refusers. Who else will lose Medicaid?

 

[kyzr]

Suppose I take that as a fact, for the sake of argument.
Johnson and the Republicans will not send them another spending bill until they pass the seven week clean CR, to allow reasonable time to negotiate. Take that as a fact, for the sake of argument. Where does that leave it?

There is no CR. There won't be a CR.
The senate needs to work on appropriations bills until they change senate rules.

Politics is what put those folks in their jobs. Not the Constitution. When that was signed it allowed for no FBI, ICE, Etc. and no standing Army and a Navy that had to be authorized every two years.
This shutdown is terrible politics. Probably one of the dumbest moves as far as pure politics this century.
They FA'd now they need to FO. Or they will do it again.

You aren't getting that you can't ask people to work without paying them. Chaos is no way to run a government. Its a bad look for Republicans, who are the MAJORITY in congress. The shutdown needs to end, the easy way or the hard way.

I don't know what you mean by that? Tell them they cannot have it, or tell them they can have it but curse them as we give it to them?
Sorry, I don't keep track of your posts, so I don't know what your position is on the shutdown.

What I mean is that Republicans need to use their majority to politely tell the democrats there is no way that the covid subsidy will be extended. Unless, MTG and others want to consider including the $130b annual subsidy just for US citizens paid for by tariffs, but the $1.5T democrat add will never happen.

 

[Seymour Flops]

There is no CR. There won't be a CR.

Suppose there won't.

The senate needs to work on appropriations bills until they change senate rules.

Suppose they do not.

Then what?

You aren't getting that you can't ask people to work without paying them.

Yes, we can. We're doing that now. Democrats don't mind that, they caused it. It's not slavery. The fedemps are free to say, "this sucks, I'm quitting." Save us even more money.

What Democrats fear is what happens in November - sixteen days away. Then food stamps, AKA SNAP, dries up.

SNAP benefits face 'insufficient funds' in November if shutdown continues, USDA warns

Some states are warning that funding for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program may not be available if the government shutdown continues.

www.usatoday.com

Democrats real fears is not that you can't ask people to work without paying them. It is that you cannot expect people to vote without feeding them.

Chaos is no way to run a government. Its a bad look for Republicans, who are the MAJORITY in congress. The shutdown needs to end, the easy way or the hard way.

Nah.

The media is desperately trying to convince us that this is a "Trump/Republican shutdown." But there is no way to connect the dots. An honest look at the sequence of events shows the Republicans doing everything correctly to fund the government temporarily and keep negotiating while the Democrats try to take the country hostage.

What I mean is that Republicans need to use their majority to politely tell the democrats there is no way that the covid subsidy will be extended. Unless, MTG and others want to consider including the $130b annual subsidy just for US citizens paid for by tariffs, but the $1.5T democrat add will never happen.

They have told them that several times. Democrats have the bizarre idea that if they hold out on the CR, the Republicans will extend the COVID subsidy, perhaps even enlarging it further.

What do you do when a kid says he'll hold his breath until his parents do what he demands?

 

[Mack The Finger]

Street fight it is!

The first rule of street fighting is there are no rules.

 

[merrill]

Make no mistake about it ......

With the government officially shut down, let’s be clear about one thing:

Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the White House. This is THEIR shutdown.

They have every tool to govern. Instead, they chose chaos. And now the American people are the ones paying the price.

Thousands of workers are going without pay. Families are seeing their benefits delayed. Small businesses cannot access the loans they depend on.

Republicans not showing up for work don't get paid damn it .............

No deal is required so the republicans can can back. They are choosing to not come back because they are lazy = forfeit their pay!

Speaker Johnson IS NOT their boss? The taxpayers are their boss!