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LOLOLNot all of them had the intent when they went there to storm the capitol. It is your POV and the media you are consuming that have you believing this.They're not identical by any stretch of the imagination. I heard there were maybe 10,000 people who showed up for Trump's rally/speech and of those people about 1,000 traveled on to the Capitol. That's not "very few" and right now I believe around 500 of them have been identified and have had charges filed against them.See? This is what I am talking about? The paradigm you are weaving is exactly what I have spelled out in my first post in this thread, dishonest reporting, and double standards.The individuals of January 6th at the Capitol however were there for the stated purpose of INTERFERING with government business with the stated objective of preventing Joe Biden from being certified as president of the United States. That's why they're referred to as insurrectionists and not protestors, two entirely different things, least of which is protesting is protected by the 1st Amendment and insurrection is a federal crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison
This is due to your consumption of certain media that TELL you this is so. . . and? You believe this. Of course, this is not the truth, far from it.
Very few of those Trump protestors actually went there to interfere with the government business. Just as very few BLM protestors took part in looting and rioting.
Both of these scenarios is identical, IDENTICAL.
I haven't been TOLD anything in regards to how to view this incident, I saw for myself what they did and said, including those who believed it was their duty to "stop the steal". Shouts of 'Hang Mike Pence' and calls out of 'Nancy where are you? We're looking for you' while unlawfully being in restricted areas, vandalizing offices of the Capitol, stealing government property, etc. doesn't meet the definition of peaceable assembly, particularly when you add in the following
Threatening government officials of the United States is a felony under federal law. Threatening the President of the United States is a felony under 18 U.S.C. § 871, punishable by up to 5 years of imprisonment, that is investigated by the United States Secret Service.[1] Threatening other officials is a Class D or C felony, usually carrying maximum penalties of 5 or 10 years under 18 U.S.C. § 875, 18 U.S.C. § 876 and other statutes, that is investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. When national boundaries are transcended by such a threat, it is considered a terrorist threat.[2]
Our vice president and congressional members were fleeing, in fear for their lives.
Marching in the streets to create a presence in order to draw attention to injustices being carried out each day comes no where close to storming the Capitol where our representatives, including the vice president of the United States were in attendance in order to certify the next president of the United States. They said they were there to "stop the steal" and they did indeed stop it momentarily but they couldn't prevent it.
I am a trained analyst among other things. I do my own research, and I use various sources but one of things I never do, is attribute certain behaviors to people based on their political affiliation. That is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen and I somehow feel that it's just the latest "slur" used to demean others since people can get in trouble if they use the one they really want to say, JMHOBut? Because of folks IN-GROUP/OUT-GROUP identification. . . they are too close to it to see it. If I told you any other research or narrative that explains in common sense with facts, than the one you are being fed, you would object. Twain said, it is harder to undo a falsehood that it is to weave one in the first place.
I'm telling you, these two instances are identical. If you don't see it, it is because your Out-Group is affecting your view of ethics.
I'd say my ethics are in better shape than half this board.
Only a few dozen wanted to do this. When the Capitol Police were given orders to stand down, and they just stood aside. . . these folks just walked right in.
Yeah, they were invited in.
They might as well have been.
The establishment knew what was coming and did nothing to prevent it. That is the same as an invitation. And when they came, they did nothing to prevent them from coming right on in, they just opened the gates.
The far right are quite similar to the Nazis in Germany before they took power, accusing everyone who opposed them as socialists or commies.The hatred by republicans against democrats is breathtaking on here. We are spoken of as a type of malignant tumour against society for no reason. They have never threatened the country with a communist overthrow, never. Never a communist like POTUS has ever been elected but they label every dissenter to the conservative view as a commie.
Where is the patriotism of the country and its ability to overcome problems when the divide is so blatant. The born to rule attitude of republicans is the epitome of a divided nation and it increased further under trump. Its like they resent democracy if it failed to present them with power.
The pathetic delusion it was stolen from them, the disgraceful attitude towards democrats, the silly childish names they give their opponents, the total disrespect of the president because he is a Democrat, accusations of Harris as a whore etc with no evidence whatsoever.
A simple opinion by a Democrat is vigorously attacked with bile and venom dripping from your mouths. What is wrong with you people? Why the hatred?
LOLOLNot all of them had the intent when they went there to storm the capitol. It is your POV and the media you are consuming that have you believing this.They're not identical by any stretch of the imagination. I heard there were maybe 10,000 people who showed up for Trump's rally/speech and of those people about 1,000 traveled on to the Capitol. That's not "very few" and right now I believe around 500 of them have been identified and have had charges filed against them.See? This is what I am talking about? The paradigm you are weaving is exactly what I have spelled out in my first post in this thread, dishonest reporting, and double standards.The individuals of January 6th at the Capitol however were there for the stated purpose of INTERFERING with government business with the stated objective of preventing Joe Biden from being certified as president of the United States. That's why they're referred to as insurrectionists and not protestors, two entirely different things, least of which is protesting is protected by the 1st Amendment and insurrection is a federal crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison
This is due to your consumption of certain media that TELL you this is so. . . and? You believe this. Of course, this is not the truth, far from it.
Very few of those Trump protestors actually went there to interfere with the government business. Just as very few BLM protestors took part in looting and rioting.
Both of these scenarios is identical, IDENTICAL.
I haven't been TOLD anything in regards to how to view this incident, I saw for myself what they did and said, including those who believed it was their duty to "stop the steal". Shouts of 'Hang Mike Pence' and calls out of 'Nancy where are you? We're looking for you' while unlawfully being in restricted areas, vandalizing offices of the Capitol, stealing government property, etc. doesn't meet the definition of peaceable assembly, particularly when you add in the following
Threatening government officials of the United States is a felony under federal law. Threatening the President of the United States is a felony under 18 U.S.C. § 871, punishable by up to 5 years of imprisonment, that is investigated by the United States Secret Service.[1] Threatening other officials is a Class D or C felony, usually carrying maximum penalties of 5 or 10 years under 18 U.S.C. § 875, 18 U.S.C. § 876 and other statutes, that is investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. When national boundaries are transcended by such a threat, it is considered a terrorist threat.[2]
Our vice president and congressional members were fleeing, in fear for their lives.
Marching in the streets to create a presence in order to draw attention to injustices being carried out each day comes no where close to storming the Capitol where our representatives, including the vice president of the United States were in attendance in order to certify the next president of the United States. They said they were there to "stop the steal" and they did indeed stop it momentarily but they couldn't prevent it.
I am a trained analyst among other things. I do my own research, and I use various sources but one of things I never do, is attribute certain behaviors to people based on their political affiliation. That is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen and I somehow feel that it's just the latest "slur" used to demean others since people can get in trouble if they use the one they really want to say, JMHOBut? Because of folks IN-GROUP/OUT-GROUP identification. . . they are too close to it to see it. If I told you any other research or narrative that explains in common sense with facts, than the one you are being fed, you would object. Twain said, it is harder to undo a falsehood that it is to weave one in the first place.
I'm telling you, these two instances are identical. If you don't see it, it is because your Out-Group is affecting your view of ethics.
I'd say my ethics are in better shape than half this board.
Only a few dozen wanted to do this. When the Capitol Police were given orders to stand down, and they just stood aside. . . these folks just walked right in.
Yeah, they were invited in.
They might as well have been.
The establishment knew what was coming and did nothing to prevent it. That is the same as an invitation. And when they came, they did nothing to prevent them from coming right on in, they just opened the gates.
LOLOLNot all of them had the intent when they went there to storm the capitol. It is your POV and the media you are consuming that have you believing this.They're not identical by any stretch of the imagination. I heard there were maybe 10,000 people who showed up for Trump's rally/speech and of those people about 1,000 traveled on to the Capitol. That's not "very few" and right now I believe around 500 of them have been identified and have had charges filed against them.See? This is what I am talking about? The paradigm you are weaving is exactly what I have spelled out in my first post in this thread, dishonest reporting, and double standards.The individuals of January 6th at the Capitol however were there for the stated purpose of INTERFERING with government business with the stated objective of preventing Joe Biden from being certified as president of the United States. That's why they're referred to as insurrectionists and not protestors, two entirely different things, least of which is protesting is protected by the 1st Amendment and insurrection is a federal crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison
This is due to your consumption of certain media that TELL you this is so. . . and? You believe this. Of course, this is not the truth, far from it.
Very few of those Trump protestors actually went there to interfere with the government business. Just as very few BLM protestors took part in looting and rioting.
Both of these scenarios is identical, IDENTICAL.
I haven't been TOLD anything in regards to how to view this incident, I saw for myself what they did and said, including those who believed it was their duty to "stop the steal". Shouts of 'Hang Mike Pence' and calls out of 'Nancy where are you? We're looking for you' while unlawfully being in restricted areas, vandalizing offices of the Capitol, stealing government property, etc. doesn't meet the definition of peaceable assembly, particularly when you add in the following
Threatening government officials of the United States is a felony under federal law. Threatening the President of the United States is a felony under 18 U.S.C. § 871, punishable by up to 5 years of imprisonment, that is investigated by the United States Secret Service.[1] Threatening other officials is a Class D or C felony, usually carrying maximum penalties of 5 or 10 years under 18 U.S.C. § 875, 18 U.S.C. § 876 and other statutes, that is investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. When national boundaries are transcended by such a threat, it is considered a terrorist threat.[2]
Our vice president and congressional members were fleeing, in fear for their lives.
Marching in the streets to create a presence in order to draw attention to injustices being carried out each day comes no where close to storming the Capitol where our representatives, including the vice president of the United States were in attendance in order to certify the next president of the United States. They said they were there to "stop the steal" and they did indeed stop it momentarily but they couldn't prevent it.
I am a trained analyst among other things. I do my own research, and I use various sources but one of things I never do, is attribute certain behaviors to people based on their political affiliation. That is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen and I somehow feel that it's just the latest "slur" used to demean others since people can get in trouble if they use the one they really want to say, JMHOBut? Because of folks IN-GROUP/OUT-GROUP identification. . . they are too close to it to see it. If I told you any other research or narrative that explains in common sense with facts, than the one you are being fed, you would object. Twain said, it is harder to undo a falsehood that it is to weave one in the first place.
I'm telling you, these two instances are identical. If you don't see it, it is because your Out-Group is affecting your view of ethics.
I'd say my ethics are in better shape than half this board.
Only a few dozen wanted to do this. When the Capitol Police were given orders to stand down, and they just stood aside. . . these folks just walked right in.
Yeah, they were invited in.
They might as well have been.
The establishment knew what was coming and did nothing to prevent it. That is the same as an invitation. And when they came, they did nothing to prevent them from coming right on in, they just opened the gates.
So if a woman gets raped, the fact that she wasn't wearing a chastity belt means she invited the rape because she did nothing to prevent it?
LOLOLNot all of them had the intent when they went there to storm the capitol. It is your POV and the media you are consuming that have you believing this.They're not identical by any stretch of the imagination. I heard there were maybe 10,000 people who showed up for Trump's rally/speech and of those people about 1,000 traveled on to the Capitol. That's not "very few" and right now I believe around 500 of them have been identified and have had charges filed against them.See? This is what I am talking about? The paradigm you are weaving is exactly what I have spelled out in my first post in this thread, dishonest reporting, and double standards.The individuals of January 6th at the Capitol however were there for the stated purpose of INTERFERING with government business with the stated objective of preventing Joe Biden from being certified as president of the United States. That's why they're referred to as insurrectionists and not protestors, two entirely different things, least of which is protesting is protected by the 1st Amendment and insurrection is a federal crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison
This is due to your consumption of certain media that TELL you this is so. . . and? You believe this. Of course, this is not the truth, far from it.
Very few of those Trump protestors actually went there to interfere with the government business. Just as very few BLM protestors took part in looting and rioting.
Both of these scenarios is identical, IDENTICAL.
I haven't been TOLD anything in regards to how to view this incident, I saw for myself what they did and said, including those who believed it was their duty to "stop the steal". Shouts of 'Hang Mike Pence' and calls out of 'Nancy where are you? We're looking for you' while unlawfully being in restricted areas, vandalizing offices of the Capitol, stealing government property, etc. doesn't meet the definition of peaceable assembly, particularly when you add in the following
Threatening government officials of the United States is a felony under federal law. Threatening the President of the United States is a felony under 18 U.S.C. § 871, punishable by up to 5 years of imprisonment, that is investigated by the United States Secret Service.[1] Threatening other officials is a Class D or C felony, usually carrying maximum penalties of 5 or 10 years under 18 U.S.C. § 875, 18 U.S.C. § 876 and other statutes, that is investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. When national boundaries are transcended by such a threat, it is considered a terrorist threat.[2]
Our vice president and congressional members were fleeing, in fear for their lives.
Marching in the streets to create a presence in order to draw attention to injustices being carried out each day comes no where close to storming the Capitol where our representatives, including the vice president of the United States were in attendance in order to certify the next president of the United States. They said they were there to "stop the steal" and they did indeed stop it momentarily but they couldn't prevent it.
I am a trained analyst among other things. I do my own research, and I use various sources but one of things I never do, is attribute certain behaviors to people based on their political affiliation. That is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen and I somehow feel that it's just the latest "slur" used to demean others since people can get in trouble if they use the one they really want to say, JMHOBut? Because of folks IN-GROUP/OUT-GROUP identification. . . they are too close to it to see it. If I told you any other research or narrative that explains in common sense with facts, than the one you are being fed, you would object. Twain said, it is harder to undo a falsehood that it is to weave one in the first place.
I'm telling you, these two instances are identical. If you don't see it, it is because your Out-Group is affecting your view of ethics.
I'd say my ethics are in better shape than half this board.
Only a few dozen wanted to do this. When the Capitol Police were given orders to stand down, and they just stood aside. . . these folks just walked right in.
Yeah, they were invited in.
They might as well have been.
The establishment knew what was coming and did nothing to prevent it. That is the same as an invitation. And when they came, they did nothing to prevent them from coming right on in, they just opened the gates.
While a few cops who were overwhelmed by the massive and aggressive mob confronting them chose personal safety and stepped aside rather than fight a losing battle, that doesn't mean they were invited in or even welcome. And as the video I posted showed, many cops did try to fight to keep them out. And many were injured. That was an insurrection and I won't be surprised to see some get charged with sedition.
LOLOLNot all of them had the intent when they went there to storm the capitol. It is your POV and the media you are consuming that have you believing this.They're not identical by any stretch of the imagination. I heard there were maybe 10,000 people who showed up for Trump's rally/speech and of those people about 1,000 traveled on to the Capitol. That's not "very few" and right now I believe around 500 of them have been identified and have had charges filed against them.See? This is what I am talking about? The paradigm you are weaving is exactly what I have spelled out in my first post in this thread, dishonest reporting, and double standards.The individuals of January 6th at the Capitol however were there for the stated purpose of INTERFERING with government business with the stated objective of preventing Joe Biden from being certified as president of the United States. That's why they're referred to as insurrectionists and not protestors, two entirely different things, least of which is protesting is protected by the 1st Amendment and insurrection is a federal crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison
This is due to your consumption of certain media that TELL you this is so. . . and? You believe this. Of course, this is not the truth, far from it.
Very few of those Trump protestors actually went there to interfere with the government business. Just as very few BLM protestors took part in looting and rioting.
Both of these scenarios is identical, IDENTICAL.
I haven't been TOLD anything in regards to how to view this incident, I saw for myself what they did and said, including those who believed it was their duty to "stop the steal". Shouts of 'Hang Mike Pence' and calls out of 'Nancy where are you? We're looking for you' while unlawfully being in restricted areas, vandalizing offices of the Capitol, stealing government property, etc. doesn't meet the definition of peaceable assembly, particularly when you add in the following
Threatening government officials of the United States is a felony under federal law. Threatening the President of the United States is a felony under 18 U.S.C. § 871, punishable by up to 5 years of imprisonment, that is investigated by the United States Secret Service.[1] Threatening other officials is a Class D or C felony, usually carrying maximum penalties of 5 or 10 years under 18 U.S.C. § 875, 18 U.S.C. § 876 and other statutes, that is investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. When national boundaries are transcended by such a threat, it is considered a terrorist threat.[2]
Our vice president and congressional members were fleeing, in fear for their lives.
Marching in the streets to create a presence in order to draw attention to injustices being carried out each day comes no where close to storming the Capitol where our representatives, including the vice president of the United States were in attendance in order to certify the next president of the United States. They said they were there to "stop the steal" and they did indeed stop it momentarily but they couldn't prevent it.
I am a trained analyst among other things. I do my own research, and I use various sources but one of things I never do, is attribute certain behaviors to people based on their political affiliation. That is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen and I somehow feel that it's just the latest "slur" used to demean others since people can get in trouble if they use the one they really want to say, JMHOBut? Because of folks IN-GROUP/OUT-GROUP identification. . . they are too close to it to see it. If I told you any other research or narrative that explains in common sense with facts, than the one you are being fed, you would object. Twain said, it is harder to undo a falsehood that it is to weave one in the first place.
I'm telling you, these two instances are identical. If you don't see it, it is because your Out-Group is affecting your view of ethics.
I'd say my ethics are in better shape than half this board.
Only a few dozen wanted to do this. When the Capitol Police were given orders to stand down, and they just stood aside. . . these folks just walked right in.
Yeah, they were invited in.
They might as well have been.
The establishment knew what was coming and did nothing to prevent it. That is the same as an invitation. And when they came, they did nothing to prevent them from coming right on in, they just opened the gates.
While a few cops who were overwhelmed by the massive and aggressive mob confronting them chose personal safety and stepped aside rather than fight a losing battle, that doesn't mean they were invited in or even welcome. And as the video I posted showed, many cops did try to fight to keep them out. And many were injured. That was an insurrection and I won't be surprised to see some get charged with sedition.
You can make up all the lies and excuses you want.
Everyone knows now that the establishment not only knew what was coming, it had a domestic terror bill written before hand and needed a "good crises," to push the paradigm.
There was no insurrection, just a staged for TEE VEE production with a world record number of patsies and dupes who are fed up with a phony election system.
Fuck you - stupid commie.accusations of Harris as a whore etc with no evidence whatsoever.
A simple opinion by a Democrat is vigorously attacked with bile and venom dripping from your mouths. What is wrong with you people? Why the hatred?
That was a massive intellectual input. Did it take you long to think it?Fuck you - stupid commie.accusations of Harris as a whore etc with no evidence whatsoever.
A simple opinion by a Democrat is vigorously attacked with bile and venom dripping from your mouths. What is wrong with you people? Why the hatred?
Fuck youThat was a massive intellectual input. Did it take you long to think it?Fuck you - stupid commie.accusations of Harris as a whore etc with no evidence whatsoever.
A simple opinion by a Democrat is vigorously attacked with bile and venom dripping from your mouths. What is wrong with you people? Why the hatred?
Same old diatribe of baseless communist crap because someone disagrees with you.
Get over it and refute the facts.
Is that the best you've got? Yet you call me a stupid commie. You know nothing and never will. Get some facts.Fuck youThat was a massive intellectual input. Did it take you long to think it?Fuck you - stupid commie.accusations of Harris as a whore etc with no evidence whatsoever.
A simple opinion by a Democrat is vigorously attacked with bile and venom dripping from your mouths. What is wrong with you people? Why the hatred?
Same old diatribe of baseless communist crap because someone disagrees with you.
Get over it and refute the facts.
LOLOLNot all of them had the intent when they went there to storm the capitol. It is your POV and the media you are consuming that have you believing this.They're not identical by any stretch of the imagination. I heard there were maybe 10,000 people who showed up for Trump's rally/speech and of those people about 1,000 traveled on to the Capitol. That's not "very few" and right now I believe around 500 of them have been identified and have had charges filed against them.See? This is what I am talking about? The paradigm you are weaving is exactly what I have spelled out in my first post in this thread, dishonest reporting, and double standards.The individuals of January 6th at the Capitol however were there for the stated purpose of INTERFERING with government business with the stated objective of preventing Joe Biden from being certified as president of the United States. That's why they're referred to as insurrectionists and not protestors, two entirely different things, least of which is protesting is protected by the 1st Amendment and insurrection is a federal crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison
This is due to your consumption of certain media that TELL you this is so. . . and? You believe this. Of course, this is not the truth, far from it.
Very few of those Trump protestors actually went there to interfere with the government business. Just as very few BLM protestors took part in looting and rioting.
Both of these scenarios is identical, IDENTICAL.
I haven't been TOLD anything in regards to how to view this incident, I saw for myself what they did and said, including those who believed it was their duty to "stop the steal". Shouts of 'Hang Mike Pence' and calls out of 'Nancy where are you? We're looking for you' while unlawfully being in restricted areas, vandalizing offices of the Capitol, stealing government property, etc. doesn't meet the definition of peaceable assembly, particularly when you add in the following
Threatening government officials of the United States is a felony under federal law. Threatening the President of the United States is a felony under 18 U.S.C. § 871, punishable by up to 5 years of imprisonment, that is investigated by the United States Secret Service.[1] Threatening other officials is a Class D or C felony, usually carrying maximum penalties of 5 or 10 years under 18 U.S.C. § 875, 18 U.S.C. § 876 and other statutes, that is investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. When national boundaries are transcended by such a threat, it is considered a terrorist threat.[2]
Our vice president and congressional members were fleeing, in fear for their lives.
Marching in the streets to create a presence in order to draw attention to injustices being carried out each day comes no where close to storming the Capitol where our representatives, including the vice president of the United States were in attendance in order to certify the next president of the United States. They said they were there to "stop the steal" and they did indeed stop it momentarily but they couldn't prevent it.
I am a trained analyst among other things. I do my own research, and I use various sources but one of things I never do, is attribute certain behaviors to people based on their political affiliation. That is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen and I somehow feel that it's just the latest "slur" used to demean others since people can get in trouble if they use the one they really want to say, JMHOBut? Because of folks IN-GROUP/OUT-GROUP identification. . . they are too close to it to see it. If I told you any other research or narrative that explains in common sense with facts, than the one you are being fed, you would object. Twain said, it is harder to undo a falsehood that it is to weave one in the first place.
I'm telling you, these two instances are identical. If you don't see it, it is because your Out-Group is affecting your view of ethics.
I'd say my ethics are in better shape than half this board.
Only a few dozen wanted to do this. When the Capitol Police were given orders to stand down, and they just stood aside. . . these folks just walked right in.
Yeah, they were invited in.
They might as well have been.
The establishment knew what was coming and did nothing to prevent it. That is the same as an invitation. And when they came, they did nothing to prevent them from coming right on in, they just opened the gates.
While a few cops who were overwhelmed by the massive and aggressive mob confronting them chose personal safety and stepped aside rather than fight a losing battle, that doesn't mean they were invited in or even welcome. And as the video I posted showed, many cops did try to fight to keep them out. And many were injured. That was an insurrection and I won't be surprised to see some get charged with sedition.
You can make up all the lies and excuses you want.
Everyone knows now that the establishment not only knew what was coming, it had a domestic terror bill written before hand and needed a "good crises," to push the paradigm.
There was no insurrection, just a staged for TEE VEE production with a world record number of patsies and dupes who are fed up with a phony election system.
LOLOLNot all of them had the intent when they went there to storm the capitol. It is your POV and the media you are consuming that have you believing this.They're not identical by any stretch of the imagination. I heard there were maybe 10,000 people who showed up for Trump's rally/speech and of those people about 1,000 traveled on to the Capitol. That's not "very few" and right now I believe around 500 of them have been identified and have had charges filed against them.See? This is what I am talking about? The paradigm you are weaving is exactly what I have spelled out in my first post in this thread, dishonest reporting, and double standards.The individuals of January 6th at the Capitol however were there for the stated purpose of INTERFERING with government business with the stated objective of preventing Joe Biden from being certified as president of the United States. That's why they're referred to as insurrectionists and not protestors, two entirely different things, least of which is protesting is protected by the 1st Amendment and insurrection is a federal crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison
This is due to your consumption of certain media that TELL you this is so. . . and? You believe this. Of course, this is not the truth, far from it.
Very few of those Trump protestors actually went there to interfere with the government business. Just as very few BLM protestors took part in looting and rioting.
Both of these scenarios is identical, IDENTICAL.
I haven't been TOLD anything in regards to how to view this incident, I saw for myself what they did and said, including those who believed it was their duty to "stop the steal". Shouts of 'Hang Mike Pence' and calls out of 'Nancy where are you? We're looking for you' while unlawfully being in restricted areas, vandalizing offices of the Capitol, stealing government property, etc. doesn't meet the definition of peaceable assembly, particularly when you add in the following
Threatening government officials of the United States is a felony under federal law. Threatening the President of the United States is a felony under 18 U.S.C. § 871, punishable by up to 5 years of imprisonment, that is investigated by the United States Secret Service.[1] Threatening other officials is a Class D or C felony, usually carrying maximum penalties of 5 or 10 years under 18 U.S.C. § 875, 18 U.S.C. § 876 and other statutes, that is investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. When national boundaries are transcended by such a threat, it is considered a terrorist threat.[2]
Our vice president and congressional members were fleeing, in fear for their lives.
Marching in the streets to create a presence in order to draw attention to injustices being carried out each day comes no where close to storming the Capitol where our representatives, including the vice president of the United States were in attendance in order to certify the next president of the United States. They said they were there to "stop the steal" and they did indeed stop it momentarily but they couldn't prevent it.
I am a trained analyst among other things. I do my own research, and I use various sources but one of things I never do, is attribute certain behaviors to people based on their political affiliation. That is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen and I somehow feel that it's just the latest "slur" used to demean others since people can get in trouble if they use the one they really want to say, JMHOBut? Because of folks IN-GROUP/OUT-GROUP identification. . . they are too close to it to see it. If I told you any other research or narrative that explains in common sense with facts, than the one you are being fed, you would object. Twain said, it is harder to undo a falsehood that it is to weave one in the first place.
I'm telling you, these two instances are identical. If you don't see it, it is because your Out-Group is affecting your view of ethics.
I'd say my ethics are in better shape than half this board.
Only a few dozen wanted to do this. When the Capitol Police were given orders to stand down, and they just stood aside. . . these folks just walked right in.
Yeah, they were invited in.
They might as well have been.
The establishment knew what was coming and did nothing to prevent it. That is the same as an invitation. And when they came, they did nothing to prevent them from coming right on in, they just opened the gates.
While a few cops who were overwhelmed by the massive and aggressive mob confronting them chose personal safety and stepped aside rather than fight a losing battle, that doesn't mean they were invited in or even welcome. And as the video I posted showed, many cops did try to fight to keep them out. And many were injured. That was an insurrection and I won't be surprised to see some get charged with sedition.
You can make up all the lies and excuses you want.
Everyone knows now that the establishment not only knew what was coming, it had a domestic terror bill written before hand and needed a "good crises," to push the paradigm.
There was no insurrection, just a staged for TEE VEE production with a world record number of patsies and dupes who are fed up with a phony election system.
The hatred by republicans against democrats is breathtaking on here. We are spoken of as a type of malignant tumour against society for no reason. They have never threatened the country with a communist overthrow, never. Never a communist like POTUS has ever been elected but they label every dissenter to the conservative view as a commie.
Where is the patriotism of the country and its ability to overcome problems when the divide is so blatant. The born to rule attitude of republicans is the epitome of a divided nation and it increased further under trump. Its like they resent democracy if it failed to present them with power.
The pathetic delusion it was stolen from them, the disgraceful attitude towards democrats, the silly childish names they give their opponents, the total disrespect of the president because he is a Democrat, accusations of Harris as a whore etc with no evidence whatsoever.
A simple opinion by a Democrat is vigorously attacked with bile and venom dripping from your mouths. What is wrong with you people? Why the hatred?
exactly!
Republican politicians always threaten and talk shit about Democratic voters, the people. At least Democrats are respectful to Republicans voters and don’t single them out. Instead democrat politicians only focus on other Republican politicians.
Gosh, republicans are a bunch of inbreed morons destroying this country with their hatred. I just wish they acted like human beings and were able to have a civil conversation
LOLOLNot all of them had the intent when they went there to storm the capitol. It is your POV and the media you are consuming that have you believing this.They're not identical by any stretch of the imagination. I heard there were maybe 10,000 people who showed up for Trump's rally/speech and of those people about 1,000 traveled on to the Capitol. That's not "very few" and right now I believe around 500 of them have been identified and have had charges filed against them.See? This is what I am talking about? The paradigm you are weaving is exactly what I have spelled out in my first post in this thread, dishonest reporting, and double standards.The individuals of January 6th at the Capitol however were there for the stated purpose of INTERFERING with government business with the stated objective of preventing Joe Biden from being certified as president of the United States. That's why they're referred to as insurrectionists and not protestors, two entirely different things, least of which is protesting is protected by the 1st Amendment and insurrection is a federal crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison
This is due to your consumption of certain media that TELL you this is so. . . and? You believe this. Of course, this is not the truth, far from it.
Very few of those Trump protestors actually went there to interfere with the government business. Just as very few BLM protestors took part in looting and rioting.
Both of these scenarios is identical, IDENTICAL.
I haven't been TOLD anything in regards to how to view this incident, I saw for myself what they did and said, including those who believed it was their duty to "stop the steal". Shouts of 'Hang Mike Pence' and calls out of 'Nancy where are you? We're looking for you' while unlawfully being in restricted areas, vandalizing offices of the Capitol, stealing government property, etc. doesn't meet the definition of peaceable assembly, particularly when you add in the following
Threatening government officials of the United States is a felony under federal law. Threatening the President of the United States is a felony under 18 U.S.C. § 871, punishable by up to 5 years of imprisonment, that is investigated by the United States Secret Service.[1] Threatening other officials is a Class D or C felony, usually carrying maximum penalties of 5 or 10 years under 18 U.S.C. § 875, 18 U.S.C. § 876 and other statutes, that is investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. When national boundaries are transcended by such a threat, it is considered a terrorist threat.[2]
Our vice president and congressional members were fleeing, in fear for their lives.
Marching in the streets to create a presence in order to draw attention to injustices being carried out each day comes no where close to storming the Capitol where our representatives, including the vice president of the United States were in attendance in order to certify the next president of the United States. They said they were there to "stop the steal" and they did indeed stop it momentarily but they couldn't prevent it.
I am a trained analyst among other things. I do my own research, and I use various sources but one of things I never do, is attribute certain behaviors to people based on their political affiliation. That is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen and I somehow feel that it's just the latest "slur" used to demean others since people can get in trouble if they use the one they really want to say, JMHOBut? Because of folks IN-GROUP/OUT-GROUP identification. . . they are too close to it to see it. If I told you any other research or narrative that explains in common sense with facts, than the one you are being fed, you would object. Twain said, it is harder to undo a falsehood that it is to weave one in the first place.
I'm telling you, these two instances are identical. If you don't see it, it is because your Out-Group is affecting your view of ethics.
I'd say my ethics are in better shape than half this board.
Only a few dozen wanted to do this. When the Capitol Police were given orders to stand down, and they just stood aside. . . these folks just walked right in.
Yeah, they were invited in.
They might as well have been.
The establishment knew what was coming and did nothing to prevent it. That is the same as an invitation. And when they came, they did nothing to prevent them from coming right on in, they just opened the gates.
While a few cops who were overwhelmed by the massive and aggressive mob confronting them chose personal safety and stepped aside rather than fight a losing battle, that doesn't mean they were invited in or even welcome. And as the video I posted showed, many cops did try to fight to keep them out. And many were injured. That was an insurrection and I won't be surprised to see some get charged with sedition.
You can make up all the lies and excuses you want.
Everyone knows now that the establishment not only knew what was coming, it had a domestic terror bill written before hand and needed a "good crises," to push the paradigm.
There was no insurrection, just a staged for TEE VEE production with a world record number of patsies and dupes who are fed up with a phony election system.
LOL
Posting I don't give a fuck after I scoffed at the fuck you gave arrives too late to be worth a fuck.
If the shoe fits....We are spoken of as a type of malignant tumour against society
Nobody, with sense, took her as a legitimate threat.nobody thought it was funny & her career tanked after that stunt.
ted nugent had gigs & interviews all over the place with his repulsive remarks - the rwing nutters still love him.
... Oh so now you've injected a bit of God into it. You godbotherers appealed for divine intervention in November. That worked well. Over 400000 who died of covid believed in God and assumed he would protect them. ...
The far right are quite similar to the Nazis in Germany before they took power, accusing everyone who opposed them as socialists or commies.The hatred by republicans against democrats is breathtaking on here. We are spoken of as a type of malignant tumour against society for no reason. They have never threatened the country with a communist overthrow, never. Never a communist like POTUS has ever been elected but they label every dissenter to the conservative view as a commie.
Where is the patriotism of the country and its ability to overcome problems when the divide is so blatant. The born to rule attitude of republicans is the epitome of a divided nation and it increased further under trump. Its like they resent democracy if it failed to present them with power.
The pathetic delusion it was stolen from them, the disgraceful attitude towards democrats, the silly childish names they give their opponents, the total disrespect of the president because he is a Democrat, accusations of Harris as a whore etc with no evidence whatsoever.
A simple opinion by a Democrat is vigorously attacked with bile and venom dripping from your mouths. What is wrong with you people? Why the hatred?
Unlike the Nazis, the far right here will never take power.
The hatred by republicans against democrats is breathtaking on here. We are spoken of as a type of malignant tumour against society for no reason. They have never threatened the country with a communist overthrow, never. Never a communist like POTUS has ever been elected but they label every dissenter to the conservative view as a commie.
Where is the patriotism of the country and its ability to overcome problems when the divide is so blatant. The born to rule attitude of republicans is the epitome of a divided nation and it increased further under trump. Its like they resent democracy if it failed to present them with power.
The pathetic delusion it was stolen from them, the disgraceful attitude towards democrats, the silly childish names they give their opponents, the total disrespect of the president because he is a Democrat, accusations of Harris as a whore etc with no evidence whatsoever.
A simple opinion by a Democrat is vigorously attacked with bile and venom dripping from your mouths. What is wrong with you people? Why the hatred?
