Will Putin "Stop after Ukraine"?

What is REALLY STUPID is throwing Ukranians into the graveyard to fill the pockets of Western war machines and their patrons in Congress. War was always an option...why was it chosen first?
The answer is easy.
What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

Russia started the war, not Ukraine.

Ukranians made the decision to fight invaders, instead of living under Kremlin’s repressive boot. They ask for our material help to defend their country and we provide it.
 
For many years Progs like yourself demeaned anyone who were in favor of war. Now you are in favor of war. All of the 60's anti war songs sung from those still living mean nothing for them also. They are pro war....Oh their going to irradiate Leningrad, with helmets on their heads...
Marching orders....from the banks to the political parties...then from the parties to the lemmings.
 
It is a common theme of the Uniparty that when Putin is done with Ukraine, he will invade and attack some other country, then on and on until he re-establishes the old USSR.

In my tiny little mind, there is a major factor in this scenario that has not been given full consideration, and it is this:

Putin wouldn't dare attack a NATO country!

Doing so would unleash a firestorm that would render his pathetic fiefdom into a massive Stone Age village. And he must know that.

As for the dozens of little shit-hole countries that surround the Russian Federation, who really gives a shit if he invades them?

In short, the main threat cited by the Uniparty is nonsense. Our actions w/r/t Ukraine should focus on that situation entirely, and the solution will not be had with more funding, but rather forcing both parties to the bargaining table, knowing that neither one is going to get everything it wants.
if he did attack nato it would be b/c prior to this event he was able to divide and create discord among the countries; before he did it.
 
What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

Ukranians made the decision to fight invaders, instead of living under Kremlin’s repressive boot.
No they didn't....it was made for them. Annnnnd repressive boot is not what the original agreement entailed. It was as simple as agreeing to stay neutral. But then again Z-Coke got a nice big fat bonus to burn his country down.
 
No they didn't....it was made for them. Annnnnd repressive boot is not what the original agreement entailed. It was as simple as agreeing to stay neutral. But then again Z-Coke got a nice big fat bonus to burn his country down.
Like I said, you are fucked in the head, posting ignorant nutbag bullshit and Russian propaganda.

Zelenskyy was offered to run, he stayed and fought off Russian Kiev offensive like a true patriot.
 
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It is a common theme of the Uniparty that when Putin is done with Ukraine, he will invade and attack some other country, then on and on until he re-establishes the old USSR.

In my tiny little mind, there is a major factor in this scenario that has not been given full consideration, and it is this:

Putin wouldn't dare attack a NATO country!

Doing so would unleash a firestorm that would render his pathetic fiefdom into a massive Stone Age village. And he must know that.

As for the dozens of little shit-hole countries that surround the Russian Federation, who really gives a shit if he invades them?

In short, the main threat cited by the Uniparty is nonsense. Our actions w/r/t Ukraine should focus on that situation entirely, and the solution will not be had with more funding, but rather forcing both parties to the bargaining table, knowing that neither one is going to get everything it wants.
The war is bankrupting russia, which was s poor country to begin with

So win or lose Putin will not be invading anyone on his borders in the near future

But naked aggression by dictators such as him deserve to be resisted by free people everywhere when possible
 
It is a common theme of the Uniparty that when Putin is done with Ukraine, he will invade and attack some other country, then on and on until he re-establishes the old USSR.

In my tiny little mind, there is a major factor in this scenario that has not been given full consideration, and it is this:

Putin wouldn't dare attack a NATO country!

Doing so would unleash a firestorm that would render his pathetic fiefdom into a massive Stone Age village. And he must know that.

As for the dozens of little shit-hole countries that surround the Russian Federation, who really gives a shit if he invades them?

In short, the main threat cited by the Uniparty is nonsense. Our actions w/r/t Ukraine should focus on that situation entirely, and the solution will not be had with more funding, but rather forcing both parties to the bargaining table, knowing that neither one is going to get everything it wants.
Of course not , He's undermining dozens of nations as we speak. If he is successful in defeating the Ukraine , we will live to regret it beyond words. The potential for WWIII has never been greater. And he's attempting to form a new AXIS power alliance. It's totally the opposite of wanting peace and freedom.
 
if he did attack nato it would be b/c prior to this event he was able to divide and create discord among the countries; before he did it.
What do.you think he's doing right now , causing all those problems in dozens of countries , including our own. We're all targets.
 
What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

Russia started the war, not Ukraine.

Ukranians made the decision to fight invaders, instead of living under Kremlin’s repressive boot. They ask for our material help to defend their country and we provide it.
Long before they invaded Russia stirred up the ethnic Russians living in the Ukraine and armed them. They started ALL the troubles the Ukraine has.
 
But just how big a lunatic is he. Americans have to deal with trump. Russians need to deal with Putin.

Russia’s problems are now much bigger than Putin and most of them are between their ears.

80% have a slave mindset, almost fully checked out of politics, and can’t tell a corrupt authoritarian state from a law based open democracy.

They don’t understand the fundamental importance of freedom of speech and do not recognize repressions and violations of personal rights as a fundamental problem in Russia that is destroying its future.

Russia’s leadership has now detached itself from the political consequences of their actions.
 
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The Democrats are being played the same way the Republicans (myself included) were played during the second Iraq invasion.

Once you've fallen for it, it's much easier to recognize.

The Government under the control of your party says "we gotta do this thing".

Now it becomes part of your party identity. Got to defend your leader...because he's up for reelection!

Now a loss becomes an embarrassment to the leader and the party. Could cost you the election!

Sunk cost. Gotta keep defending it. Keep regurgitation propaganda. Yellow cake uranium...Putin is going to attack baltic states. Same-same...just another tool to push for war.

A war for ... you guessed it....oil...and natural gas.
 
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Sure what you're saying makes perfect sense....IF.....that is all they wanted. Think a little harder. Control of the resources is worth far more than the purchase of it. China is looking at a Russian land grab at this point.
Russia has been a subversive threat for years ,now that it's become an overt threat to nations by invading a neighbor that can no longer be tolerated. The nuisance is now a threat to US all.
 
Everything Russia has done in Ukraine is consistent with protecting its security interests. If it wanted to add Ukraine to its "empire," why didn't it invade the entire country?
Because they were stopped by the Ukrainians. You have a short memory. Their losses were far too.many. Entire regiments were destroyed or captured , others simply surrendered. They were very poorly maintained , running out of supplies left and right. Being a war captive was a better scenario in many cases.
 
Long before they invaded Russia stirred up the ethnic Russians living in the Ukraine and armed them. They started ALL the troubles the Ukraine has.
Russia invaded Ukraine in Feb 2014, annexing Crimea.

That was followed by Russian Spring - irregular Russian forces crossing into Ukraine, igniting war in eastern Ukraine and capturing cities like Sloviansk.
 
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Russia’s problems are now much bigger than Putin and most of them are between their ears.

80% have a slave mindset, almost fully checked out of politics, and can’t tell a corrupt authoritarian state from a law based open democracy.

They don’t understand the fundamental importance of freedom of speech and do not recognize repressions and violations of personal rights as a fundamental problem in Russia that is destroying its future.

Russia’s leadership has now detached itself from the political consequences of their actions.
In other words they have sealed their fate. Russian leaders that don't help the Russian people tend to disappear or end up dead.
 
The level of misinformation and downright ignorance in this thread , by many doubtless patriotic US individuals living in the past and feeding from western MSM , is profound .

Some key points
1. The US and West has been entrained to believe that Russia invaded Ukraine , based on complete ignorance of NATO action in the previous 30 years and particularly since 2014 .
Ukraine had been building its military to invade Donbas for eight years and the Minsk agreements had been totally ignored by NATO, as Merkel publicly admitted .
The UAF had attacked Donbas every single day killing up to 15000 people with lots of pillage and other war crimes throughout .
The UAF was about to invade Donbas days after Russia took defensive action, with a ground force that initially was twice the size of the Russian force .
Just before Feb24 , 2022 , UAF shelling of Donbas went up from ca . 200 to nearly 2000 per day .
As we say , a huge hint .

So the actuality was effectively that the "NATO gun man" announced it was going kill its Russian opponent in ten seconds but got shot itself when the count- down reached two .
If that represents Invasion , then there is an insurmountable gulf in General Comprehension .

2. There were over 30 bio labs in Ukraine funded and built by the US between 2010 and 2014 .
The CIA also created 12 different Spy Centres on the Russian border, as just days ago admitted and detailed by the NYT .
In itself just cause for a huge response .

3 .Russia no longer has need to invade another country to control it .
You do it through finance , broadly following the pattern used by China all over the world but most notably in Africa .

4. Russia is the most wealthy major nation because it is self sufficient from all natural resources .
It has no need for imports unless it chooses .
No other major power can boast that .

5. It would defeat NATO militarily easily at this point .
It has set itself up to have more arms and weapons with a supply and distribution system which matches that objective .
It would take some time for this advantage to be cancelled . Two to three years is best expert opinion .

Russia's air supremacy is overwhelming becaue like China it is probably a decade ahead with Hyper Sonic missiles .
Currently there is no defense against Kinzhal and Avrogard missiles at up to 30 000 miles per hour .

So .A few facts based on solid evidence .
From an informed woman geo-political analyst living in SE England and not a "Putin lover "or having any personal or business ties or connections with Russia now , or , in the past . English born and bred even though the UK role in matters is much greater and dirtier than widely recognised ,
Another thread . Another time .
 
For many years Progs like yourself demeaned anyone who were in favor of war. Now you are in favor of war. All of the 60's anti war songs sung from those still living mean nothing for them also. They are pro war....Oh their going to irradiate Leningrad, with helmets on their heads...
Progressives have never been against defensive wars like WWII. Aggressive wars like Vietnam are very different. Russia is fighting an aggressive war, Ukraine is fighting a defensive war. It is easy to tell the difference, just look at whose soldiers are in their own country and whose are in a foreign country.
 
Everything Russia has done in Ukraine is consistent with protecting its security interests. If it wanted to add Ukraine to its "empire," why didn't it invade the entire country?
It did. It tried to take Kiev and would have installed a puppet government there if it had succeeded.
 

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