Why We Don't Have Universal Health Care.

[Crepitus]

We don't have universal health care because we don't want universal health care. For the same reasons we don't want a universal food supply or universal housing (prisons), or universal religion or universal education or universal whatever the **** government wants to control next.

FAKE NEWS!!

Poll: Nearly 2 in 3 Americans Say Government Should Ensure Health Care Coverage

The US is the only wealthy country in the world without universal health care.

truthout.org

As you can see we do want it.

 

[westwall]

Dude, other capitalist countries have universal health care too.

Yeah. How is it working out for them? The NHS is failing in the UK, and the Canadian system is so great their politicians come to the USA for their operations.

Huh....

 

[Woodznutz]

FAKE NEWS!!

Poll: Nearly 2 in 3 Americans Say Government Should Ensure Health Care Coverage

The US is the only wealthy country in the world without universal health care.

truthout.org

As you can see we do want it.

People in hell want ice water.

 

[Foxfyre]

You know, like all the other developed nations (among others) have. The reason is because of the Insurance industry and the money they can get politicians to take. I say we hang the insurance industry out to dry.

Before the government got involved in our healthcare and lawyers made their living suing people for 'negligence' or whatever offense they could identify or manufacture, it was affordable for most and the finest in the world.

Insurance was to cover most of a hospital stay and other serious situations. It did not cover routine office visits to the doctor, routine vaccinations and such that people paid for out of pocket.

But government keeps getting more and more involved in our healthcare so that we are dependent on government and/or insurance now. And because most of the professional politicians at both the state and national levels are attorneys, they refuse to enact litigation reform so that doctors are not constantly sued and malpractice insurance premiums are off the charts. (A surgeon in most states can pay as much as $50,000/yr or more for malpractice insurance, a gynecologist up to $200,000/yr.)

This seriously contributes to fewer people going into to those fields.

But I don't think the answer is government managed healthcare for all.

 

[Woodznutz]

Before the government got involved in our healthcare and lawyers made their living suing people for 'negligence' or whatever offense they could identify or manufacture, it was affordable for most and the finest in the world.

Over a million visits to the ED by drug overdoses doesn't help, not to mention the visits for injuries suffered from beatings, knifings, and shootings.

 

[Crepitus]

Yeah. How is it working out for them? The NHS is failing in the UK, and the Canadian system is so great their politicians come to the USA for their operations.

Huh....

That's just RWNJ propaganda. None of them are failing.

 

[Crepitus]

People in hell want ice water.

Meaningless distraction. Please don't.

 

[Foxfyre]

Over a million visits to the ED by drug overdoses doesn't help.

Tens of millions of migrants having access to the healthcare system hasn't helped either.

 

[Woodznutz]

Meaningless distraction. Please don't.

People in hell put themselves there, then want others to comfort them. People who can least afford illness make themselves ill, then want others to pay their medical bills. There's no mystery here.

 

[Woodznutz]

Tens of millions of migrants having access to the healthcare system hasn't helped either.

True. The EDs are their go-to destination when sick or injured. Most have no insurance, and the hospitals can't turn them away.

 

[Rambunctious]

Universal healthcare is mediocre healthcare with year long wait times.... If anyone thinks universal healthcare means free healthcare you are dreaming... there would still be high premiums and copay's with government managed care....

 

[Woodznutz]

Universal healthcare is mediocre healthcare with year long wait times.... If anyone thinks universal healthcare means free healthcare you are dreaming... there would still be high premiums and copay's with government managed care....

I waited five months for an appointment with an ENT doctor and wound up only seeing a physician's assistant. This at a hospital with more than a dozen certified ENT's (Ear, nose, and throat doctors) on staff.

 

[Donald H]

Socially responsible reform in America can never happen with a fascist regime in government.

That's the exact opposite of socialism and even communism's most valued attractions.

 

[westwall]

That's just RWNJ propaganda. None of them are failing.

Every week there is a new story about the failures of the NHS. In some areas the average wait time for an ambulance is 36 hours.

In a couple of places it was 96 hours.

That sound good to you?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

RWNJ prop does not help obscure the fact that most Americans want universal health care.

It would cost 30% less than it does now.

These figures have proven over and over again, so ignore the RWNJs.

 

[Woodznutz]

RWNJ prop does not help obscure the fact that most Americans want universal health care.

It would cost 30% less than it does now.

These figures have proven over and over again, so ignore the RWNJs.

RWNJ's are healthier mentally and physically than liberals, so of course their stance on healthcare/insurance is different. I'm slim, trim, and healthy and I can't imagine thinking like an obese, pimple-faced liberal when it comes to healthcare.

 

[dblack]

For those of you who want universal healthcare, does the idea of MAGA controlling your health care bother you? At all?

 

[Foxfyre]

True. The EDs are their go-to destination when sick or injured. Most have no insurance, and the hospitals can't turn them away.

Fact. But the urgent care and ER facilities can charge them now. Which didn't happen under Biden. They won't pay of course, but they will be leery of a lot more scrutiny when they got go to those places.

 

[Concerned American]

I have received better care from NP and PA then doctors on occasion.

So go to them, no one is stopping you. I prefer to get the qualifications that I pay for.

 

[Woodznutz]

Fact. But the urgent care and ER facilities can charge them now. Which didn't happen under Biden. They won't pay of course, but they will be leery of a lot more scrutiny when they got go to those places.

Non-payment should become a permanent part of their credit record.