Will Dem Rep Karen Bass of California be one of the liars sued by Kyle Rittenhouse?

[Dragonlady]

haha the judge never said the State couldn’t call them victims

but he cerainly allowed the defense to call them what they were…rioters

typical you have no clue what you are talking about and making things up.

these folks weren’t protesting…burning buildings, assaulting people, destroying property isn’t protesting

and they weren’t rioting over anything rhe “right wing” did they were rioting became misleading, lying propaganda about a just police shooting of a man going after his girlfriend with a knife

Yes he did.

Prosecutors cannot call those shot by Kyle Rittenhouse 'victims.' But 'looters' is OK

The defense may also call them "arsonists," the judge ruled. The criminal trial of Rittenhouse, the teenager who shot and killed two protesters in Kenosha, Wis., begins next week.

www.npr.org

Typical that I can back up everything that I post with a link.

This kid wasn't protecting anything. He was running around looking "cool". It was like playing Call of Duty but for real!!! It he was protecting that garage, why didn't he stay there. When the area was cleared, why did he run into the area where the protestors were hemmed in, and sneak around the police lines.

This is like George Zimmerman claiming self defense after he stalked an unarmed kid with a gun he wasn't supposed to have, and when the skinny kid tried to defend himself from this fat pervy guy following him home, George murdered him.

I expect Kyle to turn out just as well as George. I can't hardly wait for his porno film.

 

[Dragonlady]

That poster is a habitual liar.

That poster just put up the link, just like she always does.

 

[BluesLegend]

That poster just put up the link, just like she always does.

Still waiting for you to respond to your lies I pointed out in your previous post. I think we all know why you ignored it.

 

[struth]

Yes he did.

Prosecutors cannot call those shot by Kyle Rittenhouse 'victims.' But 'looters' is OK

The defense may also call them "arsonists," the judge ruled. The criminal trial of Rittenhouse, the teenager who shot and killed two protesters in Kenosha, Wis., begins next week.

www.npr.org

Typical that I can back up everything that I post with a link.

This kid wasn't protecting anything. He was running around looking "cool". It was like playing Call of Duty but for real!!! It he was protecting that garage, why didn't he stay there. When the area was cleared, why did he run into the area where the protestors were hemmed in, and sneak around the police lines.

This is like George Zimmerman claiming self defense after he stalked an unarmed kid with a gun he wasn't supposed to have, and when the skinny kid tried to defend himself from this fat pervy guy following him home, George murdered him.

I expect Kyle to turn out just as well as George. I can't hardly wait for his porno film.

they were looters and arsonist

clearly you didn’t watch the trial

they weren’t victims of anything. There was no crime.

these looters, rioters, arsonist were violent thugs that attacked this kid, it doesn’t matter if he was only there to look cool…in the united states you don’t have the right to assault someone because you think they are standing around just looking cool…moreover in the united states you have a right to defend yourself

sad you are blinded by your cult views and defending your fellow cultist

 

[Dragonlady]

they were looters and arsonist

clearly you didn’t watch the trial

they weren’t victims of anything. There was no crime.

these looters, rioters, arsonist were violent thugs that attacked this kid, it doesn’t matter if he was only there to look cool…in the united states you don’t have the right to assault someone because you think they are standing around just looking cool…moreover in the united states you have a right to defend yourself

sad you are blinded by your cult views and defending your fellow cultist

The unarmed people who are now dead because Kyle Rittenhouse took his illegal weapon to town, are most definitely victims. How are you going to feel with young assholes on the left, or your young anarchists start shooting people and claiming self-defense, when it's the Proud Boys, and the 3%'ers getting gunned down because people feared for their lives with them open carrying.

This won't end well for your side at all. You seem to think that the left doesn't have any guns, and you'd be wrong in that assumption.

 

[struth]

The unarmed people who are now dead because Kyle Rittenhouse took his illegal weapon to town, are most definitely victims. How are you going to feel with young assholes on the left, or your young anarchists start shooting people and claiming self-defense, when it's the Proud Boys, and the 3%'ers getting gunned down because people feared for their lives with them open carrying.

This won't end well for your side at all. You seem to think that the left doesn't have any guns, and you'd be wrong in that assumption.

wow
1) they all went unarmed, and they aren’t all dead..one person who was shot said he pointed his pistol at Kyle first
2) Kyle didn’t have an illegal weapon
3) he didn’t bring the rifle with him to the city

seriously you obviously didn’t pay attention ar all to the trial and are merely repeating debunked propaganda

 

[bodecea]

Trust me the lawyers are licking their chops.

Particularly the lawyers for the families of those murdered by lil'thug Kyle.

 

[bripat9643]

He has no basis for suing. He became a public figure when he shot 2 people.

That's not what is meant by "public figure" moron. He didn't seek out publicity.

 

[bripat9643]

Particularly the lawyers for the families of those murdered by lil'thug Kyle.

The jury said he was innocent. Those lawyers will have a difficult time overcoming that.

Progs are so fucking stupid.

 

[AZrailwhale]

The hyperbole in your post is astounding. The little asshole went out looking for trouble and found it.

The day will come when the right wing thugs with their AR weapons will be targeted at demonstrations and fired upon because demonstrators feared for their lives from these armed thugs showing up at protests.

You can't go out hunting for leftists and not expect them to fire on you.

When that happens there will be a lot of dead left wing thugs. If the cops and courts don’t execute them, accurate return fire will. I don’t tend to see many leftists or criminals when I go to the range, just a lot of conservatives honing their skills and talking guns and shooting.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Particularly the lawyers for the families of those murdered by lil'thug Kyle.

The families of the thugs who attacked Rittenhouse won’t find any lawyers, because Rittenhouse doesn’t have two dimes to rub together so the lawyers won’t make any money on their one third contingency fee. If the families want to sue, they will have to pay the legal costs themselves and still not recover anything.

 

[TheParser]

A little respect for Representative Bass, please.

She has a good chance of being elected the next mayor of Los Angeles.

This city is now full of bleeding hearts who feel grateful for an opportunity to kneel before her.

 

[BluesLegend]

The jury said he was innocent. Those lawyers will have a difficult time overcoming that.

Progs are so fucking stupid.

Progs are tantrum prone 2 year olds, treat them as such. I didn't get my way

 

[Osiris-ODS]

Yes, the families of the people he murdered are going to go after him for wrongful death suits. Just like OJ

This case is entirely different than the OJ case. There is no basis for a civil suit here. Let me explain the key differences to you in terms of the viability of post-criminal verdict civil litigation.

In the OJ case, there was no question that Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman were brutally murdered by "someone" -- OJ's defense in the criminal trial was that someone else committed the murders, not that the homicides were justified under the governing criminal code. While there was plenty of circumstantial evidence pointing towards OJ as the killer, the state failed to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" that OJ was the person who killed Nicole and Ron.

In the civil trial, that circumstantial evidence pointing to OJ as the killer was sufficient to carry the "preponderance of the evidence" burden of proof.

This case is entirely different. There is no dispute about exactly what happened and who was involved. Kyle Rittenhouse's acquittal was based on an affirmative defense of justifiable homicide under the criminal code, and the jurors found that the undisputed facts satisfied the elements of self defense under Wisconsin law.

There is no dispute about any relevant fact here. There is no circumstantial evidence to consider on any relevant issue. This case involves a pure question of law, unlike the OJ case, so a "lesser burden of proof" in a civil trial is not going to alter the legal calculus. In sum, absent some genuine dispute about a fact that is relevant to legal culpability, a civil action for wrongful death in a case like this would either be dismissed on the pleadings or on summary judgment.

I don't actually expect you to comprehend this but I'm not really writing it for you. I'm writing it for the people who use more than 1% of their brain and want to actually understand the legal factors that distinguish this from the OJ case for purposes of civil litigation.

 

[Dragonlady]

When that happens there will be a lot of dead left wing thugs. If the cops and courts don’t execute them, accurate return fire will. I don’t tend to see many leftists or criminals when I go to the range, just a lot of conservatives honing their skills and talking guns and shooting.

Your foolish assumption is that there are no left wing police officers, ex-military, or law abiding gun owners. You seem to think that on the left. They're not out marching around around like the right wing thugs trying to terrorize the left, but they are most definitely there.

Every other right wing attempt to stop people from achieving their God given right to freedom and equality has failed. Slavery ended, the Klan was driven underground, lynching stopped, black people got the vote, schools were desegregated.

The murder of minorites by police will end too. But every leftist attempt to gain civil rights for citizens of your country has been met with deadly violence from the right wingers in your nation.

 

[Dragonlady]

The jury said he was innocent. Those lawyers will have a difficult time overcoming that.

Progs are so fucking stupid.

The jury did not find him "innocent". They found him "not guilty" of a crime. That doesn't make him innocent or not responsible for those deaths.

 

[Dragonlady]

This case is entirely different than the OJ case. There is no basis for a civil suit here. Let me explain the key differences to you in terms of the viability of post-criminal verdict civil litigation.

In the OJ case, there was no question that Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman were brutally murdered by "someone" -- OJ's defense in the criminal trial was that someone else committed the murders, not that the homicides were justified under the governing criminal code. While there was plenty of circumstantial evidence pointing towards OJ as the killer, the state failed to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" that OJ was the person who killed Nicole and Ron.

In the civil trial, that circumstantial evidence pointing to OJ as the killer was sufficient to carry the "preponderance of the evidence" burden of proof.

This case is entirely different. There is no dispute about exactly what happened and who was involved. Kyle Rittenhouse's acquittal was based on an affirmative defense of justifiable homicide under the criminal code, and the jurors found that the undisputed facts satisfied the elements of self defense under Wisconsin law.

There is no dispute about any relevant fact here. There is no circumstantial evidence to consider on any relevant issue. This case involves a pure question of law, unlike the OJ case, so a "lesser burden of proof" in a civil trial is not going to alter the legal calculus. In sum, absent some genuine dispute about a fact that is relevant to legal culpability, a civil action for wrongful death in a case like this would either be dismissed on the pleadings or on summary judgment.

I don't actually expect you to comprehend this but I'm not really writing it for you. I'm writing it for the people who use more than 1% of their brain and want to actually understand the legal factors that distinguish this from the OJ case for purposes of civil litigation.

Kyle Rittenhouse is fully responsible for shooting those people and for their deaths. There's even MORE evidence of his responsibility that there was for OJ. It is therefore much easier to find civil responsibility for the losses of his victims loved ones than there was in the OJ case.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

they were looters and arsonist

clearly you didn’t watch the trial

they weren’t victims of anything. There was no crime.

these looters, rioters, arsonist were violent thugs that attacked this kid, it doesn’t matter if he was only there to look cool…in the united states you don’t have the right to assault someone because you think they are standing around just looking cool…moreover in the united states you have a right to defend yourself

sad you are blinded by your cult views and defending your fellow cultist

It's not spelled cult.

 

[bripat9643]

The jury did not find him "innocent". They found him "not guilty" of a crime. That doesn't make him innocent or not responsible for those deaths.

A distinction without a difference. We all thank Kyle for killing those thugs.

 

[bripat9643]

Kyle Rittenhouse is fully responsible for shooting those people and for their deaths. There's even MORE evidence of his responsibility that there was for OJ. It is therefore much easier to find civil responsibility for the losses of his victims loved ones than there was in the OJ case.

yes, we know he's responsible. That's why we want to pin a medal on him.