This is a very complex issue and your standpoint on the matter is very simplistic. The biggest problem I have was the takeover and I don't think a lot of Americans do realize that it was a non-peaceful annexation (seizure) of a territory, a pretty nice one too. So I do feel very strongly that the Palestinians are being subjugated by Jewish Zionists.
At the same time as another put it, if we were to support Palestinians and not Israel than we would lose the only real democracy in the region and the Palestinians would probably try and establish a Sharia State, Shiite Muslims would rise up and war with not just Jews but the Western world. We can all see how the Middle East is a fragile place and changing the balance in anyway can lead to a whole chain of events. The Middle East often thinks Americans and even the American Govt. are working against them. In the case of Palestine, we are not helpers and the entire move since WWII which wasn't an American thing but rather a coalition of many countries, many bribed that brought this change. And don't forget that Millions of Jews had been killed and the population was decimated. The problem really roots in fear, the Zionists should not have tried to make a state that was a Jewish state, but a free state. That is an American ideal and even though our founders were strong believers in Christ, our Govt is not a Christian state but a free state. I don't see that much wrong with a sovereign nation being concerned about its interests, and security. This isn't an American issue, this is a Global issue and really the UN needs to recognize that it is not an imperial magistrate and all should get a say and it should be inclusive for subjugated people. But overall I have seen a lot of what America has done in its history and recent history, covert operations the wiki leaks cables etc. Our earlier history is plagued with a lot of mismanagement, but as we have formed a more perfect union, we generally are working for the benevolence of the people that follow in our belief that people have the right to liberty and an accountable justice system. The people of Israel do provide their people liberty, sometimes at the expense of others, but in comparison to the other states in the region, they are a better example than most. So how do you change the problem, with out causing their to be an uprising, making sure the Jewish community doesn't get dragged into a larger regional war, and how do you protect the interests of all the players involved including states in the region- Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, European states, Ethiopia and America.
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That is a good post J Morton.
I don't agree with everything you have put, but clearly you are way ahead of most Americans in your appreciation and understanding of the issues, and honest in your summary.
I would suggest that what Palestinians do with their territory is really up to them, and not to be anticipated by us, nor to be a barrier to us working for them to have it. You cannot refuse to give people back a car stolen from them because you have fears they may drive badly.
Of course, offering "driving lessons" is an option, but not a condition.
Israel exists and will continue, until it collapsed because of its own greed and corruption. It is NOT a democracy, despite the propaganda. It is an ethnocracy - more racist than South Aftica, and more racist than if had the KKK set up an independent state in Alabama.
Israel is European in its education standards and a First World country - which maybe makes it seem more 'like us' which you assume is good, rather than the more arabic looking poorer, more badly managed states around. This is a fallacy. Israel is not a model for other states, ours or theirs.
Arabic states have been dominated by Israel, Europe and the US for a long time, either by direct influence - bribes, supporting their tyrants, and in deciding on their territory / borders. If we have been unable to corrupt them we have pumped billions of dollars of weapons into them. With predictable results.
Given time, they will sort themselves out, just a Europe did. But we have to stay out of it, or do good, rather than arming everyone for OUR short term gain.
Israel is an evil place, and it does more evil by intent, by policy, and for gain. It needs to back off and keep its evil within its own borders, as a minimum standard. Sadly the US of A enables it to do just exactly what it wants.
For this reason many now see the USA as the main sinner and the main culprit. Israel is just the rabid dog.
So be aware. All the instability you sow in the region will only continue to reveal America's character to the world.
The whole world is losing patience with Israel and with the US. Your fire power will protect it for only so long.
