Will robotics and Artificial Intelligence make an Unconditional but Taxable Basic Minimum Income Supplement necessary?

[DennisPTate]

yes, but was not sure in the beginning
then I googled and remembered

Thank you for your verification of this rather fascinating aspect of world history during a time when the world economy was in a Great Depression.

 

[Zebra]

Wwonder Wörgl was the Winner!

 

[Zebra]

Thank you for your verification of this rather fascinating aspect of world history during a time when the world economy was in a Great Depression.

 

[Grumblenuts]

An excellent report on the topic:

Moratoriums and Federal Preemption of State Artificial Intelligence Laws Pose Serious Risks

Congressional Republicans are trying again to preempt state AI laws. Here’s what Congress’ last failed moratorium on state AI laws reveals about future efforts at preemption or moratoriums.

www.americanprogress.org

 

[DennisPTate]

An excellent report on the topic:

Moratoriums and Federal Preemption of State Artificial Intelligence Laws Pose Serious Risks

Congressional Republicans are trying again to preempt state AI laws. Here’s what Congress’ last failed moratorium on state AI laws reveals about future efforts at preemption or moratoriums.

www.americanprogress.org

Hopefully I will have some free time today to read though this. The entire situation that we are in right now seems quite serious.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Key takeaways, imo:

any attempt to suspend state authority in this fast-evolving space, whether for five years or 10, is dangerous if not paired with a federal floor of basic safeguards.

While the single best way to regulate AI may not yet be known, it is clear that doing nothing is not the answer. Allowing multiple approaches from states to coexist increases the chances of identifying what works, what needs adjustment, and what should be scaled nationally.

 

[DennisPTate]

Key takeaways, imo:

Wow!

I suspect that my level of true understanding of those two sentences is rather low. On the other hand now that I have moved from Nova Scotia, to Ontario this entire situation looks different to me.

Back home in Nova Scotia we had the mentality that people in Ontario and Quebec pretty much controlled whatever information or decision came out of Ottawa. Now that I am living in Paris, Ontario I believe that if I were to enter the next Mayor race here in Paris I could inspire a significant percentage of residents of this area to begin to look at the entire world differently?

Within half an hour of where I now live I could meet with people whose first language is representative of ninety to ninety five percent of the population of the entire earth.

Thread '"Unified Field Theory of Modern World Problems" by Dennis Tate'

Dec 9, 2025

I am of the belief that human productive capability is essentially without cap, top or limit?

I am of the belief that this fact can be misunderstood in many negative ways. On the other hand there is a true and positive application of this concept that could be used to set in motion the greatest economic boom that has happened in centuries.

"And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them...

• DennisPTate
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[kyzr]

.Well, since this tax increase on American importers has only brought in about $200 billion, I'd say your math thoroughly sucks!
Here's an idea. Since 97 percent of American importers are small businesses, how about we leave them the **** alone and eliminate the tax cuts for the wealthy instead?

Bessent says $300b other sources say $200b,

MSN

Importers only pay 22% of tariffs, **** them, they should be producing in the US anyway.

Why US consumers will pay for over half of Trump tariffs this year: Goldman Sachs estimate

American consumers will shoulder 55% of tariff costs, while US companies will take on 22% and foreign exporters will absorb 18% by slashing prices on their goods, economists including Elsie Peng an…

nypost.com

American consumers will shoulder 55% of tariff costs, while US companies will take on 22% and foreign exporters will absorb 18% by slashing prices on their goods, economists including Elsie Peng and David Mericle wrote in the note.

We do agree that taxes need to be raised, I suggest a 40% top rate, eliminate the capital gains tax break, and remove the cap on SS.

 

[kyzr]

Actually, the CBO has scored Trump's 2026 budget with a $1.7 trillion deficit for the fiscal year 2026.

Not for ten years. For ONE year.

Your link is for 2025 not 2026, the "orange" line for 2026 isn't there.

The CBO is the official scorer for the budgets, and their assumptions are conservative. Trump's deficit is $240b a year to start, less tariff revenue, DOGE cuts, and other "waste, fraud, and abuse cuts" like SNAP and Welfare fraud.

H.R. 1, One Big Beautiful Bill Act (Dynamic Estimate)

As passed by the House of Representatives on May 22, 2025

www.cbo.gov

The Congressional Budget Office and the staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) previously reported that H.R. 1, the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, as passed by the House of Representatives on May 22, would increase the primary deficit by $2.4 trillion over the 2025-2034 period

 

[DennisPTate]

Your link is for 2025 not 2026, the "orange" line for 2026 isn't there.

The CBO is the official scorer for the budgets, and their assumptions are conservative. Trump's deficit is $240b a year to start, less tariff revenue, DOGE cuts, and other "waste, fraud, and abuse cuts" like SNAP and Welfare fraud.

H.R. 1, One Big Beautiful Bill Act (Dynamic Estimate)

As passed by the House of Representatives on May 22, 2025

www.cbo.gov

The Congressional Budget Office and the staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) previously reported that H.R. 1, the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, as passed by the House of Representatives on May 22, would increase the primary deficit by $2.4 trillion over the 2025-2034 period

I believe that President Trump for all of his many flaws has been set up by his life story to play a critical role in USA and world history.

I believe that events of his past prepared him to understand how high interest rates are being used to turn three hundred and fifty million Americans into slaves to debt and taxes.

I believe that President Trump learned about the dangers of high interest rates from his own personal experiences.

If I remember correctly you pretty well have to go back in that article to around 2015 to find this quotation. BigMedia does not want you to know about this detail of his life so far.

Later in 1988, Trump acquired the Taj Mahal Casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey, in a transaction with Merv Griffin and Resorts International.[67] The casino was opened in April 1990, and was built at a total cost of $1.1 billion, which at the time made it the most expensive casino ever built.[68][69] Financed with $675 million in junk bonds[70] at a 14% interest rate, the project entered Chapter 11 bankruptcy the following year.[71] Banks and bondholders, facing potential losses of hundreds of millions of dollars, opted to restructure the debt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump

 

[dblack]

I believe that President Trump for all of his many flaws has been set up by his life story to play a critical role in USA and world history.

I believe that events of his past prepared him to understand how high interest rates are being used to turn three hundred and fifty million Americans into slaves to debt and taxes.

I believe that President Trump learned about the dangers of high interest rates from his own personal experiences.

If I remember correctly you pretty well have to go back in that article to around 2015 to find this quotation. BigMedia does not want you to know about this detail of his life so far.

You believe!

 

[DennisPTate]

You believe!

I do!

Some interesting predictions came out early in 2011.

4-28-11 Commander in Chief

The Spirit of God says, I have chosen this man, Donald Trump, for such a time as this. For as Benjamin Netanyahu is to lsrael, so shall this man be to the United States of America! For I will use this man to bring honor, respect and restoration to America. America will be respected once again as the most powerful and prosperous nation on earth, (other than lsrael). The dollar will be the strongest it has ever been in the history of the United States, and will once again be the currency by which all others are judged.


The Spirit of God says, the enemy will quake and shake and fear this man I have anointed. They will even quake and shake when he announces he is running for president, it will be like the shot heard across the world. The enemy will say what shall we do now? This man knows all our tricks and schemes. We have been robbing America for decades, what shall we do to stop this? The Spirit says HA! No one shall stop this that lhave started! Forthe enemy has stolen from America fordecades and it stops now! For I will use this man to reap the harvest that the United States has sown for and plunder from the enemy what he has stolen and return it 7 fold back to the United States. The enemy will say lsrael, lsrael, what about lsrael? For lsrael will be protected by America once again. The spirit says yes! America will once again stand hand and hand with lsrael, and the two shall be as one. For the ties between lsrael and America will be stronger than ever, and lsrael will flourish like never before.


The Spirit of God says, I will protect America and lsrael, for this next president will be a man of his word, when he speaks the world will listen and know that there is something greater in him than all the others before him. This man's word is his bond and the world and America will know this and the enemy will fear this, for this man will be fearless. The Spirit says, when the financial harvest begins so shall it parallel in the spiritual for America.


The Spirit of God says, in this next election they will spend billions to keep this president in; it will be like flushing their money down the toilet. Let them waist their money, for it comes from and it is being used by evil forces at work, but they will not succeed, for this next election will be a clean sweep for the man I have chosen. They will say things about this man (the enemy), but it will not affect him, and they shall say it rolls off of him like the duck, for as the feathers of a duck protect it, so shall my feathers protect this next president. Even mainstream news media will be captivated by this man and the abilities that I have gifted him with, and they will even begin to agree with him says the Spirit of God." (Mr. Mark Taylor, April 28, 2011)


www.sordrescue.com/

 

[fncceo]

but Americans are no longer able to work together to solve complicated problems.

They work together to create AI systems. That’s a pretty complicated problem.

 

[buttercup]

Straight from the horse's mouth....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I believe that President Trump for all of his many flaws has been set up by his life story to play a critical role in USA and world history.

I believe that events of his past prepared him to understand how high interest rates are being used to turn three hundred and fifty million Americans into slaves to debt and taxes.

I believe that President Trump learned about the dangers of high interest rates from his own personal experiences.

If I remember correctly you pretty well have to go back in that article to around 2015 to find this quotation. BigMedia does not want you to know about this detail of his life so far.

I believe that President Trump learned about the dangers of high interest rates from his own personal experiences.

You think interest rates are too high, but you're in favor of governments printing a lot more money.

 

[braalian]

most of the jobs being made redundant by AI are silly, frivolous office jobs, anyway

 

[DennisPTate]

most of the jobs being made redundant by AI are silly, frivolous office jobs, anyway

I have to admit that I sure am hoping that you are correct about this. So far, you are right but five or ten years from now the situation could be so different?

 

[DennisPTate]

Will if you believe that you are going to be made obsolete by a robot, I'd suggest that you buy a robot.

Instead of saving to send your kids to off to college, buy them robots that will make a living for them.

There is more to this topic though. China is a "Technocratic State" so we can learn a lot about the basic idea from looking at China.





"Derrick Broze, The Pyramid of Power, The Technocratic State."

 

[DennisPTate]

You believe!

Yes, and Rabbi Jonathan Cahn does a great job of explaining how some pretty amazing coincidences seem to be happening around President Trump?




and....

 

[Leo123]

The rather brilliant Mo Gawdat does believe that B. M. I. is one of the only ways to prevent a pandemic of homelessness and poverty as robotics and A. I. make so many careers nearly obsolete.

I happen to believe that he is correct but I have some suggestions as to how this shift can be done in such a way that the greatest boom in PRODUCTIVITY of workers will be set in motion that will lead to the greatest economic boom that has ever been seen.





I believe that Economist Milton Friedman set the intellectual stage for what must happen next.




Now... it is important to not set this up in such a way that produces some sort of "Mark of the Beast" situation. Near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley was shown one version of how that error could well be made.

Musk says there will be personal, human like robots and there will be as many of them or more than humans.