Will Democrats re-enter the mainstream?

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Dems won in 2006 and 2008 by taking abortion and gun rights off the table and running as mainstream Americans. Once in office of course it was the most radical expansion of the state since FDR. Now the biggest voices in the Dem party seek to out-commie each other, blaming big business for every evil under the sun and trying to tax them into oblivion. It obviously isnt working. The GOP sweep last fall was pretty horrifying for the Dems. Even safe seats got wiped out.
Will the Dems pull a Clinton and pivot to the center, rejoining the rest of America as a place where property rights and religious freedom are valued? Or will they spin off the edge into obscurity?
 

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Dems won in 2006 and 2008 by taking abortion and gun rights off the table and running as mainstream Americans. Once in office of course it was the most radical expansion of the state since FDR. Now the biggest voices in the Dem party seek to out-commie each other, blaming big business for every evil under the sun and trying to tax them into oblivion. It obviously isnt working. The GOP sweep last fall was pretty horrifying for the Dems. Even safe seats got wiped out.
Will the Dems pull a Clinton and pivot to the center, rejoining the rest of America as a place where property rights and religious freedom are valued? Or will they spin off the edge into obscurity?
Premise = DOA.

The Dems aren't doing what you want but they also aren't doing what the American people want, which is way worse for you than what you think they are doing currently.

Gun control, Immigration reform, the end of Gitmo, the end of the War on Terror, Green energy, more reforms of banking and things too big to fail, peace between Israel and Palestine, you name it and they want it but you won't like it. Be glad they GOP-lite. You'd be screwed otherwise since this is not a nation for your kind, and never was meant to be.
 

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Dems won in 2006 and 2008 by taking abortion and gun rights off the table and running as mainstream Americans. Once in office of course it was the most radical expansion of the state since FDR. Now the biggest voices in the Dem party seek to out-commie each other, blaming big business for every evil under the sun and trying to tax them into oblivion. It obviously isnt working. The GOP sweep last fall was pretty horrifying for the Dems. Even safe seats got wiped out.
Will the Dems pull a Clinton and pivot to the center, rejoining the rest of America as a place where property rights and religious freedom are valued? Or will they spin off the edge into obscurity?
Premise = DOA.

The Dems aren't doing what you want but they also aren't doing what the American people want, which is way worse for you than what you think they are doing currently.

Gun control, Immigration reform, the end of Gitmo, the end of the War on Terror, Green energy, more reforms of banking and things too big to fail, peace between Israel and Palestine, you name it and they want it but you won't like it. Be glad they GOP-lite. You'd be screwed otherwise since this is not a nation for your kind, and never was meant to be.
If only one side ends a war...Does that mean that the other side stops attempting to bite at our heels? Also Palestine will never have peace with Israel. Forget it.
 

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Most states are actually leaning more to the left. Issues like gay marriage are no longer even being challenged by the right, this is actually working towards the GOPs favor, though. They tend to be quite mum on social issues -- good idea, as liberal attitudes seem to becoming actually more omnipresent.
 

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Dems won in 2006 and 2008 by taking abortion and gun rights off the table and running as mainstream Americans. Once in office of course it was the most radical expansion of the state since FDR. Now the biggest voices in the Dem party seek to out-commie each other, blaming big business for every evil under the sun and trying to tax them into oblivion. It obviously isnt working. The GOP sweep last fall was pretty horrifying for the Dems. Even safe seats got wiped out.
Will the Dems pull a Clinton and pivot to the center, rejoining the rest of America as a place where property rights and religious freedom are valued? Or will they spin off the edge into obscurity?
Premise = DOA.

The Dems aren't doing what you want but they also aren't doing what the American people want, which is way worse for you than what you think they are doing currently.

Gun control, Immigration reform, the end of Gitmo, the end of the War on Terror, Green energy, more reforms of banking and things too big to fail, peace between Israel and Palestine, you name it and they want it but you won't like it. Be glad they GOP-lite. You'd be screwed otherwise since this is not a nation for your kind, and never was meant to be.
If only one side ends a war...Does that mean that the other side stops attempting to bite at our heels? Also Palestine will never have peace with Israel. Forget it.
Of course not, because the Zionists want all the land that the rightful owners are still sitting on. The Nazi Squatters are not about to stop but the American people don't know that, since they are as dumb as dog shit. Still, what they want would be fluffy bunny's worst nightmare.
 
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Dems won in 2006 and 2008 by taking abortion and gun rights off the table and running as mainstream Americans. Once in office of course it was the most radical expansion of the state since FDR. Now the biggest voices in the Dem party seek to out-commie each other, blaming big business for every evil under the sun and trying to tax them into oblivion. It obviously isnt working. The GOP sweep last fall was pretty horrifying for the Dems. Even safe seats got wiped out.
Will the Dems pull a Clinton and pivot to the center, rejoining the rest of America as a place where property rights and religious freedom are valued? Or will they spin off the edge into obscurity?
Premise = DOA.

The Dems aren't doing what you want but they also aren't doing what the American people want, which is way worse for you than what you think they are doing currently.

Gun control, Immigration reform, the end of Gitmo, the end of the War on Terror, Green energy, more reforms of banking and things too big to fail, peace between Israel and Palestine, you name it and they want it but you won't like it. Be glad they GOP-lite. You'd be screwed otherwise since this is not a nation for your kind, and never was meant to be.
Thats why they swept the last election, right?
 
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Most states are actually leaning more to the left. Issues like gay marriage are no longer even being challenged by the right, this is actually working towards the GOPs favor, though. They tend to be quite mum on social issues -- good idea, as liberal attitudes seem to becoming actually more omnipresent.
Thats why Colorado is looking to roll back their stupid gun control laws?
/fail.
 

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Dems won in 2006 and 2008 by taking abortion and gun rights off the table and running as mainstream Americans. Once in office of course it was the most radical expansion of the state since FDR. Now the biggest voices in the Dem party seek to out-commie each other, blaming big business for every evil under the sun and trying to tax them into oblivion. It obviously isnt working. The GOP sweep last fall was pretty horrifying for the Dems. Even safe seats got wiped out.
Will the Dems pull a Clinton and pivot to the center, rejoining the rest of America as a place where property rights and religious freedom are valued? Or will they spin off the edge into obscurity?
Premise = DOA.

The Dems aren't doing what you want but they also aren't doing what the American people want, which is way worse for you than what you think they are doing currently.

Gun control, Immigration reform, the end of Gitmo, the end of the War on Terror, Green energy, more reforms of banking and things too big to fail, peace between Israel and Palestine, you name it and they want it but you won't like it. Be glad they GOP-lite. You'd be screwed otherwise since this is not a nation for your kind, and never was meant to be.
Thats why they swept the last election, right?
It's two-party system and the loss was expected. How long before you learn that and that here it's always throw the bums out. In two years, you're the bums.
 

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Dems won in 2006 and 2008 by taking abortion and gun rights off the table and running as mainstream Americans. Once in office of course it was the most radical expansion of the state since FDR. Now the biggest voices in the Dem party seek to out-commie each other, blaming big business for every evil under the sun and trying to tax them into oblivion. It obviously isnt working. The GOP sweep last fall was pretty horrifying for the Dems. Even safe seats got wiped out.
Will the Dems pull a Clinton and pivot to the center, rejoining the rest of America as a place where property rights and religious freedom are valued? Or will they spin off the edge into obscurity?
No.
 

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Dems won in 2006 and 2008 by taking abortion and gun rights off the table and running as mainstream Americans. Once in office of course it was the most radical expansion of the state since FDR. Now the biggest voices in the Dem party seek to out-commie each other, blaming big business for every evil under the sun and trying to tax them into oblivion. It obviously isnt working. The GOP sweep last fall was pretty horrifying for the Dems. Even safe seats got wiped out.
Will the Dems pull a Clinton and pivot to the center, rejoining the rest of America as a place where property rights and religious freedom are valued? Or will they spin off the edge into obscurity?
Which safe Senate seats did the Democrats lose in 2014?
 

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I don't recall Sharron Angle, the anti-abortion extremist who touted the 2nd amendment 'remedies', doing very well against Harry Reid.
 

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The Rabbi and AvgGuy are not mainstream Americans, only outliers.

If the GOP wants to win in 2016, it must cut the far right loose and reach meaningful to millennials, women, and minorities, the real mainstream of America.
 

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Most states are actually leaning more to the left. Issues like gay marriage are no longer even being challenged by the right, this is actually working towards the GOPs favor, though. They tend to be quite mum on social issues -- good idea, as liberal attitudes seem to becoming actually more omnipresent.
Thats why Colorado is looking to roll back their stupid gun control laws?
/fail.
Is that why the GOP will no longer touch gay marriage or run on the antiabortion platform?

Their "looking to roll them back?"

What exactly does THAT mean, Einstein?
 

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