Why wasnt Obama impeached for starting 5 wars?

[Dragonlady]

Should we impeach Trump for starting a war?

Trump authorises CIA operations in Venezuela, says mulling land attack​

US president refused to directly answer whether he was trying to topple the Maduro government as tensions escalate.
United States President Donald Trump on Wednesday confirmed that he has authorised the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to carry out covert operations in Venezuela.

He added that his administration was also mulling land-based military operations inside Venezuela, as tensions between Washington and Caracas soar over multiple deadly US strikes on Venezuelan boats in the Caribbean Sea in recent weeks.

“Why did you authorise the CIA to go into Venezuela?”

“I authorised for two reasons, really,” Trump replied. “Number one, they have emptied their prisons into the United States of America.”

“The other thing,” he continued, was Venezuela’s role in drug-trafficking. He then appeared to imply that the US would take actions on foreign soil to prevent the flow of narcotics and other drugs.

“We have a lot of drugs coming in from Venezuela,” Trump said. “A lot of the Venezuelan drugs come in through the sea.  So you get to see that. But we’re going to stop them by land also.”

Trump’s remarks mark the latest escalation in his campaign against Venezuela, whose leader, Nicolas Maduro, has long been a target for the US president, stretching back to Trump’s first term in office.

Already, both leaders have bolstered their military forces along the Caribbean Sea in a show of potential force.

The Venezuelan government hit back at Trump’s latest comments and the authorised CIA operations, accusing the US of violating international law and the UN Charter.

“The purpose of US actions is to create legitimacy for an operation to change the regime in Venezuela, with the ultimate goal of taking control of all the country’s resources,” the Maduro government said in a statement.

“No to regime change that reminds us so much of the (overthrows) in the failed eternal wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and so on,” Maduro said at a televised event

“Does the CIA have authority to take out Maduro?” one journalist asked at the White House on Wednesday.

“Oh, I don’t want to answer a question like that. That’s a ridiculous question for me to be given,” Trump said, demurring. “Not really a ridiculous question, but wouldn’t it be a ridiculous question for me to answer?”

He then offered an addendum: “But I think Venezuela’s feeling heat.”

Now imagine Obama saying shit like that when he waged his 5 wars. LOL

Since taking office for a second term, Trump has sought to assume wartime powers – using laws like the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 – by alleging that Venezuela had masterminded an “invasion” of migrants and criminal groups onto US soil.

He has offered little proof for his assertions, though, and his statements have been undercut by the assessments of his own intelligence community.

In May, for example, a declassified US report revealed that intelligence officials had found no evidence directly linking Maduro to criminal groups like Tren de Aragua, as Trump has alleged.

Trump lying us into another war?

Still, on Wednesday, Trump revisited the baseless claim that Venezuela under Maduro had sent prisoners and people with mental health conditions to destabilise the US.

“Many countries have done it, but not like Venezuela.  They were down and dirty,” Trump said.

The authorisation of CIA operations inside Venezuela is the latest indication that Trump has been signing secret proclamations to lay the groundwork for lethal action overseas, despite insisting in public that he seeks peace globally.

Give this man a Nobel Peace Prize!

In August, for instance, anonymous sources told the US media that Trump had also signed an order allowing the US military to take action against drug-trafficking cartels and other Latin American criminal networks.

And in October, it emerged that Trump had sent a memo to the US Congress asserting that the country was in a “non-international armed conflict” with the cartels, whom he termed “unlawful combatants”.

War with South America? Who's next? All the cocaine comes from Colombia, Peru, and Bolivia.

I think this is Regime Change like Bush did to Iraq in the 2000's

Venezuela has a lot of oil - more than the Middle East.

Remember how Trump complained that Bush conquered Iraq but let the Iraqi's keep the oil? Trump and his rich buddies can take over the Venezuelan oil fields.

 

[GLASNOST]

Should we impeach Trump for starting a war?

​

Get Bush Baby Junior up the gallows first then we'll talk about all of the others.

 

[sealybobo]

Get Bush Baby Junior up the gallows first then we'll talk about all of the others.

Obama was just bombing terrorists in places like Libya. He didn't start any wars. And if Trump did it you would applaud.

Now Trump might actually be starting a war with South America. Over Oil? Regime change? I thought we were against that?

And if we are mad at Venesuela over cocaine, aren't we going to start bombing these three counties next? Colombia, Peru, and Bolivia is where cocaine comes from. Why Trump picking on Venesuela? We all know why.

And didn't Trump just bail out Argentina to the tune of 20 billion dollars? And at the same time he's raising American's healthcare costs?

You guys are such hypocrites.

 

[struth]

Should we impeach Trump for starting a war?

Trump authorises CIA operations in Venezuela, says mulling land attack​

US president refused to directly answer whether he was trying to topple the Maduro government as tensions escalate.
United States President Donald Trump on Wednesday confirmed that he has authorised the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to carry out covert operations in Venezuela.

He added that his administration was also mulling land-based military operations inside Venezuela, as tensions between Washington and Caracas soar over multiple deadly US strikes on Venezuelan boats in the Caribbean Sea in recent weeks.

“Why did you authorise the CIA to go into Venezuela?”

“I authorised for two reasons, really,” Trump replied. “Number one, they have emptied their prisons into the United States of America.”

“The other thing,” he continued, was Venezuela’s role in drug-trafficking. He then appeared to imply that the US would take actions on foreign soil to prevent the flow of narcotics and other drugs.

“We have a lot of drugs coming in from Venezuela,” Trump said. “A lot of the Venezuelan drugs come in through the sea.  So you get to see that. But we’re going to stop them by land also.”

Trump’s remarks mark the latest escalation in his campaign against Venezuela, whose leader, Nicolas Maduro, has long been a target for the US president, stretching back to Trump’s first term in office.

Already, both leaders have bolstered their military forces along the Caribbean Sea in a show of potential force.

The Venezuelan government hit back at Trump’s latest comments and the authorised CIA operations, accusing the US of violating international law and the UN Charter.

“The purpose of US actions is to create legitimacy for an operation to change the regime in Venezuela, with the ultimate goal of taking control of all the country’s resources,” the Maduro government said in a statement.

“No to regime change that reminds us so much of the (overthrows) in the failed eternal wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and so on,” Maduro said at a televised event

“Does the CIA have authority to take out Maduro?” one journalist asked at the White House on Wednesday.

“Oh, I don’t want to answer a question like that. That’s a ridiculous question for me to be given,” Trump said, demurring. “Not really a ridiculous question, but wouldn’t it be a ridiculous question for me to answer?”

He then offered an addendum: “But I think Venezuela’s feeling heat.”

Now imagine Obama saying shit like that when he waged his 5 wars. LOL

Since taking office for a second term, Trump has sought to assume wartime powers – using laws like the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 – by alleging that Venezuela had masterminded an “invasion” of migrants and criminal groups onto US soil.

He has offered little proof for his assertions, though, and his statements have been undercut by the assessments of his own intelligence community.

In May, for example, a declassified US report revealed that intelligence officials had found no evidence directly linking Maduro to criminal groups like Tren de Aragua, as Trump has alleged.

Trump lying us into another war?

Still, on Wednesday, Trump revisited the baseless claim that Venezuela under Maduro had sent prisoners and people with mental health conditions to destabilise the US.

“Many countries have done it, but not like Venezuela.  They were down and dirty,” Trump said.

The authorisation of CIA operations inside Venezuela is the latest indication that Trump has been signing secret proclamations to lay the groundwork for lethal action overseas, despite insisting in public that he seeks peace globally.

Give this man a Nobel Peace Prize!

In August, for instance, anonymous sources told the US media that Trump had also signed an order allowing the US military to take action against drug-trafficking cartels and other Latin American criminal networks.

And in October, it emerged that Trump had sent a memo to the US Congress asserting that the country was in a “non-international armed conflict” with the cartels, whom he termed “unlawful combatants”.

War with South America? Who's next? All the cocaine comes from Colombia, Peru, and Bolivia.

I think this is Regime Change like Bush did to Iraq in the 2000's

Since when did we start impeaching President over ordering covert operations by the CIA?

 

[struth]

Obama was just bombing terrorists in places like Libya. He didn't start any wars. And if Trump did it you would applaud.

Now Trump might actually be starting a war with South America. Over Oil? Regime change? I thought we were against that?

And if we are mad at Venesuela over cocaine, aren't we going to start bombing these three counties next? Colombia, Peru, and Bolivia is where cocaine comes from. Why Trump picking on Venesuela? We all know why.

And didn't Trump just bail out Argentina to the tune of 20 billion dollars? And at the same time he's raising American's healthcare costs?

You guys are such hypocrites.

You don't think bombing a country, like Libya, and overthrowing their Govt is starting a war?

What about bombing Yemen? Pakistan? Syria? Somelia? Obama bombed more countries then any President since WW2

You don't think the countries being bombed and invaded thought they were at war?

https://www.cnn.com/2014/09/23/politics/countries-obama-bombed

 

[GLASNOST]

Obama was just bombing terrorists in places like Libya.

You're barking up the wrong tree.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

They were peaceful bombs.

 

[GLASNOST]

Since when did we start impeaching President over ordering covert operations by the CIA? You don't think bombing a country, like Libya, and overthrowing their Govt is starting a war?

These nincompoops have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[sartre play]

How far back do you want to go? With the blame for our century's of war?

 

[GLASNOST]

How far back do you want to go? With the blame for our century's of war?

At least '53.

 

[sealybobo]

Since when did we start impeaching President over ordering covert operations by the CIA?

Since you MAGAssholes started starting threads about Obama's illegal wars.

 

[struth]

Since you MAGAssholes started starting threads about Obama's illegal wars.

how is that comment suppose to make any sense to my question? How is someone starting a thread on a message board about Obama's numerous illegal wars, relate to impeachment of a President over covert CIA operations?

Try to connect the dots here

 

[sealybobo]

Get Bush Baby Junior up the gallows first then we'll talk about all of the others.

Trump even said this once. Basically "it was wrong they went after Clinton for bs but didn't impeach Bush for lying us into Iraq". Basically that's exactly what he said.

So yea Trump believed, and turned out to be right, that he is above the law. And it turns out he is. So will the next Democratic President.

My god the rich are good at dividing us. Because you're so gullible.

 

[struth]

Trump even said this once. Basically "it was wrong they went after Clinton for bs but didn't impeach Bush for lying us into Iraq". Basically that's exactly what he said.

So yea Trump believed, and turned out to be right, that he is above the law. And it turns out he is. So will the next Democratic President.

My god the rich are good at dividing us. Because you're so gullible.

This is what he said:

He could have said, ‘Look, I don’t want to discuss it,’” Trump suggested to Matt Lauer on “The Today Show“ in October 1999. “I’ve seen politicians in New York that are scoundrels get away with that for years. ‘I don’t talk about my personal life…’ He should have done that. Instead, he had to lie.”

Clinton’s error, he said during several other interviews, led to Starr’s dogged pursual of other affairs and culminated in perjury charges — another front where Clinton failed to protect himself, said Trump.

“I’m not even sure that he shouldn’t have just gone in and taken the Fifth Amendment and said, ‘Look, I don’t get along with this man Starr. He’s after me. He’s a Republican. He’s this, he’s that,’ and, you know, just taken the Fifth Amendment,” he told Lauer. “It’s a terrible thing for a president to take the Fifth Amendment, but he probably should have done it.”

 

[GLASNOST]

..... you're so gullible.

Sod off.

 

[Papageorgio]

Should we impeach Trump for starting a war?

Trump authorises CIA operations in Venezuela, says mulling land attack​

US president refused to directly answer whether he was trying to topple the Maduro government as tensions escalate.
United States President Donald Trump on Wednesday confirmed that he has authorised the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to carry out covert operations in Venezuela.

He added that his administration was also mulling land-based military operations inside Venezuela, as tensions between Washington and Caracas soar over multiple deadly US strikes on Venezuelan boats in the Caribbean Sea in recent weeks.

“Why did you authorise the CIA to go into Venezuela?”

“I authorised for two reasons, really,” Trump replied. “Number one, they have emptied their prisons into the United States of America.”

“The other thing,” he continued, was Venezuela’s role in drug-trafficking. He then appeared to imply that the US would take actions on foreign soil to prevent the flow of narcotics and other drugs.

“We have a lot of drugs coming in from Venezuela,” Trump said. “A lot of the Venezuelan drugs come in through the sea.  So you get to see that. But we’re going to stop them by land also.”

Trump’s remarks mark the latest escalation in his campaign against Venezuela, whose leader, Nicolas Maduro, has long been a target for the US president, stretching back to Trump’s first term in office.

Already, both leaders have bolstered their military forces along the Caribbean Sea in a show of potential force.

The Venezuelan government hit back at Trump’s latest comments and the authorised CIA operations, accusing the US of violating international law and the UN Charter.

“The purpose of US actions is to create legitimacy for an operation to change the regime in Venezuela, with the ultimate goal of taking control of all the country’s resources,” the Maduro government said in a statement.

“No to regime change that reminds us so much of the (overthrows) in the failed eternal wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and so on,” Maduro said at a televised event

“Does the CIA have authority to take out Maduro?” one journalist asked at the White House on Wednesday.

“Oh, I don’t want to answer a question like that. That’s a ridiculous question for me to be given,” Trump said, demurring. “Not really a ridiculous question, but wouldn’t it be a ridiculous question for me to answer?”

He then offered an addendum: “But I think Venezuela’s feeling heat.”

Now imagine Obama saying shit like that when he waged his 5 wars. LOL

Since taking office for a second term, Trump has sought to assume wartime powers – using laws like the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 – by alleging that Venezuela had masterminded an “invasion” of migrants and criminal groups onto US soil.

He has offered little proof for his assertions, though, and his statements have been undercut by the assessments of his own intelligence community.

In May, for example, a declassified US report revealed that intelligence officials had found no evidence directly linking Maduro to criminal groups like Tren de Aragua, as Trump has alleged.

Trump lying us into another war?

Still, on Wednesday, Trump revisited the baseless claim that Venezuela under Maduro had sent prisoners and people with mental health conditions to destabilise the US.

“Many countries have done it, but not like Venezuela.  They were down and dirty,” Trump said.

The authorisation of CIA operations inside Venezuela is the latest indication that Trump has been signing secret proclamations to lay the groundwork for lethal action overseas, despite insisting in public that he seeks peace globally.

Give this man a Nobel Peace Prize!

In August, for instance, anonymous sources told the US media that Trump had also signed an order allowing the US military to take action against drug-trafficking cartels and other Latin American criminal networks.

And in October, it emerged that Trump had sent a memo to the US Congress asserting that the country was in a “non-international armed conflict” with the cartels, whom he termed “unlawful combatants”.

War with South America? Who's next? All the cocaine comes from Colombia, Peru, and Bolivia.

I think this is Regime Change like Bush did to Iraq in the 2000's

We sure don’t want you to lose your drug connection.

 

[sealybobo]

This is what he said:

He could have said, ‘Look, I don’t want to discuss it,’” Trump suggested to Matt Lauer on “The Today Show“ in October 1999. “I’ve seen politicians in New York that are scoundrels get away with that for years. ‘I don’t talk about my personal life…’ He should have done that. Instead, he had to lie.”

Clinton’s error, he said during several other interviews, led to Starr’s dogged pursual of other affairs and culminated in perjury charges — another front where Clinton failed to protect himself, said Trump.

“I’m not even sure that he shouldn’t have just gone in and taken the Fifth Amendment and said, ‘Look, I don’t get along with this man Starr. He’s after me. He’s a Republican. He’s this, he’s that,’ and, you know, just taken the Fifth Amendment,” he told Lauer. “It’s a terrible thing for a president to take the Fifth Amendment, but he probably should have done it.”

While on the campaign trail in 2016, Donald Trump repeatedly stated that pleading the Fifth Amendment was an indication of guilt. Then in 2022, he reversed that position, and invoked his Fifth Amendment rights during a deposition.

 

[BlindBoo]

Because he didn't start a single one of those so called wars?

Venezuela has a lot of oil - more than the Middle East.

Remember how Trump complained that Bush conquered Iraq but let the Iraqi's keep the oil? Trump and his rich buddies can take over the Venezuelan oil fields.

Benedict Donald is an idiot. Iraqi's oil fields were internationalized after the in US invasion and occupation.

Why does the US still control every penny of Iraqi oil revenues?

Washington has maintained control over Iraq’s oil revenues since its illegal 2003 invasion – a financial and economic subjugation that undermines Iraqi sovereignty and denies it access to its own national treasure.

thecradle.co

 

[struth]

While on the campaign trail in 2016, Donald Trump repeatedly stated that pleading the Fifth Amendment was an indication of guilt. Then in 2022, he reversed that position, and invoked his Fifth Amendment rights during a deposition.

It seems like before 2022 he was saying it was ok.

 

[BlindBoo]

You don't think bombing a country, like Libya, and overthrowing their Govt is starting a war?

What about bombing Yemen? Pakistan? Syria? Somelia? Obama bombed more countries then any President since WW2

You don't think the countries being bombed and invaded thought they were at war?

https://www.cnn.com/2014/09/23/politics/countries-obama-bombed

They shouldn't be hosting terrorist organization like Al Qaeda and others who want to kill Americans.

The action Obama took were mostly under the 2001 AUMF against international terrorists like those who blind sided us on 9-11. You don't like what Obama did to those terrorist. Do you have some kind of sympathy for those terrorist who want to kill Americans? I mean GWB made it clear after 9-11 that if those governments where these terrorist operate from can't control them, we will! So **** um.