WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange will be punished for embarrassing the DC establishment

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This is spot on perfect, He went after the elite and I am surprised US Yesterday had the courage to print it


WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange will be punished for embarrassing the DC establishment



The key to the prosecution of Assange has always been to punish him without again embarrassing the powerful figures he made mockeries of.



He is our property.” Those celebratory words of Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., came on CNN soon after the news of the arrest of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London.

It was a sentiment shared by virtually everyone in Washington from Congress to the intelligence services. Assange committed the unpardonable sins of embarrassing the establishment — from members of Congress to intelligence officials to the news media. And he will now be punished for our sins. Despite having significant constitutional arguments to be made, it is likely that he will be stripped of those defenses and even barred from raising the overall context of his actions in federal court. What could be the most important free speech and free press case in our history could well be reduced to the scope and substance of an unauthorized computer access case.

For years, the public has debated what Assange is: journalist, whistleblower, foreign agent, dupe. The problem is that Assange is first and foremost a publisher.


Moreover, he was doing something that is usually heralded in the news media. WikiLeaks disclosed a massive and arguably unconstitutional surveillance program by the United States impacting virtually every citizen. It later published emails that showed that the Democratic National Committee and the campaign of Hillary Clinton lied in various statements to the public, including the rigging of the primary for her nomination.

No one has argued that any of these emails were false
. They were embarrassing. Of course, there is not crime of embarrassing the establishment, but that is merely a technicality.



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The criminal charge against Assange filed in a federal court was crafted to circumvent the obvious constitutional problems in prosecuting him. The charge is revealing. He is charged with a single count for his alleged involvement in the hacking operation of Chelsea Manning in 2010.









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They will punish Assange for their sins
The key to prosecuting Assange has always been to punish him without again embarrassing the powerful figures made mockeries by his disclosures. That means to keep him from discussing how the U.S. government launched an unprecedented surveillance program that scooped up the emails and communications of citizens without a warrant or probable cause. He cannot discuss how Democratic and Republican members either were complicit or incompetent in their oversight. He cannot discuss how the public was lied to about the program.















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This is spot on perfect, He went after the elite and I am surprised US Yesterday had the courage to print it


WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange will be punished for embarrassing the DC establishment



The key to the prosecution of Assange has always been to punish him without again embarrassing the powerful figures he made mockeries of.



He is our property.” Those celebratory words of Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., came on CNN soon after the news of the arrest of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London.

It was a sentiment shared by virtually everyone in Washington from Congress to the intelligence services. Assange committed the unpardonable sins of embarrassing the establishment — from members of Congress to intelligence officials to the news media. And he will now be punished for our sins. Despite having significant constitutional arguments to be made, it is likely that he will be stripped of those defenses and even barred from raising the overall context of his actions in federal court. What could be the most important free speech and free press case in our history could well be reduced to the scope and substance of an unauthorized computer access case.

For years, the public has debated what Assange is: journalist, whistleblower, foreign agent, dupe. The problem is that Assange is first and foremost a publisher.


Moreover, he was doing something that is usually heralded in the news media. WikiLeaks disclosed a massive and arguably unconstitutional surveillance program by the United States impacting virtually every citizen. It later published emails that showed that the Democratic National Committee and the campaign of Hillary Clinton lied in various statements to the public, including the rigging of the primary for her nomination.

No one has argued that any of these emails were false
. They were embarrassing. Of course, there is not crime of embarrassing the establishment, but that is merely a technicality.



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Trump will pardon him. He loves Wikileaks.

Oh, that's right, he doesn't know anything about Wikileaks now, LOL.

What an embarrassment this fucking clown is.
 
This is spot on perfect, He went after the elite and I am surprised US Yesterday had the courage to print it


WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange will be punished for embarrassing the DC establishment



The key to the prosecution of Assange has always been to punish him without again embarrassing the powerful figures he made mockeries of.



He is our property.” Those celebratory words of Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., came on CNN soon after the news of the arrest of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London.

It was a sentiment shared by virtually everyone in Washington from Congress to the intelligence services. Assange committed the unpardonable sins of embarrassing the establishment — from members of Congress to intelligence officials to the news media. And he will now be punished for our sins. Despite having significant constitutional arguments to be made, it is likely that he will be stripped of those defenses and even barred from raising the overall context of his actions in federal court. What could be the most important free speech and free press case in our history could well be reduced to the scope and substance of an unauthorized computer access case.

For years, the public has debated what Assange is: journalist, whistleblower, foreign agent, dupe. The problem is that Assange is first and foremost a publisher.


Moreover, he was doing something that is usually heralded in the news media. WikiLeaks disclosed a massive and arguably unconstitutional surveillance program by the United States impacting virtually every citizen. It later published emails that showed that the Democratic National Committee and the campaign of Hillary Clinton lied in various statements to the public, including the rigging of the primary for her nomination.

No one has argued that any of these emails were false
. They were embarrassing. Of course, there is not crime of embarrassing the establishment, but that is merely a technicality.



.
Trump will pardon him. He loves Wikileaks.

Oh, that's right, he doesn't know anything about Wikileaks now, LOL.

What an embarrassment this fucking clown is.


From my link



No one has argued that any of these emails were false. They were embarrassing. Of course, there is not crime of embarrassing the establishment, but that is merely a technicality.









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The reason his asylum was revoked was pretty amusing. Seems that he didn't clean his room, made others take care of his cat, and was rude to everyone around him. Never bite the hand that feeds you.
 
This is spot on perfect, He went after the elite and I am surprised US Yesterday had the courage to print it


WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange will be punished for embarrassing the DC establishment



The key to the prosecution of Assange has always been to punish him without again embarrassing the powerful figures he made mockeries of.



He is our property.” Those celebratory words of Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., came on CNN soon after the news of the arrest of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London.

It was a sentiment shared by virtually everyone in Washington from Congress to the intelligence services. Assange committed the unpardonable sins of embarrassing the establishment — from members of Congress to intelligence officials to the news media. And he will now be punished for our sins. Despite having significant constitutional arguments to be made, it is likely that he will be stripped of those defenses and even barred from raising the overall context of his actions in federal court. What could be the most important free speech and free press case in our history could well be reduced to the scope and substance of an unauthorized computer access case.

For years, the public has debated what Assange is: journalist, whistleblower, foreign agent, dupe. The problem is that Assange is first and foremost a publisher.


Moreover, he was doing something that is usually heralded in the news media. WikiLeaks disclosed a massive and arguably unconstitutional surveillance program by the United States impacting virtually every citizen. It later published emails that showed that the Democratic National Committee and the campaign of Hillary Clinton lied in various statements to the public, including the rigging of the primary for her nomination.

No one has argued that any of these emails were false
. They were embarrassing. Of course, there is not crime of embarrassing the establishment, but that is merely a technicality.



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Is it wrong to inform Americas citizens of our troops gunning down civilians? Just asking
 
The Donald should offer him a pardon if he comes and testifies before the Senate, and truthfully relates the genesis of the infamous emails.

Yes, I'm serious.
 
If Trump doesn't pardon Julian Assange, half his conservative base will disappear and go full libertarian (and therefore lose in 2020).

Prosecuting Julian Assange is political suicide for Trump.

This is one instance in which I will not support Trump if Julian is not pardoned.

This is Big Gov sending a threatening message to whistleblowers.
 
Assange is a fucking scum bag that deals in stolen merchandise. He is no different than the pawn shop owner down the road that got arrested for the same thing


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Manning was the thief and ultimately pardoned by Obama. Should we have prosecuted the NY Times for publishing the (stolen) "Ellsberg papers" during the Vietnam War?

Wrong. Manning was never pardoned, she had her sentence commuted after serving 7 years by Obama.

Here....................so you know the difference next time........................

pardon
[pahr-dn]
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SEE MORE SYNONYMS FOR pardon ON THESAURUS.COM
noun
1 kind indulgence, as in forgiveness of an offense or discourtesy or in tolerance of a distraction or inconvenience: I beg your pardon, but which way is Spruce Street?
2 Law .
  1. a release from the penalty of an offense; a remission of penalty, as by a governor.
  2. the document by which such remission is declared.
3 forgiveness of a serious offense or offender.
verb (used with object)
4 to make courteous allowance for or to excuse: Pardon me, madam.
5 to release (a person) from liability for an offense.

commute
[kuh-myoot]
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SEE MORE SYNONYMS FOR commute ON THESAURUS.COM
verb (used with object), com·mut·ed, com·mut·ing.
1 to change (a prison sentence or other penalty) to a less severe one: The death sentence was commuted to life imprisonment.
2 to exchange for another or for something else; give and take reciprocally; interchange.
verb (used without object), com·mut·ed, com·mut·ing.
3 to travel regularly over some distance, as from a suburb into a city and back: He commutes to work by train.
4 to make substitution.


And finally, what punishment Manning actually received......................

Chelsea Manning - Wikipedia

Manning was charged with 22 offenses, including aiding the enemy, which was the most serious charge and could have resulted in a death sentence.[16] She was held at the Marine Corps Brig, Quantico in Virginia, from July 2010 to April 2011, under Prevention of Injury status—which entailed de facto solitary confinement and other restrictions that caused domestic and international concern[17]—before being transferred to the Joint Regional Correctional Facility at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, where she could interact with other detainees.[18] She pleaded guilty in February 2013 to 10 of the charges.[19] The trial on the remaining charges began on June 3, 2013, and on July 30 she was convicted of 17 of the original charges and amended versions of four others, but was acquitted of aiding the enemy.[20] She was sentenced to 35 years at the maximum-security U.S. Disciplinary Barracks at Fort Leavenworth.[21][22] On January 17, 2017, President Barack Obama commuted Manning's sentence to nearly seven years of confinement dating from her arrest on May 27, 2010.[23][24] Manning now earns a living through speaking engagements.[25]
 
If Trump doesn't pardon Julian Assange, half his conservative base will disappear and go full libertarian (and therefore lose in 2020).

Prosecuting Julian Assange is political suicide for Trump.

This is one instance in which I will not support Trump if Julian is not pardoned.

This is Big Gov sending a threatening message to whistleblowers.
"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters,"
Donald Trump
 
This attempt by the US government to bring Assange to trial is more an attempt to get him found guilty to scare the media into never publishing any kind of classified information, ever. Assange is just the pawn.
Bullshit.

"The indictment alleges that in March 2010, Assange engaged in a conspiracy with Chelsea Manning, a former intelligence analyst in the U.S. Army, to assist Manning in cracking a password stored on U.S. Department of Defense computers connected to the Secret Internet Protocol Network (SIPRNet), a US government network used for classified documents and communications.

"Manning, who had access to the computers in connection with her duties as an intelligence analyst, was using the computers to download classified records to transmit to WikiLeaks.

"Cracking the password would have allowed Manning to log on to the computers under a username that did not belong to her. Such a deceptive measure would have made it more difficult for investigators to determine the source of the illegal disclosures.

"During the conspiracy, Manning and Assange engaged in real-time discussions regarding Manning's transmission of classified records to Assange. The discussions also reflect Assange actively encouraging Manning to provide more information.

"During an exchange, Manning told Assange that 'after this upload, that's all I really have got left.' To which Assange replied, 'curious eyes never run dry in my experience'.

"Assange is charged with conspiracy to commit computer intrusion and is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

"If convicted, he faces a maximum penalty of five years in prison. Actual sentences for federal crimes are typically less than the maximum penalties. A federal district court judge will determine any sentence after taking into account the US Sentencing Guidelines and other statutory factors."

Who is Julian Assange? What crimes is WikiLeaks founder being accused of?
 
This attempt by the US government to bring Assange to trial is more an attempt to get him found guilty to scare the media into never publishing any kind of classified information, ever. Assange is just the pawn.
Bullshit.

"The indictment alleges that in March 2010, Assange engaged in a conspiracy with Chelsea Manning, a former intelligence analyst in the U.S. Army, to assist Manning in cracking a password stored on U.S. Department of Defense computers connected to the Secret Internet Protocol Network (SIPRNet), a US government network used for classified documents and communications.

"Manning, who had access to the computers in connection with her duties as an intelligence analyst, was using the computers to download classified records to transmit to WikiLeaks.

"Cracking the password would have allowed Manning to log on to the computers under a username that did not belong to her. Such a deceptive measure would have made it more difficult for investigators to determine the source of the illegal disclosures.

"During the conspiracy, Manning and Assange engaged in real-time discussions regarding Manning's transmission of classified records to Assange. The discussions also reflect Assange actively encouraging Manning to provide more information.

"During an exchange, Manning told Assange that 'after this upload, that's all I really have got left.' To which Assange replied, 'curious eyes never run dry in my experience'.

"Assange is charged with conspiracy to commit computer intrusion and is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

"If convicted, he faces a maximum penalty of five years in prison. Actual sentences for federal crimes are typically less than the maximum penalties. A federal district court judge will determine any sentence after taking into account the US Sentencing Guidelines and other statutory factors."

Being accused is not being guilty. After this much time I find it ludicrous to be going to all this effort when the max penalty is 5 years in a federal pen. Ergo, the government is teaching the media a lesson IMHO. But, you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
 
The key to prosecuting Assange has always been to punish him without again embarrassing the powerful figures made mockeries by his disclosures.
I'm a little confused. During the 2016 campaign, time and again Trump couldn't say enough good things about Assange's work at forwarding hacked Emails, all negative about Trump's rival that some say Assange got from Russians. Today Trump does a Sgt Schultz about Wikileaks. And conditions have changed so I don't expect anything revealing from Assange. We now have Trump's Roy Cohn (famous Mob lawyer) as AG so Julian can sing like Pavarotti, but his songs will be scrubbed clean of his ever so helpful work on Trump's behalf. Barr is experienced. He was also instrumental in clearing the Iran-Contra gang.
 
This attempt by the US government to bring Assange to trial is more an attempt to get him found guilty to scare the media into never publishing any kind of classified information, ever. Assange is just the pawn.
Bullshit.

"The indictment alleges that in March 2010, Assange engaged in a conspiracy with Chelsea Manning, a former intelligence analyst in the U.S. Army, to assist Manning in cracking a password stored on U.S. Department of Defense computers connected to the Secret Internet Protocol Network (SIPRNet), a US government network used for classified documents and communications.

"Manning, who had access to the computers in connection with her duties as an intelligence analyst, was using the computers to download classified records to transmit to WikiLeaks.

"Cracking the password would have allowed Manning to log on to the computers under a username that did not belong to her. Such a deceptive measure would have made it more difficult for investigators to determine the source of the illegal disclosures.

"During the conspiracy, Manning and Assange engaged in real-time discussions regarding Manning's transmission of classified records to Assange. The discussions also reflect Assange actively encouraging Manning to provide more information.

"During an exchange, Manning told Assange that 'after this upload, that's all I really have got left.' To which Assange replied, 'curious eyes never run dry in my experience'.

"Assange is charged with conspiracy to commit computer intrusion and is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

"If convicted, he faces a maximum penalty of five years in prison. Actual sentences for federal crimes are typically less than the maximum penalties. A federal district court judge will determine any sentence after taking into account the US Sentencing Guidelines and other statutory factors."

Who is Julian Assange? What crimes is WikiLeaks founder being accused of?


you lost me when you called manning a She



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Assange is a fucking scum bag that deals in stolen merchandise. He is no different than the pawn shop owner down the road that got arrested for the same thing


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Agreed:

What always got me about Wikileaks was this. They hack every computer in the western hemisphere and publish stuff to embarrass those in power under the guise of serving the public. Yet they never seem to hack any computer belonging to terrorists organizations like Al Queda, ISIS, or even North Korea, Iran, Syria etc...

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