Will Aaron Judge pass Roger Maris for the Yankees single season Home Run record?

[Harry Dresden]

Have you ever SEEN a body-building or weightlifting magazine or book? EVERY ONE OF THEM touts the possibility of enhancing strength, muscularity, and flexibility through intelligent training. It happens all the time to people who are not professional athletes.

But you, Harry, have concluded that it is not possible for Barry B to have built himself up through rigorous gym training, just like thousands of other guys have done.

And for the record, anabolic steroids do not produce muscle mass. You still have to work your ass off in the gym to get those results. In fact, those who have done so merely say that the steroids allow them to work harder in the gym than they could have without the steroids.

did he take steroids or not?......

 

[Hellbilly]

did he take steroids or not?......

How do steroids help you hit a 98 MPH fastball?

 

[Harry Dresden]

How do steroids help you hit a 98 MPH fastball?

you can hit it farther....i needed to tell you that.....even bonds himself said.... "The balls I used to line off the walls are lining out [of the park]. I can't tell you why."

 

[Hellbilly]

you can hit it farther....i needed to tell you that.....even bonds himself said.... "The balls I used to line off the walls are lining out [of the park]. I can't tell you why."

Not the question. In order to hit it farther, you first need to hit it. Do steroids help with a batters timing? If so, how?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Not the question. In order to hit it farther, you first need to hit it. Do steroids help with a batters timing? If so, how?

no one says it helps see the ball better....bonds bat avg was always around .300....even after the use.....and not every piture throws 98 mph....

 

[Hellbilly]

no one says it helps see the ball better....bonds bat avg was always around .300....even after the use.....and not every piture throws 98 mph....

If it doesn't help players hit, why is it an issue?

 

[Harry Dresden]

If it doesn't help players hit, why is it an issue?

do you know what hitting it farther means?...

 

[Hellbilly]

do you know what hitting it farther means?...

Sure do. Do you know what actually hitting the ball means?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Sure do. Do you know what actually hitting the ball means?

yea when you hit the ball and it goes fairly deep...now its going over the fence....got it?...before barrys steroid use he was avg like 30 homers a year avg 1 homer every 16 at bats ..after he was avg like i homer every 8 at bats or around 40 a year....and in the steroid time he was in his middle 30's when players are starting to decline....

 

[Mr. Friscus]

.at least players like Trout,Pujols and Judge are real players....

Are you sure?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Are you sure?

you dont think after what happened these guys with great seasons are not tested?...like i said above....there are guys who are naturally good players.....

 

[Ralph Norton]

If it doesn't help players hit, why is it an issue?

2 players: same batting average.
1 hits it farther.
Who do you want on your team?

 

[Hellbilly]

2 players: same batting average.
1 hits it farther.
Who do you want on your team?

The one with a better OBP.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The one with a better OBP.

they would have fairly equal OBP...but the guy who hits it farther usually has more RBI's....

 

[Mr. Friscus]

you dont think after what happened these guys with great seasons are not tested?...like i said above....there are guys who are naturally good players.....

I think all the players are “naturally” gifted with or without the juice

 

[Harry Dresden]

I think all the players are “naturally” gifted with or without the juice

only certain ones are gifted the other ones are average.....and then there are ones who are there a few years and are gone....

 

[Mr. Friscus]

only certain ones are gifted the other ones are average.....and then there are ones who are there a few years and are gone....

Who is average

 

[Harry Dresden]

Who is average

guys who hit .240 to .260...get around 140 to 160 hits.....hit maybe 20 homers and get around 50 to 70 RBI's....

 

[Mr. Friscus]

guys who hit .240 to .260...get around 140 to 160 hits.....hit maybe 20 homers and get around 50 to 70 RBI's....

Indeed. Even without roids Bonds would have had a HOF career, same with McGwire

 

[Devils_Advocate]

they would have fairly equal OBP...but the guy who hits it farther usually has more RBI's....

Remember Tommy Herr of the Red Birds?

That guy could knock the runs in and did it a lot of times without hitting the ball out of the park.

I have more respect for those that can drive the ball for a double and triple because then leg speed matters and those that work the count than those smacking the dingers…