Wind Power, is Germany waking up to no lights on?

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It's literally what we have been discussing. So, no. Not a different claim.

Totally different claim.

You said, "there is a net reduction of visible light photons warming the planet" when we use solar panels.

If 1000 W of solar powered electricity is used to power an electrical device, does it have the same waste heat as 1000 W of electricity that was generated from fossil fuels?

 

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When you move 1000 W of solar powered electricity from the panel to the electrical device,
how much does the planet cool because of that movement?

If 1000 W of solar powered electricity is used to power an electrical device, does it have the same waste heat as 1000 W of electricity that was generated from fossil fuels?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If 1000 W of solar powered electricity is used to power an electrical device, does it have the same waste heat as 1000 W of electricity that was generated from fossil fuels?

Did your satellite measured temperature at the solar farm ignore the waste heat of your device?

 

[ding]

When you move 1000 W of solar powered electricity from the panel to the electrical device,
how much does the planet cool because of that movement?

How much more generating waste heat will fossil fuels produce than solar to produce 1000 W of electricity?

 

[ding]

Did your satellite measured temperature at the solar farm ignore the waste heat of your device?

If 1000 W of solar powered electricity is used to power an electrical device, does it have the same waste heat as 1000 W of electricity that was generated from fossil fuels?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

How much more generating waste heat will fossil fuels produce than solar to produce 1000 W of electricity?

The movement doesn't cool the planet?

Good to know.

Glad you can finally see your error.

 

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The movement doesn't cool the planet?

Good to know.

Glad you can finally see your error.

When factoring in generation and usage, fossil fuels will produce twice the waste heat that solar will.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

When factoring in generation and usage, fossil fuels will produce twice the waste heat that solar will.

So simply adding solar panels without reducing fossil fuel use doesn't cool the planet?

 

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So simply adding solar panels without reducing fossil fuel use doesn't cool the planet?

Does replacing fossil fuels with solar cool the planet?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Does replacing fossil fuels with solar cool the planet?

Do solar panels cool the planet by causing "a net reduction of visible light photons warming the planet"?

 

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Do solar panels cool the planet by causing "a net reduction of visible light photons warming the planet"?

Do fossil fuels warm the planet?

 

[EMH]

Still no data? *****.

The Surface Air Pressure data is there. You've seen it. You even posted it...

Why is Earth SAP not rising if Earth is "warming?"

LOL!!!

 

[EMH]

Earth's climate is always changing. I'm not arguing that the rate of warming is unprecedented. I'm arguing that it is natural.

You don't have any warming. Warming on Earth is about net land moving out of the 600 miles to the pole zone. That's not happening, and hence Earth is not warming.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Surface Air Pressure data is there. You've seen it. You even posted it...

Why is Earth SAP not rising if Earth is "warming?"

LOL!!!

You have never posted SAP and temperature data for any city on Earth.

*****.

 

[EMH]

The lack of an increase in surface air pressure AGAIN VALIDATES the claim that EARTH IS NOT WARMING because if Earth was experiencing an ONGOING NET ICE MELT atmospheric pressure would increase. IT isn't. In fact, as the chart above documents, it is actually going down slightly, which VALIDATES the claim that 90% of Earth ice on land mass Antarctica has been increasing EVERY YEAR since Algore started lying...

LOL!!!

The lack of an increase in surface air pressure AGAIN VALIDATES the claim that EARTH IS NOT WARMING because if Earth was experiencing an ONGOING NET ICE MELT atmospheric pressure would increase. IT isn't. In fact, as the chart above documents, it is actually going down slightly, which VALIDATES the claim that 90% of Earth ice on land mass Antarctica has been increasing EVERY YEAR since Algore started lying...





GAME OVER

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

LOL!!!

The lack of an increase in surface air pressure AGAIN VALIDATES the claim that EARTH IS NOT WARMING because if Earth was experiencing an ONGOING NET ICE MELT atmospheric pressure would increase. IT isn't. In fact, as the chart above documents, it is actually going down slightly, which VALIDATES the claim that 90% of Earth ice on land mass Antarctica has been increasing EVERY YEAR since Algore started lying...





GAME OVER

Now post SAP and temperature data.

For any city on Earth. Every day for a year.

*****.

 

[EMH]

Now post SAP and temperature data.

For any city on Earth. Every day for a year.

*****.

That's not the issue. The claim from your side is that Earth has been warming for 150 years, which includes the past 60.

Surface Air Pressure refutes that completely. Any city, any location will show the same thing, no increase.

No increase in SAP = planet not warming = planet not experiencing an ongoing net ice melt


GAME OVER

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That's not the issue. The claim from your side is that Earth has been warming for 150 years, which includes the past 60.

Surface Air Pressure refutes that completely. Any city, any location will show the same thing, no increase.

No increase in SAP = planet not warming = planet not experiencing an ongoing net ice melt


GAME OVER

The Earth has been warming since the end of the Little Ice Age.

SAP has been declining for at least the last 60 years.

Still no data from you proving otherwise.

*****.

 

[EMH]

The Earth has been warming since the end of the Little Ice Age.

LOL!!!

Your definition of "ice age" is completely wrong, as is your claim of warming.

Thread 'Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...'

Jun 23, 2023

What is an ICE AGE?

Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice retreats, as if "Day After Tomorrow" movie is accurate... LOL!!! What was North American Ice Age before 2010 is now spun into a series of rapid "ice ages" where it took a mere 75k years for the "ice age" to start in Northern Canada and put 2.5 mile thick glaicers on Chicago. This is "Milankovich"...

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[Toddsterpatriot]

LOL!!!

Your definition of "ice age" is completely wrong, as is your claim of warming.

Thread 'Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...'

Jun 23, 2023

What is an ICE AGE?

Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice retreats, as if "Day After Tomorrow" movie is accurate... LOL!!! What was North American Ice Age before 2010 is now spun into a series of rapid "ice ages" where it took a mere 75k years for the "ice age" to start in Northern Canada and put 2.5 mile thick glaicers on Chicago. This is "Milankovich"...

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*****.