Will Economy be the primary driver for voters?

[citygator]

More than a billion.

If I own a meat packing plant, I am paying more for heat, refrigeration, electricity and transportation. Significantly more and those costs are passed on to the distributors and they to the supermarkets. Has your heating and cooling bill not increased? Mine has. Now multiply all that by 1000s. You don’t know basic lending or Econ. I lend Money. Do you!?

No

STFU

You are fucktarded. The ENTIRE energy industry is 6% of economy. Energy prices are up 29% since 2019 in five years. So even without wage increases you'd see a 2% price increase from energy (6% X 29%) and that is over 5 years. Its about half a percent a year. But guess what? Wages are up 25% since 2019 so relative to income is up about one half of one quarter percent.

You might be as dumb as Nostradumbass and I thought that was impossible.

 

[citygator]

What's driving the US economy? Bidenomics:

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Being an alpha male has nothing to do with it. What a weak cop out

That’s exactly what it is. You don’t like his rhetoric. His policies were great

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You are fucktarded. The ENTIRE energy industry is 6% of economy. Energy prices are up 29% since 2019 in five years. So even without wage increases you'd see a 2% price increase from energy (6% X 29%) and that is over 5 years. Its about half a percent a year. But guess what? Wages are up 25% since 2019 so relative to income is up about one half of one quarter percent.

You might be as dumb as Nostradumbass and I thought that was impossible.

Whose wages are up 25%? What is this pie in the sky number? You don’t know basic Econ and you have never lent a penny in your life. 29% is ridiculously high

 

[citygator]

Whose wages are up 25%? What is this pie in the sky number? You don’t know basic Econ and you have never lent a penny in your life. 29% is ridiculously high

Wages are now up more than prices since Biden came into office.

Wages shot up in 2020 under Trump leading to inflation in 2021 making it look like it was a Biden administration issue and the public was happy to blame him. No longer though:

It’s official: America’s real wages are up under Biden-Harris (thehill.com)

With inflation easing, the wages of working-class Americans are finally moving into the plus column. Average hourly pay for production and nonsupervisory workers — who make up four-fifths of employees — hit $30.27 in August, according to the latest report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

According to my organization’s analysis, working-class Americans’ wages, adjusted for inflation, have just edged higher than they were on Election Day, 2020. The average working-class American can now answer “Yes” to the question, “Are you better off now than you were under Donald Trump?”

That’s obviously important for political symbolism. But the milestone for real wages also explains a lot about why Americans have felt so badly oppressed by inflation up to now. The price of food and housing matters, but they matter more if price increases exceed wage gains.

Part of the reason President Biden’s campaign was fighting an economic headwind was the drop in average real wages in 2021 and 2022 due to the burst of inflation. No wonder voters didn’t trust Biden on the economy, despite the low unemployment rate and strong GDP growth.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Wages are now up more than prices since Biden came into office.

Wages shot up in 2020 under Trump leading to inflation in 2021 making it look like it was a Biden administration issue and the public was happy to blame him. No longer though:

It’s official: America’s real wages are up under Biden-Harris (thehill.com)

With inflation easing, the wages of working-class Americans are finally moving into the plus column. Average hourly pay for production and nonsupervisory workers — who make up four-fifths of employees — hit $30.27 in August, according to the latest report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

According to my organization’s analysis, working-class Americans’ wages, adjusted for inflation, have just edged higher than they were on Election Day, 2020. The average working-class American can now answer “Yes” to the question, “Are you better off now than you were under Donald Trump?”

That’s obviously important for political symbolism. But the milestone for real wages also explains a lot about why Americans have felt so badly oppressed by inflation up to now. The price of food and housing matters, but they matter more if price increases exceed wage gains.

Part of the reason President Biden’s campaign was fighting an economic headwind was the drop in average real wages in 2021 and 2022 due to the burst of inflation. No wonder voters didn’t trust Biden on the economy, despite the low unemployment rate and strong GDP growth.

OMG more propaganda. You wealthy elites are so out of touch with reality

‘A tale of 2 economies': Wages are going up. Why do we feel like we can't afford anything?

A majority of Americans, around 64%, saw an increase in wages between October 2022 and October 2023. But if most workers saw bigger paychecks, why do so many people still feel like everything is too expensive?

www.nbcwashington.com

 

[citygator]

Whose wages are up 25%? What is this pie in the sky number? You don’t know basic Econ and you have never lent a penny in your life. 29% is ridiculously high

Listen, your telemarketing job trying to sell timeshares isn’t high finance fucktard. You still think energy prices drove a lot of inflation and don’t even realize that we are more energy independent than we have ever been. We produce so much energy that gas and prices are plummeting. Shortly you are going to see energy companies cut back because they are going broke from such low prices. LNG liquids have been negatively priced 5 days this year… that only happened one day under trump and everyone panicked. Prices are low and falling.

 

[citygator]

OMG more propaganda. You wealthy elites are so out of touch with reality

‘A tale of 2 economies': Wages are going up. Why do we feel like we can't afford anything?

A majority of Americans, around 64%, saw an increase in wages between October 2022 and October 2023. But if most workers saw bigger paychecks, why do so many people still feel like everything is too expensive?

www.nbcwashington.com

You never discuss actual facts. You are all emotion. That’s probably why you left for a while.. emotion. Try facts.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Listen, your telemarketing job trying to sell timeshares isn’t high finance fucktard. You still think energy prices drove a lot of inflation and don’t even realize that we are more energy independent than we have ever been. We produce so much energy that gas and prices are plummeting. Shortly you are going to see energy companies cut back because they are going broke from such low prices. LNG liquids have been negatively priced 5 days this year… that only happened one day under trump and everyone panicked. Prices are low and falling.

You know that’s not what I do. When you’re ready to converse like an adult, ping me.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You never discuss actual facts. You are all emotion. That’s probably why you left for a while.. emotion. Try facts.

Showed you facts. I work in facts. Did you even read the article? My goodness. You’re wealthy with a trophy wife and out of touch with reality.

 

[Slade3200]

That’s exactly what it is. You don’t like his rhetoric. His policies were great

His rhetoric was despicable, divisive and not representative of what I want my nations leader to represent. That has nothing to do with being alpha male. It has to do with his words and actions

 

[Nostra]

Quoting yourself instead of me? What a moron. You are dumber than Biden. You may be Trump level stupid.

I'll return with my proposal explained for a 4 year old brain of yours but right now I need to run my company for the next few hours.

Cliff notes is shifting a few percentages up the ladder to alleviate those at the bottom of the ladder will drive more value and better outcomes.

Still cant elaborate what a fair share for the rich is, huh Simp.

OK, get back to your lemonade stand

 

[citygator]

Still cant elaborate what a fair share for the rich is, huh Simp.

OK, get back to your lemonade stand

Paying equal taxes on capital gains as you do on labor is "fair". I'll at least stomach Harris' plan to close the gap a bit.

• 28% tax on long-term capital gains, or sales of assets owned for more than one year, for those making more than $1 million annually.
• Raise the net investment income tax to 5%, top earners would pay a combined rate of 33%.

 

[Nostra]

What's driving the US economy? Bidenomics:

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Private mfg.

So what does Tater have to do with that? be specific

 

[Nostra]

Paying equal taxes on capital gains as you do on labor is "fair". I'll at least stomach Harris' plan to close the gap a bit.

• 28% tax on long-term capital gains, or sales of assets owned for more than one year, for those making more than $1 million annually.
• Raise the net investment income tax to 5%, top earners would pay a combined rate of 33%.

Define rich now.

 

[citygator]

Showed you facts. I work in facts. Did you even read the article? My goodness. You’re wealthy with a trophy wife and out of touch with reality.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Some random guy? You said I was a telemarketer. That’s not what I do. Until you can act like an adult, GFY and troll elsewhere. Economy is so great the Fed dropped the Fed funds rate 50bps. Spare me you ignorance

 

[citygator]

Some random guy? You said I was a telemarketer. That’s not what I do. Until you can act like an adult, GFY and troll elsewhere. Economy is so great the Fed dropped the Fed funds rate 50bps. Spare me you ignorance

That is an energy sector expert who provides non partisan assessment of the industry. He thinks green subsidies are too high as a criticism of the left but he calls the right on their bullshit because there is much of it. He just showed you that the energy bills are being raised for profits not because of the all time low prices of natural gas.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

That is an energy sector expert who provides non partisan assessment of the industry. He thinks green subsidies are too high as a criticism of the left but he calls the right on their bullshit because there is much of it. He just showed you that the energy bills are being raised for profits not because of the all time low prices of natural gas.

OMG you truly are dumb. Again, until you can act like an adult, GFY.

 

[citygator]

OMG you truly are dumb. Again, until you can act like an adult, GFY.

What was dumb? You do know natural gas is cheaper than just about ever right now right? Trump was mostly at $3 and we are under $2.

Henry Hub Natural Gas Spot Price (Dollars per Million Btu)

www.eia.gov