Why the US Navy has not opened the Strait of Hormuz yet

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Most of that land was taken by force without any payment.

When did that happen?

You ought to know its not true at least prior to 1948

 

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A few weeks ago you said there never was a place named "Palestine" glad to see you're improving. If no Palestinians were displaced why is Gaza full of Palestinians and why are there so many in Lebanon, Syria, Jordan etc?

Answer, they are refugees from 1948 or the descendants of refugees, refugees = people displaced by war.

About 750,000 Arabs were not willing that's why it was stolen and that theft is ongoing in the West Bank and now South Lebanon.

I may have said there was no country named palestine. And there wasnt

of course the name existed just as Samaria and Judea were and are names for the same land

The brits did their best to prevent the Jews from resettling the land of Israel but failed

Thanks to God is was going to happen and no one could stop it

 

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Jews were not in Israel 3,000 years ago they lived in Judah and were often at war with Israel.

Now tell me why anyone should interpret some old books as meaning what you think?

Try again.

Who were the people Jews were at war with in Israel?

 

[Delldude]

Jews were not in Israel 3,000 years ago they lived in Judah and were often at war with Israel.

Mind if I cut in?

AI says Boosheet.

Three thousand years ago (c. 1000 BCE), Jewish ancestors (Israelites) inhabited the region, including the Southern Kingdom of Judah and the Northern Kingdom of Israel. While "Judah" was the specific region centered around Jerusalem, it was part of the broader Land of Israel, establishing a 3,000-year continuous, indigenous presence.

 

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Mind if I cut in?

AI says Boosheet.

Three thousand years ago (c. 1000 BCE), Jewish ancestors (Israelites) inhabited the region, including the Southern Kingdom of Judah and the Northern Kingdom of Israel. While "Judah" was the specific region centered around Jerusalem, it was part of the broader Land of Israel, establishing a 3,000-year continuous, indigenous presence.

Correct. It was civil war. Churchill wants us to believe the only Jews were in Judah.

 

[Churchill]

Here's the ancient Kingdoms of

Who were the people Jews were at war with in Israel?

The other tribes, not Jews which are the tribe of Judah (and Benjamin). If one really wanted to draft a new state for Jews it would be the yellow region below (where ancient Israel and Judah are superimposed on a modern map).

So even if we did embrace your silly idea the borders would denote a far smaller place than Israel now occupies and If modern Israel was welcoming all tribes then they would not limit the immigtration laws to just Jews but all Israelites.

Nobody ever objected to Jews living in Palestine (well the Christian Crusaders did) what people object to is a perverse state where "settlers" can today burn down Arab houses and take the land while the army stands there watching.

Israel today is not like it was 3,000 years ago, many ethnicities lived peacefully within Israel and Judah, there were no "settlers" stealing land from non-Jews, there were no fenced off ghettos for non-Jews, there was no Jew supremacy as we see today.

The ethnic based modern state of Israel is very different from ancient Judah, it is a monstrosity, a deception and you have been deceived just as Christ warned people would be.

 

[Churchill]

Mind if I cut in?

AI says Boosheet.

Three thousand years ago (c. 1000 BCE), Jewish ancestors (Israelites) inhabited the region, including the Southern Kingdom of Judah and the Northern Kingdom of Israel. While "Judah" was the specific region centered around Jerusalem, it was part of the broader Land of Israel, establishing a 3,000-year continuous, indigenous presence.

Read Jewish historian Josephus, he explains that "Jew" referred to the tribes of Judah and Benjamin, the Israelites who remained after the other tribes had been scattered to the winds. Jew does NOT mean Israelite.

 

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Here's the ancient Kingdoms of

The other tribes, not Jews which are the tribe of Judah (and Benjamin). If one really wanted to draft a new state for Jews it would be the yellow region below (where ancient Israel and Judah are superimposed on a modern map).

So even if we did embrace your silly idea the borders would denote a far smaller place than Israel now occupies and If modern Israel was welcoming all tribes then they would not limit the immigtration laws to just Jews but all Israelites.

Nobody ever objected to Jews living in Palestine (well the Christian Crusaders did) what people object to is a perverse state where "settlers" can today burn down Arab houses and take the land while the army stands there watching.

Israel today is not like it was 3,000 years ago, many ethnicities lived peacefully within Israel and Judah, there were no "settlers" stealing land from non-Jews, there were no fenced off ghettos for non-Jews, there was no Jew supremacy as we see today.

The ethnic based modern state of Israel is veru different from ancient Judah, it is a monstrosity, a decpetion and you have been deceived just as Christ warned people would be.

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All of the tribes of Israel are Jews. Someone has fed you a lie.

 

[Zavulon]

When did that happen?

You ought to know its not true at least prior to 1948

Mostly I mean post 1948 history. But even in pre-1948 period not all land was bought.

 

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Read Jewish historian Josephus, he explains that "Jew" referred to the tribes of Judah and Benjamin, the Israelites who remained after the other tribes had been scattered to the winds. Jew does NOT mean Israelite.

Read the Bible.

 

[Churchill]

All of the tribes of Israel are Jews. Someone has fed you a lie.

Moses wasn't a Jew, the term never existed until the kingdom of Judah became distinct - see Josephus (he was a Jew you know)

But go ahead, continue to make an ass of yourself, I know it's a skill trumpites possess.

 

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Moses wasn't a Jew:

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But go ahead, continue to make an ass of yourself, I know it's a skill trumpites possess.

I understand the technical aspect and the 10 lost tribes thing, but they are all descendants from Jacob. It's meaningless nitpicking. Are you mormon?

 

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Moses wasn't a Jew, the term never existed until the kingdom of Judah became distinct - see Josephus (he was a Jew you know)

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But go ahead, continue to make an ass of yourself, I know it's a skill trumpites possess.

Let me ask you a question. Are all 12 tribes Israelites?

 

[Churchill]

Read the Bible.

Here is the first use of "Jew" in the old testament: (2 Kings 16:6)

Then Rezin king of Syria and Pekah son of Remaliah king of Israel came up to Jerusalem to war: and they besieged Ahaz, but could not overcome him. At that time Rezin king of Syria recovered Elath to Syria, and drave the Jews from Elath: and the Syrians came to Elath, and dwelt there unto this day.

So the king of Israel (allied with the king of Syria) drove the Jews out.

 

[Stryder50]

According to this video we are close to being able to reopen the Strait

But the decision depends on factors that are political and strategic not military

I think as I have said for weeks that we must seize Kharg Island first

That ensures that no one can buy Iranian oil unless the US sells it to them

And unless the money is held in escrow for a new Iranian government that the US approves of

As your link points out, the mines Iran laid also close off it's ability to ship it's oil out.
That means an essential income flow is stopped.
Cutting off one's nose to spite their face ???

BTW, most efficient and reliable way to seize Kharg island is via amphibious ships that need to go through the Strait to deliver the Marines to take the island.
Catch 22 sort of.

 

[BS Filter]

Here is the first use of "Jew" in the old testament: (2 Kings 16:6)

Then Rezin king of Syria and Pekah son of Remaliah king of Israel came up to Jerusalem to war: and they besieged Ahaz, but could not overcome him. At that time Rezin king of Syria recovered Elath to Syria, and drave the Jews from Elath: and the Syrians came to Elath, and dwelt there unto this day.

So the king of Israel (allied with the king of Syria) drove the Jews out.

They're all Israelites. Isn't that correct?

 

[Churchill]

Furthermore the prophecies cited by fanatical evangelicals about modern Israel is also incorrect. The prophecies refer to Israelites not just Jews.

So again modern Israel cannot be a fulfillment of those prophecies unless you want to be deceived, willfully deceived. Modern Israel doesn't speak of Israelites, nor does it welcome them, it is Jew centric, Jew exclusive not Israelite centric, it is not what it seems, you have been warned either believe what the Bible says or don't, your call.


They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

So carry on delighting in death and genocide and bombing children and libraries and hospitals and ambulance drivers, enjoy your Iran war, enjoy being intoxicated with wickedness.

 

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I may have said there was no country named palestine. And there wasnt

of course the name existed just as Samaria and Judea were and are names for the same land

Mostly I mean post 1948 history. But even in pre-1948 period not all land was bought.

prior to 1948 the Jews were too few and too weak to push arabs around

But after 1948 the arabs paid the price for losing a war

Neither side is playing beanbag

But the consequences would have been much worse for the Jews if they had lost

 

[Zavulon]

I may have said there was no country named palestine. And there wasnt

of course the name existed just as Samaria and Judea were and are names for the same land

prior to 1948 the Jews were too few and too weak to push arabs around

But after 1948 the arabs paid the price for losing a war

Neither side is playing beanbag

But the consequences would have been much worse for the Jews if they had lost

But I hope you understand, that with Epstain coalition losing this war, Israel will pay the price, too.

 

[Churchill]

I may have said there was no country named palestine. And there wasnt

of course the name existed just as Samaria and Judea

and Israel.

were and are names for the same land prior to 1948 the Jews were too few and too weak to push arabs around

But after 1948 the arabs paid the price for losing a war

Neither side is playing beanbag

But the consequences would have been much worse for the Jews if they had lost