Why Trump Won

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Like I said, it's not mathematically impossible. It kind of actually happened...
For one thing, a sampling of ten states does not a survey make. Second, you ignore the fact that Hillary also barely won some states like Virginia. Third, the popular vote still does not mean a thing, but if nothing else, you are proving my point that Hillary's "popular vote victory" was mainly a function of TWO states, New York and California, and that is EXACTLY the very thing the Founders sought to avoid--- --- --- a president being elected which only represented one special, local group ignoring the rest of the country.

But more important, like all Libs, you are trying to again deflect from the real point of the topic here, that the claim that Trump's states were all empty is a bald faced lie. Other than ONE STATE, California, in every other state ranking each candidate won, Trump's state was more populous than Hillary's.

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And the final point of mine you are helping to prove is that it isn't the Right that is brainwashed but the Left. Your very figures show that a preponderance of Hillary's votes came from TWO SMALL AREAS: around NYC and SanFran / LA. Now STATISTICALLY, there is almost a zero random chance that literally MILLIONS of people in a given small area should all vote the same way! UNLESS, there was some external force steering them to do so.

So thanks for proving the point that:
  1. Leftards are brainwashed, controlled zombies who get plugged into the central thinknet of huge megalopolises strictly controlled by the Democrats.
  2. And that the Founder's system worked, in keeping your mobs of radical socialists from usurping power from the other 99% of the nation.
Ok.

You're arguing that Hillary won some states by small margins, that the popular vote does not mean anything, that the intentions of the founding fathers were to avoid catering to densely populated areas, that liberals claim Trump's states were empty, that there are external forces causing people to think alike in the same region.

You're all over the place. None of this has anything to do with the specific statement of yours that I have countered. Once again, here is the single isolated statement of yours that I am countering:

"SO THE QUESTION BECOMES: Facts do not lie. How does Trump win THIRTY states, win the popular vote in each, and nearly all of his states were more populated than the concomitant state won by Hillary in the first place, yet STILL COME OUT LOSING THE NATIONAL POPULAR COUNT by 2.8 million? Heads up: THAT IS MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE."

There is nothing in that quoted statement of yours about founding fathers intentions, central thinknets, empty states, or anything else you brought up in this diatribe of yours. I'm not sure if you're having a difficult time focusing on it or if you're intentionally trying to throw in unrelated statements, but I'll once again direct you to the specific quote of yours above that I have countered. My argument is with that specific statement and my argument with that is a mathematical argument - not based on rhetoric about group-think or founding fathers.

I mathematically disproved that specific quoted claim of yours. Twice.
 
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Like I said, it's not mathematically impossible. It kind of actually happened...
For one thing, a sampling of ten states does not a survey make. Second, you ignore the fact that Hillary also barely won some states like Virginia. Third, the popular vote still does not mean a thing, but if nothing else, you are proving my point that Hillary's "popular vote victory" was mainly a function of TWO states, New York and California, and that is EXACTLY the very thing the Founders sought to avoid--- --- --- a president being elected which only represented one special, local group ignoring the rest of the country.

But more important, like all Libs, you are trying to again deflect from the real point of the topic here, that the claim that Trump's states were all empty is a bald faced lie. Other than ONE STATE, California, in every other state ranking each candidate won, Trump's state was more populous than Hillary's.

View attachment 284929


And the final point of mine you are helping to prove is that it isn't the Right that is brainwashed but the Left. Your very figures show that a preponderance of Hillary's votes came from TWO SMALL AREAS: around NYC and SanFran / LA. Now STATISTICALLY, there is almost a zero random chance that literally MILLIONS of people in a given small area should all vote the same way! UNLESS, there was some external force steering them to do so.

So thanks for proving the point that:
  1. Leftards are brainwashed, controlled zombies who get plugged into the central thinknet of huge megalopolises strictly controlled by the Democrats.
  2. And that the Founder's system worked, in keeping your mobs of radical socialists from usurping power from the other 99% of the nation.
Ok.

You're arguing that Hillary won some states by small margins, that the popular vote does not mean anything, that the intentions of the founding fathers were to avoid catering to densely populated areas, that liberals claim Trump's states were empty, that there are external forces causing people to think alike in the same region.

You're all over the place. None of this has anything to do with the specific statement of yours that I have countered. Once again, here is the single isolated statement of yours that I am countering:

"SO THE QUESTION BECOMES: Facts do not lie. How does Trump win THIRTY states, win the popular vote in each, and nearly all of his states were more populated than the concomitant state won by Hillary in the first place, yet STILL COME OUT LOSING THE NATIONAL POPULAR COUNT by 2.8 million? Heads up: THAT IS MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE."

There is nothing in that quoted statement of yours about founding fathers intentions, central thinknets, empty states, or anything else you brought up in this diatribe of yours. I'm not sure if you're having a difficult time focusing on it or if you're intentionally trying to throw in unrelated statements, but I'll once again direct you to the specific quote of yours above that I have countered. My argument is with that specific statement and my argument with that is a mathematical argument - not based on rhetoric about group-think or founding fathers.

I mathematically disproved that specific quoted claim of yours. Twice.

Nice deflection, still no cigar. Lotta talk, little proof. The facts remain:
  1. Trump's deplorable states are far from empty as repeatedly claimed here, the POINT of this thread. Indeed, rank by rank, almost every one of them was bigger than Hillary's!
  2. The popular vote is MEANINGLESS. Only cry babies who lose elections keep bringing it up over and over again. And without Voter ID to know how many were legitimate.
  3. Hillary's "victory" lie completely in the total control and domination by the Democrats of THREE cities: Chicago, LA and NYC. Not only does it show a total mind-fuck of all who live there, it would seem that the aim of democrats now is to monopolize whole states with massive metropolises whose sheer populations outflank the whole rest of the states! Their only problem is that not only is the Constitution designed to circumvent that but they have only successfully accomplished that with three states now guaranteed to vote DEMOCRAT in EVERY election no matter who they run, with a few others they are working on.
Final proof that democrats are the most mind-fucked, brain-dead, mentally controlled sheep of all time.
 
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The OP was correct
Not entirely, as he left out russian interference.
Can't leave out that which has never been proven. Link us to the number of votes changed by the Russians. Even one.

Link us to the states whose outcome was swung by the Russians.

Link us to how Trump was a conscious, deliberate participant in any sort of scurrilous plot.

You see Toady, before you can claim Russian interference, you have to show that something was actually interfered with! That's not to say that Russia, China, and many other countries are not INTERESTED in our elections! Just ask Barack Obumma, and how he actively tried to stop Ben Netanyahu from being reelected.

Apparently that is OK.
 

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Like I said, it's not mathematically impossible. It kind of actually happened...
For one thing, a sampling of ten states does not a survey make. Second, you ignore the fact that Hillary also barely won some states like Virginia. Third, the popular vote still does not mean a thing, but if nothing else, you are proving my point that Hillary's "popular vote victory" was mainly a function of TWO states, New York and California, and that is EXACTLY the very thing the Founders sought to avoid--- --- --- a president being elected which only represented one special, local group ignoring the rest of the country.

But more important, like all Libs, you are trying to again deflect from the real point of the topic here, that the claim that Trump's states were all empty is a bald faced lie. Other than ONE STATE, California, in every other state ranking each candidate won, Trump's state was more populous than Hillary's.

View attachment 284929


And the final point of mine you are helping to prove is that it isn't the Right that is brainwashed but the Left. Your very figures show that a preponderance of Hillary's votes came from TWO SMALL AREAS: around NYC and SanFran / LA. Now STATISTICALLY, there is almost a zero random chance that literally MILLIONS of people in a given small area should all vote the same way! UNLESS, there was some external force steering them to do so.

So thanks for proving the point that:
  1. Leftards are brainwashed, controlled zombies who get plugged into the central thinknet of huge megalopolises strictly controlled by the Democrats.
  2. And that the Founder's system worked, in keeping your mobs of radical socialists from usurping power from the other 99% of the nation.
Ok.

You're arguing that Hillary won some states by small margins, that the popular vote does not mean anything, that the intentions of the founding fathers were to avoid catering to densely populated areas, that liberals claim Trump's states were empty, that there are external forces causing people to think alike in the same region.

You're all over the place. None of this has anything to do with the specific statement of yours that I have countered. Once again, here is the single isolated statement of yours that I am countering:

"SO THE QUESTION BECOMES: Facts do not lie. How does Trump win THIRTY states, win the popular vote in each, and nearly all of his states were more populated than the concomitant state won by Hillary in the first place, yet STILL COME OUT LOSING THE NATIONAL POPULAR COUNT by 2.8 million? Heads up: THAT IS MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE."

There is nothing in that quoted statement of yours about founding fathers intentions, central thinknets, empty states, or anything else you brought up in this diatribe of yours. I'm not sure if you're having a difficult time focusing on it or if you're intentionally trying to throw in unrelated statements, but I'll once again direct you to the specific quote of yours above that I have countered. My argument is with that specific statement and my argument with that is a mathematical argument - not based on rhetoric about group-think or founding fathers.

I mathematically disproved that specific quoted claim of yours. Twice.

Nice deflection, still no cigar. Lotta talk, little proof. The facts remain:
  1. Trump's deplorable states are far from empty as repeatedly claimed here, the POINT of this thread. Indeed, rank by rank, almost every one of them was bigger than Hillary's!
  2. The popular vote is MEANINGLESS. Only cry babies who lose elections keep bringing it up over and over again. And without Voter ID to know how many were legitimate.
  3. Hillary's "victory" lie completely in the total control and domination by the Democrats of THREE cities: Chicago, LA and NYC. Not only does it show a total mind-fuck of all who live there, it would seem that the aim of democrats now is to monopolize whole states with massive metropolises whose sheer populations outflank the whole rest of the states! Their only problem is that not only is the Constitution designed to circumvent that but they have only successfully accomplished that with three states now guaranteed to vote DEMOCRAT in EVERY election no matter who they run, with a few others they are working on.
Final proof that democrats are the most mind-fucked, brain-dead, mentally controlled sheep of all time.
I believe that you believe that.

I've made myself as clear as I can.

Have a good one.
 
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The OP was correct
Not entirely, as he left out russian interference.

RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE: The best alibi the Left can come up with to explain how their Most Qualified Candidate On The Planet lost miserably to the Least Qualified Candidate On The Planet, without admitting any personal responsibility for themselves.
 

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