With the government officially shut down, let’s be clear about one thing:

[JusticeHammer]

So, none of you will cry foul if the GOP changes the rules to allow the CR to pass with a simple majority?

Nope

 

[JWBooth]

So, none of you will cry foul if the GOP changes the rules to allow the CR to pass with a simple majority?

Foul? Nope, it is the kind of short sighted thinking I expect.

 

[JusticeHammer]

The MAGAsouls cannot refute the documented truth:

https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/d5fb1359-92a6-47ac-8fae-aeffb1de2f6e/jec-fact-sheet-on-state-by-state-impacts-of-health-care-cuts.pdf

Since it's a demscum lie, yes we can refute it.

 

[JusticeHammer]

As long as Republicans insist on slashing Americans' healthcare coverage under Medicaid and the ACA, no progress will be made.

State-by-State Data – 13.7 Million People Would Lose Health Insurance from Medicaid, ACA Cuts

https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/d5fb1359-92a6-47ac-8fae-aeffb1de2f6e/jec-fact-sheet-on-state-by-state-impacts-of-health-care-cuts.pdf

As long as demscum want healthcare for illegals, and the other insane proposals, the Schumer shutdown will continue.

 

[JusticeHammer]

The House passed a clean bill, Senate Republicans support that bill, and Trump has no part to play until a bill hits his desk. This is Schmuck Schumer's shutdown. Own it.

100% correct.

 

[citygator]

Because Shumer locked the Capitol bldg down? No security, maintained or

Schumer doesnt control the calendar. The GOP does. There is no budget even if the CR is passed. Why are they not working on it?

 

[BluesLegend]

Make no mistake about it ......

With the government officially shut down, let’s be clear about one thing:

Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the White House. This is THEIR shutdown.

Dems LOVE to LIE don't they. The House already passed the budget CR. Democrats in the Senate are the ones who voted no and shutdown government. Not once, not twice but half a dozen times.

I often wonder why Democrats are such gutless (C word)'s who can't muster the courage to openly own what they do.

 

[BluesLegend]

I would exile Democrats to a colony on Mars but the Mar's face would give us the WTF look.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Schumer doesnt control the calendar. The GOP does. There is no budget even if the CR is passed. Why are they not working on it?

Um . . . because the government is shutdown. You haven't heard? You should listen to Schumer more often. He said "every day gets better for us."

Is every day getting better for you during the shutdown?

If not, I suppose Chuck Schumer does not include you in "us."

 

[Stann]

Make no mistake about it ......

With the government officially shut down, let’s be clear about one thing:

Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the White House. This is THEIR shutdown.

They have every tool to govern. Instead, they chose chaos. And now the American people are the ones paying the price.

Thousands of workers are going without pay. Families are seeing their benefits delayed. Small businesses cannot access the loans they depend on.

Republicans not showing up for work don't get paid damn it .............

This is a major problem when extremists who are not willing to compromise gain control of a major political party as they have done with the Republican party. Democracy doesn't work that way.

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[kyzr]

Um, because the government is shutdown. You should listen to Schumer more often. He said "every day gets better for us."
Is every day getting better for you during the shutdown?
If not, I suppose Chuck Schumer does not include you in "us."

The question was "why isn't congress working on passing the Appropriation Bills?"

They both passed three, but need a conference to get them finalized.

The other 9 need to be passed by both houses, so why aren't they working on them? Then they wouldn't need the CR.

 

[citygator]

Um . . . because the government is shutdown. You haven't heard? You should listen to Schumer more often. He said "every day gets better for us."

Is every day getting better for you during the shutdown?

If not, I suppose Chuck Schumer does not include you in "us."

The shutdown doesnt keep congress from working, the majority leadership does. You do know that they arent connected, right?

 

[Seymour Flops]

The question was "why isn't congress working on passing the Appropriation Bills?"

They both passed three, but need a conference to get them finalized.

The other 9 need to be passed by both houses, so why aren't they working on them? Then they wouldn't need the CR.

Oh.

Now, I see what the question was, thanks!

And the answer: because the government is shut down.

If Senators and Congress folk were working diligently to pass those other nine appropriations bills, that would require laying on extra security who are not being paid and using a bunch of extra electricity, which there is no money to pay for.

Do you think it would be right for congress to have a shutdown and then "work around" the shutdown by pretending it's not happening?

It's bad enough that a quirk in our constitution has the exact lawmakers who shut us down still being paid. Having the "little people" come in and work without pay under those conditions would be assholery worthy of Marie Antoinette.

Besides, if they can't agree on this simple clean CR to fund the government at the same level for seven more weeks what makes you think they will agree on twelve appropriations packages?

 

[Seymour Flops]

The shutdown doesnt keep congress from working, the majority leadership does. You do know that they arent connected, right?

See my response to kyzr above.

 

[citygator]

See my response to kyzr above.

The legislative branch is constitutionally required to continue its duties, with members continuing to receive pay. That isnt a "quirk". That is a design. They are required to work and only avoiding it for some political reason. Id suggest it is to not seat the Dem congresswoman and get the votes for the Epstein Files - but it could be any reason.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The legislative branch is constitutionally required to continue its duties, with members continuing to receive pay. That isnt a "quirk". That is a design. They are required to work and only avoiding it for some political reason. Id suggest it is to not seat the Dem congresswoman and get the votes for the Epstein Files - but it could be any reason.

The Constitution does not require the House of Representatives to stay continually in session, hoping for a handful of Senate democrats who are holding up funding the nation to change their minds.

Speaker Johnson has stated many times that the Republicans are continuing with their duties. They are talking to their voters.Offering them help during this trying time. Also, they are taking stock of how their voters in their individual districts view this shutdown.

Are their voters wavering?

Do their voters want them to capitulate to the demands of Democrats? Such as free healthcare for people who crossed the border unlawfully and were granted "a lawful status" by the previous administration, and half a trillion dollars to the corporation for public broadcasting?

The purpose of such a shutdown to make voters on the other side suffer so much that they beg their elected officials to agree to the demands, correct? Do you think it is working? Or does Schumer need to do something else to the American people, to make them comply?

Maybe republican voters really are ready to give up. if so, don't you want Republican Congressfolk to know it?

 

[kyzr]

Oh. Now, I see what the question was, thanks! And the answer: because the government is shut down.

If Senators and Congress folk were working diligently to pass those other nine appropriations bills, that would require laying on extra security who are not being paid and using a bunch of extra electricity, which there is no money to pay for.
Do you think it would be right for congress to have a shutdown and then "work around" the shutdown by pretending it's not happening?

Yes it would be right. Those lazy coxockers should be working 7-days a week 12-hours a day until all the appropriations bills are passed. You do know that all workers and utilities would be paid after the shutdown, or after the appropriations bills are passed.
There is no "shutdown", just a "partial shutdown", and congress is even getting paid....to take time off....with pay...coxuckers.

It's bad enough that a quirk in our constitution has the exact lawmakers who shut us down still being paid. Having the "little people" come in and work without pay under those conditions would be assholery worthy of Marie Antoinette.

What "little people"? There are many people, including the military, ICE, FBI, air traffic controllers, etc., still on the job working, but the DC assholes are not working, but they are still getting paid.

Besides, if they can't agree on this simple clean CR to fund the government at the same level for seven more weeks what makes you think they will agree on twelve appropriations packages?

They don't have to agree on the 12 appropriations bills, but they need to work on them to negotiate to see how far off they are. I'm not sure if appropriations bills are 51 or 60 votes to pass. If deadlocked again, Thune needs to go nuclear.

 

[Seymour Flops]

They don't have to agree on the 12 appropriations bills, but they need to work on them to negotiate to see how far off they are. I'm not sure if appropriations bills are 51 or 60 votes to pass.

That sounds pretty time consuming. Leave the government shutdown all the while that goes on?

If deadlocked again, Thune needs to go nuclear.

A reasonable thought, but I disagree. The shutdown is idiotic, purely New York Democrat inside baseball using the American people as pawns. Those particular Democrats did this and nearly all Democrat Senators are aiding and abbeting them in it. If they don't like the shutdown they caused, let them end it.

There is no appitite outside the most liberal wing of the Democrat Party to give free healthcare to people who crossed the border illegally and were given "a legal status" en masse, nor to provide free healthcare to able-bodied Americans or non-Americans who decline to work or even do minimal hours of community service, and certainly none to provide the Corporation for Public Broadcasting with half a trillion tax-payer dollars.

I'm amazed that the Democrats did not think to include among those absurd demands some little funding project that would benefit all Americans. A middle-class tax cut, or something. Anything besides just throwing money at pet liberal causes.

Fifteen days without government funding? The American people must be suffering mightily.

or . . .

If the American people are not actually suffering at all under this limited number of government workers reporting to work, and limited expenditures, isn't it time for some serious and permanent cuts?

 

[Marchimedes]

With the government officially shut down, let’s be clear about one thing:​

Nowz when you make moonshine.

 

[kyzr]

That sounds pretty time consuming. Leave the government shutdown all the while that goes on?

If it is time consuming why are they wasting 3-weeks? The "shutdown" is not an excuse. They need to pass appropriations bills, one at a time. There are 3 that should be on Trump's desk for signature already.

A reasonable thought, but I disagree. The shutdown is idiotic, purely New York Democrat inside baseball using the American people as pawns. Those particular Democrats did this and nearly all Democrat Senators are aiding and abetting them in it. If they don't like the shutdown they caused, let them end it.

If the shutdown is idiotic, not working on appropriations bills, or approving Trump's nominees, or other needed bills is also idiotic.

There is no appetite outside the most liberal wing of the Democrat Party to give free healthcare to people who crossed the border illegally and were given "a legal status" en masse, nor to provide free healthcare to able-bodied Americans or non-Americans who decline to work or even do minimal hours of community service, and certainly none to provide the Corporation for Public Broadcasting with half a trillion tax-payer dollars. I'm amazed that the Democrats did not think to include among those absurd demands some little funding project that would benefit all Americans. A middle-class tax cut, or something. Anything besides just throwing money at pet liberal causes.
Fifteen days without government funding? The American people must be suffering mightily.
or . . .
If the American people are not actually suffering at all under this limited number of government workers reporting to work, and limited expenditures, isn't it time for some serious and permanent cuts?

Congress is broken.