Wild Brawl Breaks Out On Carnival Cruise Over Chicken Tenders

No, you just have to spend more money on a better cruise. You arent going to see a bunch of ghetto black people on Royal Carribean cruises. It will be very white and very peaceful.
Go upscale a bit more and book Celebrity.
 
only 15? Good lord, I would have had to smuggle in my own bottle or add drugs to the mix.
I once bought a drink card that allowed me 15 drinks for the week. One glass of wine at dinner and a cocktail at the show lounge per evening was more than enough for me.
 
They should limit the drinking. Right now, passengers can have 15 alcoholic drinks within a 24-hour period.
You know, in spite of liquor being available everywhere on the cruise ships, we never observed anybody who was obviously under the influence. Never observed anybody who was behaving inappropriately other than the very very few jerks we encountered, and that was just quietly verbal, never physical.

I think people taking cruises were probably a different class of people then though. If those cruising are now uncouth, ill mannered, rowdy and violent sorts, I wouldn't want any part of that.
 
I've been on a number of cruises and all of them have been on Carnival Cruise Lines. (Our daughter's brother-in-law was a big deal with Carnival and saw that we got a lot of very nice perks when we cruised even when she and her husband were not with us.)

We met a very few really unpleasant people on those cruises at times--the 'holier than thou' or 'I'm so much better than you' types--but for the most part, we enjoyed all the people on the boats, made some good friends, and it was a delightful experience. At no time did I not feel perfectly safe. Certainly it never occurred to us that an angry brawl and fisticuffs would ever be part of that. equation.

I loved cruising because our elegant staterooms went with us everywhere we went, we didn't have to drive in unfamiliar territory, pack and unpack for every new location, etc. Plus we were pampered hugely and the food, entertainment, and other amenities were great as well as visiting many interesting places and doing interesting things on shore excursion.

So this thread sort of saddens me that now the undisciplined and lawless will spoil what was once the most freeing and pleasant vacation experience ever.
We have taken multiple tours on Viking riverboats, and its the same. Just the thought they would be out of something would be unheard of, much less there would be a fight about it.
 
You know, in spite of liquor being available everywhere on the cruise ships, we never observed anybody who was obviously under the influence. Never observed anybody who was behaving inappropriately other than the very very few jerks we encountered, and that was just quietly verbal, never physical.

I think people taking cruises were probably a different class of people then though. If those cruising are now uncouth, ill mannered, rowdy and violent sorts, I wouldn't want any part of that.
I’ve been cruising for 40 years. In the early days, it was a very affluent, well-mannered clientele, and quite formal.

More recently, as prices have come down relative to income, cruising has opened up to a wide swath of people - lots of middle and even lower-middle class. Still a very pleasant environment with people who know how to behave.

But lately, Carnival in particular made a conscious business decision to go real low-end, making cruises affordable to the food stamp crowd. But even they have been shocked to learn just how uncivilized these people have become.
 
We have taken multiple tours on Viking riverboats, and its the same. Just the thought they would be out of something would be unheard of, much less there would be a fight about it.
I think one my besties and her husband used to like to cruise on the smaller ships. Even though there are fewer amenities, you got to really get to know people better on a smaller ship than the floating cities that my husband and I always cruised on.

I thought she mentioned Viking but after checking they don't have any ships with passenger capacity under 900 and the ships she described were considerably smaller than that.

Most or all of the Carnival Ships, when we were cruising, had passenger capacities exceeding that of the Titanic. :)
 
I think one my besties and her husband used to like to cruise on the smaller ships. Even though there are fewer amenities, you got to really get to know people better on a smaller ship than the floating cities that my husband and I always cruised on.

I thought she mentioned Viking but after checking they don't have any ships with passenger capacity under 900 and the ships she described were considerably smaller than that.

Most or all of the Carnival Ships, when we were cruising, had passenger capacities exceeding that of the Titanic. :)
Viking river boats generally have a max of 190 at least in Europe. Bartender knew my name and drink on afternoon 2 :)
 
Carnival has a REAL branding problem. They were content to be known as the low-class, low-cost line since they were still able to make a tidy profit.

But even they could not predict just how devolved their passengers would become, and now they’re stuck. If they try to instill SOME degree of civikized behavior, blacks will scream racist. In the meantime, decent people who grew up with at least semi-normal values won’t touch a Carnival cruise with a 10-foot pole.
Next summer the Mrs. and I will be doing Alaska on Norwegian. I'll never step foot on a Carnival ship. We picked Norwegian because it isn't a floating budget amusement park.
 
I’ve been cruising for 40 years. In the early days, it was a very affluent, well-mannered clientele, and quite formal.

More recently, as prices have come down relative to income, cruising has opened up to a wide swath of people - lots of middle and even lower-middle class. Still a very pleasant environment with people who know how to behave.

But lately, Carnival in particular made a conscious business decision to go real low-end, making cruises affordable to the food stamp crowd. But even they have been shocked to learn just how uncivilized these people have become.
We went the Carnival route again because of my daughter's connections that got us a lot of freebies and other amenities.

On one cruise through the western Caribbean islands, two our our dinner companions were a delightful young couple on their honey moon that we have maintained contact with for years--their kids are now in high school. :)

Another couple, however, were among the very few jerks. They proceeded to advise that lovely young couple how inferior their wedding was, yadda yadda. And my husband and I winced hearing how rich they were and high fashion and it went on and on. During all that a steward came by to advise hubby and me that we had been invited to dine at the Captain's table the next night. (Courtesy of daughter's brother-in-law who was an executive with Carnival of course.)

Of course we graciously accepted. The look on the 'jerks' faces was priceless though. They apparently asked to be assigned to another table because we never saw them again. The company at our table was much more pleasant after that. :)
 
Next summer the Mrs. and I will be doing Alaska on Norwegian. I'll never step foot on a Carnival ship. We picked Norwegian because it isn't a floating budget amusement park.
Good. Our Alaska trip was one of our very best experience. Would love to do that again. I don't know what Carnival is like now. But we loved all the different things to do back then when we were at sea with nothing to see or at night when we couldn't see the land. Excellent Vegas style entertainment offered every night too.

It probably has gone downhill as Lisa described now though.
 
Good. Our Alaska trip was one of our very best experience. Would love to do that again. I don't know what Carnival is like now. But we loved all the different things to do back then when we were at sea with nothing to see or at night when we couldn't see the land. Excellent Vegas style entertainment offered every night too.

It probably has gone downhill as Lisa described now though.
How many years ago was your Carnival cruise?
 
How many years ago was your Carnival cruise?
I can't remember for sure, but I am sure it has been no less than 15 years ago. That cruise through western Caribbean islands was the last one we went on.
 
I’ve been cruising for 40 years. In the early days, it was a very affluent, well-mannered clientele, and quite formal.

More recently, as prices have come down relative to income, cruising has opened up to a wide swath of people - lots of middle and even lower-middle class. Still a very pleasant environment with people who know how to behave.

But lately, Carnival in particular made a conscious business decision to go real low-end, making cruises affordable to the food stamp crowd. But even they have been shocked to learn just how uncivilized these people have become.
Carnival may have thought they were helping to bring the cruise experience to people who never had a chance of experiencing it.
 
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I once bought a drink card that allowed me 15 drinks for the week. One glass of wine at dinner and a cocktail at the show lounge per evening was more than enough for me.
We were teetotalers when we began cruising. So we liked that we didn't have to share the ships with a bunch of drunks. :)
 

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