Will Economy be the primary driver for voters?
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Lesh
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That’s stupid. VPs have little to no actual power. They are placeholders.
By all statistical evaluations we are doing very well. Better than the rest of the world and people have record wealth, record income, and with that comes record expenses. People have psychological reactions to change and making more and spending more is poorly processed by people. That’s why we shouldn’t have fools like Trump in office.
The economy is strong, data shows. Why do so many Americans think otherwise? - Poynter
Unemployment is near record lows. Job creation is robust. The economy is growing, driven by consumer spending. The stock market has hit record highs.
www.poynter.org
Why people think the economy is doing worse than it is
We explore six studies that help explain the disconnect between how national economies are doing and how people perceive those economies.
journalistsresource.org
If this is a bad economy, please tell me what a good economy would look like
We should acknowledge that things are going well, even as we continue to look for problems to solve.
www.noahpinion.blog
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Very close. Many family members not speaking to one another. Media has divided us
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Why the hell do you keep posting stats, that are useless? I am talking about real life experiences. If things are so great why is your party pushing debt forgiveness and why do polls reflect that people see themselves as worse now than they were in 2019? You can’t even respond like a human. A friend of mine lost his job. 28 yrs with the same company. Twins going to college. Should I post links for him and tell him he is doing fine?By all statistical evaluations we are doing very well. Better than the rest of the world and people have record wealth, record income, and with that comes record expenses. People have psychological reactions to change and making more and spending more is poorly processed by people. That’s why we shouldn’t have fools like Trump in office.
The economy is strong, data shows. Why do so many Americans think otherwise? - Poynter
Unemployment is near record lows. Job creation is robust. The economy is growing, driven by consumer spending. The stock market has hit record highs.
Why people think the economy is doing worse than it is
We explore six studies that help explain the disconnect between how national economies are doing and how people perceive those economies.
If this is a bad economy, please tell me what a good economy would look like
We should acknowledge that things are going well, even as we continue to look for problems to solve.
Another lost his job after being with the same company for 15 yrs. Four kids.
Are you even human?
‘A tale of 2 economies': Wages are going up. Why do we feel like we can't afford anything?
A majority of Americans, around 64%, saw an increase in wages between October 2022 and October 2023. But if most workers saw bigger paychecks, why do so many people still feel like everything is too expensive?
www.nbcwashington.com
I did explain it. There are sad stories in every economy.Why the hell do you keep posting stats, that are useless? I am talking about real life experiences. If things are so great why is your party pushing debt forgiveness and why do polls reflect that people see themselves as worse now than they were in 2019? You can’t even respond like a human. A friend of mine lost his job. 28 yrs with the same company. Twins going to college. Should I post links for him and tell him he is doing fine?
Another lost his job after being with the same company for 15 yrs. Four kids.
Are you even human?
‘A tale of 2 economies': Wages are going up. Why do we feel like we can't afford anything?
A majority of Americans, around 64%, saw an increase in wages between October 2022 and October 2023. But if most workers saw bigger paychecks, why do so many people still feel like everything is too expensive?
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO BE SERIOUS you’d actually address the real issue in America which in inequity. The Top 10% have consolidated $75T more wealth at the expense of the bottom 90%. In aggregate we are very prosperous but those at the bottom struggle in 2024 like they did in 2019 like they did in 2009 like they did in 1999.
The things that address inequity to help those at the bottom are pissed on by you and the GOP. You really think there isn’t enough pie when there is enough pie… it’s just all being eaten at the top.
Real solutions:
- Minimum wage increases
- Guaranteed healthcare
- Childcare option
- Affordable education and post high school skill development for non-grads
- Significantly reworked tax structure to move more burden to the top
The Richest 1 Percent Now Own a Greater Share of the Stock Market Than Ever Before
Baby bonds are one effective strategy for addressing the fact that only 1 percent of stock market wealth is owned by the bottom half of households.
inequality.org
If We Want Better Care, We Need a Better Tax Code
If the wealthiest paid their fair share, we could easily fund better child care, elder care, and health care for the rest of us.
inequality.org
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Zuckerberg, Bezos, Gates, Buffet, Cuban, Swift. Democrats. Billionaires.I did explain it. There are sad stories in every economy.
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO BE SERIOUS you’d actually address the real issue in America which in inequity. The Top 10% have consolidated $75T more wealth at the expense of the bottom 90%. In aggregate we are very prosperous but those at the bottom struggle in 2024 like they did in 2019 like they did in 2009 like they did in 1999.
The things that address inequity to help those at the bottom are pissed on by you and the GOP. You really think there isn’t enough pie when there is enough pie… it’s just all being eaten at the top.
Real solutions:
- Minimum wage increases
- Guaranteed healthcare
- Childcare option
- Affordable education and post high school skill development for non-grads
- Significantly reworked tax structure to move more burden to the top
The Richest 1 Percent Now Own a Greater Share of the Stock Market Than Ever Before
Baby bonds are one effective strategy for addressing the fact that only 1 percent of stock market wealth is owned by the bottom half of households.
If We Want Better Care, We Need a Better Tax Code
If the wealthiest paid their fair share, we could easily fund better child care, elder care, and health care for the rest of us.
Rich people love Democrats. Since Democrats cause inflation, it allows them to raise prices on their businesses or businesses they heavily invest in and the rich get richer.
- Min wage increases cause inflation should be free markets
- Free healthcare for all. Causes inflation.
- Free childcare. Causes inflation.
- Affordable education. UMass Amherst. MA is a deep blue states. The bluest actually. $37k per year. How do you explain that? State school.
- Top taxpayers already pay the vast majority of taxes. Keep taxing em and it causes more inflation.
Now can we talk as humans or are you going to post more useless links. The examples I gave you were people who worked most of their lives. Many business owners will downsize people if Harris wins. My clients told me as such.
You see the paradox you’re in right? You complain about those struggling but oppose anything to address their issues.
Inflation was caused in 2021 by supply shortages and labor shortages. Not any republican or democrat policy.
The GOP expects you to be dumb and believe anything that is good for the bottom and bad for the top is bad. You’re all in. I mean you have no idea what drove inflation you’re just sure it’s dems cuz fuck them. The gop owns you because you let them.
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Inflation was caused by the war on fossil fuels and opening the gates to 20mil illegals.
You truly don’t understand basic economics. I asked You in the past. Tell me something you dislike about the Democratic Party policies and crickets. Youre a sycophant
Ridiculous. Record oil output. Freight costs are only about 4% of a goods cost with gasoline not even half the freight cost so it can’t drive that much inflation. Basically if gas doubled you see less than 2% higher costs.
Immigration is a moronic answer.
In 2021 we had a supply disruption and labor shortage. That caused inflation.
It’s clear you don’t know what you’re talking about.
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Fuel costs are 2x higher at least. Immigration is a huge cost and because we give free $$$ to illegals they become consumers and that spikes inflation. The supply chain excuse is long gone.
You don’t know and you also refuse to answer my question. Sycophant
Fuel costs before Covid were $2.65. They are $3.30 now. That would add about 1% to product costs over 5 years, so one quarter percent a year. You have no idea how math works. Have you ever made anything for sale ever? Apparently not. Fuel costs are barely registering for inflation.
Immigration lowers wages and lowers costs.
Listen. You’re just wildly posting talking points you can’t back up. I suggest informing yourself.
I think the Democrats should have removed the tariffs on China to lower costs but they feel republicans would accuse them of being soft on China so they keep these inefficient taxes in place. Tariffs are regressive and hurt Americans. They know this but wussed out do to politics.
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$2.65!? $1.89 for me. I did back them up. People don’t like where the economy is headed. You not I are the minority. I do This for a living.
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OMG so you don’t want fair trade deals?
You asked if i disagree with democrats. I am a free trade and free market guy. The GOP used to be that way when I was in it before it went to shit.
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China pays slave labor wages and destroys the environment so they have a distinct advantage. So your only criticism of libs is that they did not repeal a Trump policy? Wow
You asked for one. I provided one. Noted that you have provided no real drivers of inflation.
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Why is Kommiela running on fixing all that “On Day 1”?By all statistical evaluations we are doing very well. Better than the rest of the world and people have record wealth, record income, and with that comes record expenses. People have psychological reactions to change and making more and spending more is poorly processed by people. That’s why we shouldn’t have fools like Trump in office.
The economy is strong, data shows. Why do so many Americans think otherwise? - Poynter
Unemployment is near record lows. Job creation is robust. The economy is growing, driven by consumer spending. The stock market has hit record highs.
Why people think the economy is doing worse than it is
We explore six studies that help explain the disconnect between how national economies are doing and how people perceive those economies.
If this is a bad economy, please tell me what a good economy would look like
We should acknowledge that things are going well, even as we continue to look for problems to solve.
Link?
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