Why wasnt Obama impeached for starting 5 wars?

[Dragonlady]

when did they vote to end the authorization of the use of force?

The Authorizing resolution didn't name the President, or a time frame. In all fairness, Trump could reasonably claim that his attack on Iran was authorized under that Resolution.

 

[hadit]

There was a declaration of war during Obama's presidency.

Details, please. And cite the source.

 

[hadit]

God said thou shalt not kill, yet he kills.

No, He said not to MURDER. Difference there. Heck, the Law prescribes the death penalty for certain offenses. Also, He has authority you don't. Just like you cannot approach your neighbor, slam him to the ground, restrain his hands behind his back and put him into a jail cell until he sees a judge, but a cop can, God can do things you can't.

 

[struth]

The Authorizing resolution didn't name the President, or a time frame. In all fairness, Trump could reasonably claim that his attack on Iran was authorized under that Resolution.

Yes, that's what I thought, there was no vote to end it. Trump is well within his rights to take out Iran's nuclear weapons, there is a number of different ways.

 

[Nostra]

Because Obama didn't start 5 wars, that's why. You're even dumber and more gullible than you seem.

Sure he did. We are playing by today's dimtard rules, Simp.

You drop a bomb, you got us into a QUAGMIRE.

Please try to keep up.

 

[GLASNOST]

Sure we agree on that
Residents of US territories and protectorates are U.S. citizens,

I suspect you are right.

which is why you don't nead a passport to fly to Puerto Rico and back.

That proves nothing. US citizens might not need a passport for travel in Canada or Mexico either.

 

[hadit]

Fake OP.
Obama was a legitimate, qualified POTUS.
Trump is not. You can't compare the two as if they are equals. It's like comparing a Ferrari to a Ford Maverick.

Actually, you not only CAN compare the two as equals, you MUST. You might as well say Quid Pro Joe can't be compared to TRUMP! because Joe was out to lunch his entire term.

 

[Nostra]

The Authorizing resolution didn't name the President, or a time frame. In all fairness, Trump could reasonably claim that his attack on Iran was authorized under that Resolution.

So why are you pissing and moaning about it then?

 

[Papageorgio]

It seems there was not concern about Obama starting 5 wars.

President Obama, who hoped to sow peace, instead led the nation in war

President Obama came to office vowing to end America's foreign wars and take the country off its permanent war footing. He leaves a very different legacy as he prepares to hand his commander-in-chief responsibilities to Donald Trump.

www.latimes.com

Libya, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Somalia

He should have been impeached if you use the same criteria that those who are calling for Trump’s impeachment are using.

This is nothing but politics and it is counterproductive and even damaging to the country.

Can someone explain how Obama’s attacks were worthy of not having Congressional approval? Why no impeachment?

Because Democrats believe that anything a Republican does is motivated by some dark evil, like their motives and Republicans are logical.

 

[struth]

Why wasn't Obama impeached, when the Republicans controlled Congress,?

They threatened it, on Libya. Only problem was, it was a humanitarian UN action that saved 10s of 1000s, and many Republicans were fine with it. These differences matter.

Then Assad gassed his own people. Obama called their bluff , and said "They crossed the Red Line, vote on it, Congress. "

Naturally, the cowardly Republicans wouldn't even allow a vote on it. After years of braying that Congress should be the decider.

So, Obama didn't respond. Then the GOP called him weak for not responding.

hahaha Obama's war on Libya wasn't a UN or humanitarian action....and it was a massive blunder that lead to the death of the first US Ambassador in decades and Libya turning into a massive slave trade operation.

Yes, Obama didn't enforce his red line, and allowed Assad to use WMDs. It was sad and tragic.....and I am not sure what you mean about the GOP wouldn't allow a vote....there was a vote: Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against the Government of Syria to Respond to Use of Chemical Weapons - Wikipedia

but when it seemed clear that there was bipartisan support against it, Obama made a deal with Putin and brought him into Syria....another massive cluster

 

[MagicMike]

Actually, you not only CAN compare the two as equals, you MUST. You might as well say Quid Pro Joe can't be compared to TRUMP! because Joe was out to lunch his entire term.

Who told you Biden was "out of touch" his entire term? Also aren't you concerned right now about Trump's signs of dementia? He's only 6 months into his term and already the evidence of his cognitive decline is on full display daily.

 

[hadit]

Who told you Biden was "out of touch" his entire term? Also aren't you concerned right now about Trump's signs of dementia? He's only 6 months into his term and already the evidence of his cognitive decline is on full display daily.

No one had to tell me, I could see and hear it plainly for myself. I saw him get lost between Marine One and the White House. I saw him needing a handler to lead him off the stage after the debate. I heard his mumbles and incoherency.

I also heard the guy who made him VP say that we should never underestimate his ability to really mess things up.

 

[struth]

Who told you Biden was "out of touch" his entire term? Also aren't you concerned right now about Trump's signs of dementia? He's only 6 months into his term and already the evidence of his cognitive decline is on full display daily.

You voted for Xiden, you are qualified to determine the signs of dementia.

 

[Dragonlady]

Was he retroactively IMPEACHED and charged with war crimes?

Trump wasn't "retroactively impeached", nor has he been charged with war crimes. Netanyahu has been charged with war crimes, as well he should.

 

[Dragonlady]

No one had to tell me, I could see and hear it plainly for myself. I saw him get lost between Marine One and the White House. I saw him needing a handler to lead him off the stage after the debate. I heard his mumbles and incoherency.

I also heard the guy who made him VP say that we should never underestimate his ability to really mess things up.

You saw a LOT of AI videos of Biden being wandering off or lead around. The actual footage of him showed an entirely different story. Biden had gone to talk to soldiers which were edited out of the AI video.

Funny that you heard Obama say it, but Obama never said anything such thing in public. In fact, that quote came from any "anonymous source" who told a Politico reporter that Obama said it in a private conversation, so unless you're the guy Obama said it to, you're a ******* liar.

From the New York Post:

"“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f–k things up,” the former president told an unnamed Democrat, who told Politico about the conversation— reportedly reflective of a strained history between the two."

Barack Obama reportedly skeptical of Joe Biden’s 2020 White House run

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f**k things up,” the former president told an unnamed Democrat, who told Politico about the conversation— reportedly reflective of a strained history between t…

nypost.com

 

[hadit]

You saw a LOT of AI videos of Biden being wandering off or lead around. The actual footage of him showed an entirely different story. Biden had gone to talk to soldiers which were edited out of the AI video.

I didn't even reference that occasion, so why did you? I did reference the end of the debate in which TRUMP! simply turned around and walked off stage, no problem, with intention and direction, knowing where he was going, etc. Quid Pro Joe stayed at the lectern, staring vacantly until Jill came up to him, took his hand and led him shuffling offstage. Are you going to claim that was produced by AI? Very convenient, that, yelling "AI!" when a video shows something you don't like, About as credible as yelling, "Fake News!" at a story. If it was AI produced, which AI produced it?

Funny that you heard Obama say it, but Obama never said anything such thing in public. In fact, that quote came from any "anonymous source" who told a Politico reporter that Obama said it in a private conversation, so unless you're the guy Obama said it to, you're a ******* liar.

From the New York Post:

"“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f–k things up,” the former president told an unnamed Democrat, who told Politico about the conversation— reportedly reflective of a strained history between the two."

Barack Obama reportedly skeptical of Joe Biden’s 2020 White House run

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f**k things up,” the former president told an unnamed Democrat, who told Politico about the conversation— reportedly reflective of a strained history between t…

nypost.com

Okay, now you don't believe an anonymous source? Are you consistent in that stance, or do you believe them when they say something with which you agree? Also, are you calling Politico (hardcore democrats) liars, since they reported that a democrat gave them the quote?

 

[struth]

You saw a LOT of AI videos of Biden being wandering off or lead around. The actual footage of him showed an entirely different story. Biden had gone to talk to soldiers which were edited out of the AI video.

Funny that you heard Obama say it, but Obama never said anything such thing in public. In fact, that quote came from any "anonymous source" who told a Politico reporter that Obama said it in a private conversation, so unless you're the guy Obama said it to, you're a ******* liar.

From the New York Post:

"“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f–k things up,” the former president told an unnamed Democrat, who told Politico about the conversation— reportedly reflective of a strained history between the two."

Barack Obama reportedly skeptical of Joe Biden’s 2020 White House run

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f**k things up,” the former president told an unnamed Democrat, who told Politico about the conversation— reportedly reflective of a strained history between t…

nypost.com

Here's the video he isn't talking to any soldiers....he's yelling something to himself. He's out to lunch

 

[Papageorgio]

You saw a LOT of AI videos of Biden being wandering off or lead around. The actual footage of him showed an entirely different story. Biden had gone to talk to soldiers which were edited out of the AI video.

Funny that you heard Obama say it, but Obama never said anything such thing in public. In fact, that quote came from any "anonymous source" who told a Politico reporter that Obama said it in a private conversation, so unless you're the guy Obama said it to, you're a ******* liar.

From the New York Post:

"“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f–k things up,” the former president told an unnamed Democrat, who told Politico about the conversation— reportedly reflective of a strained history between the two."

Barack Obama reportedly skeptical of Joe Biden’s 2020 White House run

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f**k things up,” the former president told an unnamed Democrat, who told Politico about the conversation— reportedly reflective of a strained history between t…

nypost.com

The actual footage showed a man that had dementia, he had the same actions and looks on his face and I my mother had. She had moments of clarity but for the most part she could get lost and flustered easily, which you could see in Biden. What irritates me is that the liberal media and the DNC lied to us about Biden’s condition. Even to this day after all that has been revealed you pretend he was fine. I put that in the same category as those that believe the 2000, 2004, 2016 and 2020 were all stolen.

 

[sealybobo]

It seems there was not concern about Obama starting 5 wars.

President Obama, who hoped to sow peace, instead led the nation in war

President Obama came to office vowing to end America's foreign wars and take the country off its permanent war footing. He leaves a very different legacy as he prepares to hand his commander-in-chief responsibilities to Donald Trump.

www.latimes.com

Libya, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Somalia

He should have been impeached if you use the same criteria that those who are calling for Trump’s impeachment are using.

This is nothing but politics and it is counterproductive and even damaging to the country.

Can someone explain how Obama’s attacks were worthy of not having Congressional approval? Why no impeachment?

Should we impeach Trump for starting a war?

Trump authorises CIA operations in Venezuela, says mulling land attack​

US president refused to directly answer whether he was trying to topple the Maduro government as tensions escalate.
United States President Donald Trump on Wednesday confirmed that he has authorised the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to carry out covert operations in Venezuela.

He added that his administration was also mulling land-based military operations inside Venezuela, as tensions between Washington and Caracas soar over multiple deadly US strikes on Venezuelan boats in the Caribbean Sea in recent weeks.

“Why did you authorise the CIA to go into Venezuela?”

“I authorised for two reasons, really,” Trump replied. “Number one, they have emptied their prisons into the United States of America.”

“The other thing,” he continued, was Venezuela’s role in drug-trafficking. He then appeared to imply that the US would take actions on foreign soil to prevent the flow of narcotics and other drugs.

“We have a lot of drugs coming in from Venezuela,” Trump said. “A lot of the Venezuelan drugs come in through the sea.  So you get to see that. But we’re going to stop them by land also.”

Trump’s remarks mark the latest escalation in his campaign against Venezuela, whose leader, Nicolas Maduro, has long been a target for the US president, stretching back to Trump’s first term in office.

Already, both leaders have bolstered their military forces along the Caribbean Sea in a show of potential force.

The Venezuelan government hit back at Trump’s latest comments and the authorised CIA operations, accusing the US of violating international law and the UN Charter.

“The purpose of US actions is to create legitimacy for an operation to change the regime in Venezuela, with the ultimate goal of taking control of all the country’s resources,” the Maduro government said in a statement.

“No to regime change that reminds us so much of the (overthrows) in the failed eternal wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and so on,” Maduro said at a televised event

“Does the CIA have authority to take out Maduro?” one journalist asked at the White House on Wednesday.

“Oh, I don’t want to answer a question like that. That’s a ridiculous question for me to be given,” Trump said, demurring. “Not really a ridiculous question, but wouldn’t it be a ridiculous question for me to answer?”

He then offered an addendum: “But I think Venezuela’s feeling heat.”

Now imagine Obama saying shit like that when he waged his 5 wars. LOL

Since taking office for a second term, Trump has sought to assume wartime powers – using laws like the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 – by alleging that Venezuela had masterminded an “invasion” of migrants and criminal groups onto US soil.

He has offered little proof for his assertions, though, and his statements have been undercut by the assessments of his own intelligence community.

In May, for example, a declassified US report revealed that intelligence officials had found no evidence directly linking Maduro to criminal groups like Tren de Aragua, as Trump has alleged.

Trump lying us into another war?

Still, on Wednesday, Trump revisited the baseless claim that Venezuela under Maduro had sent prisoners and people with mental health conditions to destabilise the US.

“Many countries have done it, but not like Venezuela.  They were down and dirty,” Trump said.

The authorisation of CIA operations inside Venezuela is the latest indication that Trump has been signing secret proclamations to lay the groundwork for lethal action overseas, despite insisting in public that he seeks peace globally.

Give this man a Nobel Peace Prize!

In August, for instance, anonymous sources told the US media that Trump had also signed an order allowing the US military to take action against drug-trafficking cartels and other Latin American criminal networks.

And in October, it emerged that Trump had sent a memo to the US Congress asserting that the country was in a “non-international armed conflict” with the cartels, whom he termed “unlawful combatants”.

War with South America? Who's next? All the cocaine comes from Colombia, Peru, and Bolivia.

I think this is Regime Change like Bush did to Iraq in the 2000's

 

[g5000]

It seems there was not concern about Obama starting 5 wars.

President Obama, who hoped to sow peace, instead led the nation in war

President Obama came to office vowing to end America's foreign wars and take the country off its permanent war footing. He leaves a very different legacy as he prepares to hand his commander-in-chief responsibilities to Donald Trump.

www.latimes.com

Libya, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Somalia

Um...retard? Obama did not start the war in Iraq.

The wars in Syria, Yemen, and Somalia were burning long before Obama came along.

As for Libya:



I can’t believe what our country is doing. Qaddafi in Libya is killing thousands of people, nobody knows how bad it is, and we’re sitting around, we have soldiers all have the Middle East, and we’re not bringing them in to stop this horrible carnage and that’s what it is: It’s a carnage.

You talk about things that have happened in history; this could be one of the worst. Now we should go in, we should stop this guy, which would be very easy and very quick. We could do it surgically, stop him from doing it, and save these lives. This is absolutely nuts. We don’t want to get involved and you’re gonna end up with something like you’ve never seen before.

Now, ultimately, the people will appreciate it. They're gonna end up taking over the country eventually, but the people will appreciate it, and they should pay us back.

But we have go in to save these lives; these people are being slaughtered like animals. It’s horrible what’s going on; it has to be stopped.

We should do on a humanitarian basis, immediately go into Libya, knock this guy out very quickly, very surgically, very effectively, and save the lives.

- Donald J. Trump