Why we have gun crime...7 time felon with 4th gun case freed on ankle monitor tries to shoot and kill his girlfriend. Thanks democrats.

[JoeB131]

Do you want to allow convicted felons to carry guns and kill people?

Its better to lock them up till they decide to stop breaking the law

Most gun murder is domestic violence.

If you guys support a "God-given right" to carry a gun, then you really shouldn't be upset when people you don't like have them.

Every other industrialized country has figured this out. They either outright ban gun ownership or they make guns very difficult to get.

 

[Mac-7]

Most gun murder is domestic violence.

If you guys support a "God-given right" to carry a gun, then you really shouldn't be upset when people you don't like have them.

Every other industrialized country has figured this out. They either outright ban gun ownership or they make guns very difficult to get.

You are not making sense

in lieu of libs taking all the guns of legal gun owners, till you manage that, we need to take criminals off the street who have illegal guns

 

[2aguy]

Well, no, they don't. that's the point.




We lock up 2 million people. We have another 7 million on probation or parole. 68% of men who can't find jobs have criminal records, usually for something petty. Your system of "lock them up for petty gun possession" creates MORE criminals. And it doesn't stop a Holmes or a Lanza from going on a mass shooting expression of Second Amendment Rights.

Idiot.....only 6-7% of the criminal population are violent shooters.....sadly, those are the very guys the democrats have decided to let out of jail and prison over and over again..

We can keep 6-7% of the most violent gun offenders locked up.......that is the solution, not disarming normal people who are the very targets of those violent monsters...you idiot.

 

[bodecea]

Normal Americans who own guns for self defense, sport, competition and hunting...are not the ones shooting people in democrat party controlled cities.......

this guy and others like him are.....and the democrat party judges, and prosecutors keep letting them out...

Like this guy........

Anti-gunners....you have to explain this.....explain this before you ask for any more gun control laws....

A seven-time convicted felon who was on electronic monitoring for a Class X felony gun case was charged Wednesday with trying to shoot and kill his girlfriend’s father in an alley behind their home this week.
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McClore’s felony convictions include unlawful use of a weapon by a felon in 2017, 2014, and 2009; intimidation in 2014; aggravated battery causing great bodily harm in 2005 and 2003; and involuntary manslaughter in 2000, Kalliantasis told Judge Kelly McCarthy.

#4: Seven-time felon on electronic monitoring for his 4th gun case tried to shoot and kill his girlfriend's father, prosecutors say

A seven-time convicted felon who was on electronic monitoring for a Class X felony gun case is charged with trying to shoot and kill his girlfriend's father in an alley behind their home this week.

cwbchicago.com

Guess we need more prisons, eh? And more guns.....don't forget the guns.

 

[2aguy]

Most gun murder is domestic violence.

If you guys support a "God-given right" to carry a gun, then you really shouldn't be upset when people you don't like have them.

Every other industrialized country has figured this out. They either outright ban gun ownership or they make guns very difficult to get.

No...most gun murder is not domestic violence, you have never supported that number.....what you are doing is substituting "domestic violence," for "acquaintance murder," because you know that drug dealers who know each other shoot each other, violent criminals shoot other violent criminals....they know each other, and hence are "acquaintances..." You lie, and try to imply that it is John Q. Citizen, shooting the wife for a burned dinner......

Everything you post is a lie...

 

[2aguy]

Most gun murder is domestic violence.

If you guys support a "God-given right" to carry a gun, then you really shouldn't be upset when people you don't like have them.

Every other industrialized country has figured this out. They either outright ban gun ownership or they make guns very difficult to get.

No, they haven't figured it out, they have been put behind the violence curve because of the destruction of their countries by World War 2....now, their families have been destroyed the way ours were starting in the 1960s, so fatherless boys are becoming sociopaths, and fatherless girls are creating the new criminals...then throw in the violent males from 3rd world war zones that the Europeans have imported, who do not care for, respect or obey Western values, culture and laws....and you see growing violence in Europe....

 

[2aguy]

Most gun murder is domestic violence.

If you guys support a "God-given right" to carry a gun, then you really shouldn't be upset when people you don't like have them.

Every other industrialized country has figured this out. They either outright ban gun ownership or they make guns very difficult to get.

You are a moron......


A study finds that suspects in violent crime in the District share a lot of characteristics.

The National Institute for Criminal Justice Reform looked at the numbers for homicides and nonfatal shooting in D.C. in 2019 and 2020, and found that “most gun violence is tightly concentrated on a small number of very high-risk young Black male adults that share a common set of risk factors.”

Those factors include involvements in street crews, a previous criminal justice history and connection to a recent shooting. Often, they’ve been the victims of crime themselves. While the motive for the shooting “may not be a traditional gang war,” the report says, “often shootings are precipitated by a petty conflict over a young woman, a simple argument, or the now-ubiquitous social media slight.”
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More than 90% of victims and suspects in 2019 and 2020 were male and about 96% were Black.

The study also found that another 86% of victims and suspects have been involved with the criminal justice system and the average age of victims is 31, while the average age of suspects is 27 years old.

They found that, in terms of prior arrests, “victims and suspects were remarkably similar.”

http://[URL='https://wtop.com/dc/20...dc-gun-crimes-involve-small-number-of-people/

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[woodwork201]

Give us laws that work, douchenoodle.



We lock up 2 million people. Locking people up doesn't work.



He probably stole his gun from one of those "law abiding" gun owners.... or one of those law abiding gun owners sold him a gun on Ebay.

What's a law that you think would work better than all those existing ones that don't work.

We lock people up in resorts. Lockup should not be the men's club. It should be miserable and rotten, so rotten that no one ever would consider committing a crime and going back.

And show where a single gun has ever been sold illegally or legally on ebay, idiot.

 

[woodwork201]

We have gun laws that work......we can lock up people who use guns illegally.....the problem, you doofus....is the democrat party and their judges and prosecutors keep releasing repeat gun offenders over and over again.......that is the problem...we have the laws we need, the democrats just refuse to keep the most violent criminals locked up.....they return them to the black neighborhoods where they keep those poor people afraid to walk their streets...

That is on the democrats......

We do not have gun laws that work. That's the problem with gun laws, the law-breakers don't follow them. Gun laws will never convince the law-breakers to follow the law.

 

[woodwork201]

Well, no, they don't. that's the point.




We lock up 2 million people. We have another 7 million on probation or parole. 68% of men who can't find jobs have criminal records, usually for something petty. Your system of "lock them up for petty gun possession" creates MORE criminals. And it doesn't stop a Holmes or a Lanza from going on a mass shooting expression of Second Amendment Rights.

I agree, we should not lock people up for violating gun possession laws. Lock them up for robbery, or murder, or shooting their guns. Lock people up for the crimes they commit; we don't have to make up more crimes just to add enhancements; just make the original crime penalty more serious.

 

[JoeB131]

You are not making sense

in lieu of libs taking all the guns of legal gun owners, till you manage that, we need to take criminals off the street who have illegal guns

We lock up 2 million people. Locking people up.

Idiot.....only 6-7% of the criminal population are violent shooters.....sadly, those are the very guys the democrats have decided to let out of jail and prison over and over again..

We can keep 6-7% of the most violent gun offenders locked up.......that is the solution, not disarming normal people who are the very targets of those violent monsters...you idiot.

We lock up 2 million people. Locking them up doesn't work.

No...most gun murder is not domestic violence, you have never supported that number.....what you are doing is substituting "domestic violence," for "acquaintance murder," because you know that drug dealers who know each other shoot each other, violent criminals shoot other violent criminals....they know each other, and hence are "acquaintances..." You lie, and try to imply that it is John Q. Citizen, shooting the wife for a burned dinner......

Murder-suicide in Danforth: Man shoots wife, then kills himself

A man in Danforth shot and killed his wife before turning the gun on himself sometime after 11 p.m. Wednesday.

www.daily-journal.com

Riverview man shoots wife, then self after forcing her car off the road

A man is dead and his wife is in serious condition after authorities say he forced her car off the road and later shot her Tuesday.

www.abcactionnews.com

Troy man shoots wife, kills daughter before shooting himself as officers approach, police say

A Troy man shot his wife and killed his daughter inside a condo before fatally shooting himself as police approached his vehicle, officials said.

www.clickondetroit.com

But, but, but, murders are all gang related... just ask Dick Tiny.

No, they haven't figured it out, they have been put behind the violence curve because of the destruction of their countries by World War 2....now, their families have been destroyed the way ours were starting in the 1960s, so fatherless boys are becoming sociopaths, and fatherless girls are creating the new criminals...then throw in the violent males from 3rd world war zones that the Europeans have imported, who do not care for, respect or obey Western values, culture and laws....and you see growing violence in Europe....

Europe has had social programs as long as we have had them, and their out of wedlock birth rates are as high as ours or higher.

in fact, the ONLY significant difference is gun proliferation.

What's a law that you think would work better than all those existing ones that don't work.

We lock people up in resorts. Lockup should not be the men's club. It should be miserable and rotten, so rotten that no one ever would consider committing a crime and going back.

Guy, let's lock you up in one of these resorts for a month, you can tell me what a great time you had while you are bleeding out of your rectum.

 

[Mac-7]

We lock up 2 million people. Locking people up.



We lock up 2 million people. Locking them up doesn't work.

Murder-suicide in Danforth: Man shoots wife, then kills himself

A man in Danforth shot and killed his wife before turning the gun on himself sometime after 11 p.m. Wednesday.

www.daily-journal.com

Riverview man shoots wife, then self after forcing her car off the road

A man is dead and his wife is in serious condition after authorities say he forced her car off the road and later shot her Tuesday.

www.abcactionnews.com

Troy man shoots wife, kills daughter before shooting himself as officers approach, police say

A Troy man shot his wife and killed his daughter inside a condo before fatally shooting himself as police approached his vehicle, officials said.

www.clickondetroit.com

But, but, but, murders are all gang related... just ask Dick Tiny.




Europe has had social programs as long as we have had them, and their out of wedlock birth rates are as high as ours or higher.

in fact, the ONLY significant difference is gun proliferation.



Guy, let's lock you up in one of these resorts for a month, you can tell me what a great time you had while you are bleeding out of your rectum.

As per your three examples, would you be happier if the men poisoned, strangled or bashed the women’s head end with a big stick?

 

[Turtlesoup]

And where would he get a gun if guns weren't readily available? Would the Gun Fairy bring him a gun?



We lock up 2 million people in this country. Locking people up isn't a solution.



This is the same Eddie Johnson who drove drunk, tried to use his badge to get out of it, and got fired.

You need guns so you don't wind up like Ukraine or criminals bigger than you don't have such an easy time killing and raping.

Instead of outlawing guns, lets outlaw criminals---start killing off the violent predators and most of the gun murders will go away. Keep the illegals out and lot more will go away.

 

[JoeB131]

You need guns so you don't wind up like Ukraine or criminals bigger than you don't have such an easy time killing and raping.

A gun isn't going to protect you from professional soldiers in tanks.

Instead of outlawing guns, lets outlaw criminals---start killing off the violent predators and most of the gun murders will go away. Keep the illegals out and lot more will go away.

If that were true, the Death Penalty states would have lower murder rates than the non-DP states. the US would have a lower rate than the rest of the civilized world that has abolished the DP.

 

[2aguy]

We lock up 2 million people. Locking people up.



We lock up 2 million people. Locking them up doesn't work.

Murder-suicide in Danforth: Man shoots wife, then kills himself

A man in Danforth shot and killed his wife before turning the gun on himself sometime after 11 p.m. Wednesday.

www.daily-journal.com

Riverview man shoots wife, then self after forcing her car off the road

A man is dead and his wife is in serious condition after authorities say he forced her car off the road and later shot her Tuesday.

www.abcactionnews.com

Troy man shoots wife, kills daughter before shooting himself as officers approach, police say

A Troy man shot his wife and killed his daughter inside a condo before fatally shooting himself as police approached his vehicle, officials said.

www.clickondetroit.com

But, but, but, murders are all gang related... just ask Dick Tiny.




Europe has had social programs as long as we have had them, and their out of wedlock birth rates are as high as ours or higher.

in fact, the ONLY significant difference is gun proliferation.



Guy, let's lock you up in one of these resorts for a month, you can tell me what a great time you had while you are bleeding out of your rectum.

Moron, the vast majority of shootings are criminal murdering their competition and rivals and then catching friends and family when they miss those guys...you idiot.

Europe doesn't have an over 75% out of wedlock birthrate....American blacks, trapped in democrat party controlled cities do......and the 7% population of young black males commit over 50% of our murders.....murdering other young black males......majority from fatherless homes.

 

[JoeB131]

Moron, the vast majority of shootings are criminal murdering their competition and rivals and then catching friends and family when they miss those guys...you idiot.

nope. It's domestic violence. It's why all the other crime stayed flat in 2020 and Murder went up... people locked in their homes, getting on each other's nerves and damned, someone pulled out that gun.

Europe doesn't have an over 75% out of wedlock birthrate....American blacks, trapped in democrat party controlled cities do......and the 7% population of young black males commit over 50% of our murders.....murdering other young black males......majority from fatherless homes.

Actually, France has a rate close to 60%... and they don't have the problems we have.

 

[2aguy]

nope. It's domestic violence. It's why all the other crime stayed flat in 2020 and Murder went up... people locked in their homes, getting on each other's nerves and damned, someone pulled out that gun.





Actually, France has a rate close to 60%... and they don't have the problems we have.

We didn't go through the destruction of World War 2 the way they did, and our destruction of our families began in the 1960s....we've had more time to create the damage from fatherless homes...but they are getting there too........

 

[2aguy]

nope. It's domestic violence. It's why all the other crime stayed flat in 2020 and Murder went up... people locked in their homes, getting on each other's nerves and damned, someone pulled out that gun.





Actually, France has a rate close to 60%... and they don't have the problems we have.

The democrat party attack on police escalated in 2020 you dope, so instead of proactively going after the gang members and other criminals, finding illegal guns and arresting the felons, the cops stopped getting out of their cars for everything except 911 calls.......then the democrats ramped up their revolving door for releasing gun offenders.......

that is what drives our increase in gun crime......how do we know...actual history and experience....

You can't explain how it is that for 27 years our gun murder rate went down, our gun crime rate went down as more people, not less, bought, owned and actually carried guns...

The democrat war on police and their revolving door policy releasing violent gun offenders explains it all.....

Over the last 27 years, up to the year 2015, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019...guess what happened...

New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.


This means that access to guns does not create gun crime........

Why do our democrat party controlled cities have gun crime problems?

1) the democrat party keeps releasing violent gun offenders...they have created a revolving door for criminals who use guns, and will release even the most serious gun offenders over and over again....why? Probably because they realise that normal people don't use their guns for crime, so if they want to push gun control, they need criminals to shoot people.....so they keep releasing them....

2) The democrat party keeps attacking the police.....driving the officers into not doing pro-active policing, cutting detective forces so that murders go unsolved..........

 

[JoeB131]

We didn't go through the destruction of World War 2 the way they did, and our destruction of our families began in the 1960s....we've had more time to create the damage from fatherless homes...but they are getting there too........

by your "logic", then, they should have had their breakdown in society in the 1960's when all those "fatherless" children came of age. They didn't. They didn't then and they don't now.

Fatherless homes isn't the problem, availability of guns is.

You can't explain how it is that for 27 years our gun murder rate went down, our gun crime rate went down as more people, not less, bought, owned and actually carried guns...

Sure I can. for the last 27 years, the Baby Boomers have aged out of the "young, dumbass" stage. Most young people engage in dumbass in their late teens or early 20's. The last of the baby Boomers hit that age in - wait for it - 1990.

Not that our gun murder numbers have gone down. They've actually gone up.

The democrat party attack on police escalated in 2020 you dope, so instead of proactively going after the gang members and other criminals, finding illegal guns and arresting the felons, the cops stopped getting out of their cars for everything except 911 calls.......then the democrats ramped up their revolving door for releasing gun offenders.......

Yeah, how is it they go after "gang members" and end up shooting 12 year olds playing with toys?

If attacks on police escalated, we'd have seen more of them killed in the line of duty, not less. The only reason why line of duty deaths went up in 2020 was because so many cops died of Covid (AKA Trump Plague(TM)).

Nope, murders spiked in 2020 because so many people were locked up with their family members, along with the economic burden of Trump Recession(TM).

 

[Blues Man]

And he was still able to get a gun.

ILLEGALLY