Why the American People and the Courts mostly approve DOGE

[Robert W]

But you seem to be unable to say why they are 'weak arguments, false narrative sand bullshit.' Why is that?

I have cited the way leftists talk many times. To repeat is worth my time doing. When you make statements they can't refute, their plan is to ask personal questions of you in this case. Try to put you on the altar of deceit. It does not work with me because i understand that tactic on their part.

 

[Foxfyre]

We are seeing why. The courts keep on knocking him down because he oversteps his authority. When it gets explained to him he has no desire to do thing the correct way.

As I've pointed out before, his attempts to overturn DACA the last time went this way. He thought he could just waive his arm but the Supreme Court told him no, that he could do it but he had to do it correctly but he wasn't interested.

Supreme Court Overturns Trump Administration’s Termination of DACA

The U.S. Supreme Court overturned the Trump administration’s termination of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA).

www.nilc.org

See above.

Good Lord. You went back to a ruling five years ago to defend what is happening here and now?

And you may have not read or didn't understand the final paragraph in your linked article (emphasis mine):

". . .While this is a tremendous victory for the over 700,000 young immigrants whose home is here — and a testament to their indefatigable organizing efforts — it is clear from the Supreme Court’s opinion that it is within the Trump administration’s power to decide to terminate DACA again. In addition, Texas and several other states brought a legal challenge to DACA itself that continues in federal district court in Texas. After the Supreme Court issued its decision, the district court judge in that case ordered the parties to file a joint status report by July 24, 2020, to resume proceedings in the case.

 

[Robert W]

Whether they are or not, they have not went for Trump which is counter to the thread title.

They are not a win for the Trump opponents. They are temporary and when reviewed go Trumps way.

 

[pknopp]

Good Lord. You went back to a ruling five years ago to defend what is happening here and now?

Because the same thing is happening.

 

[1srelluc]

The left does not get it....Trump wants to be sued.

Sued then small win by leftist judges....Countered by sane judges.....Off to SCOTUS it goes....See you in 2.5 years.

 

[Foxfyre]

Because the same thing is happening.

Again if you can't say how it is happening with credible evidence, you're just trolling.

 

[Foxfyre]

Whether they are or not, they have not went for Trump which is counter to the thread title.

Not unless you can provide credible information that disputes the thread title.

 

[daveman]

Not even most actually. The only ones ruling against Trump are the most woke, partisan judges so far and they are ruling against the constitutional authority of the President of the United States. They hardly can be taken seriously.

And some of them have inanely obvious conflicts of interest, such as the judge whose wife was getting funding from USAID.

 

[pknopp]

Again if you can't say how it is happening with credible evidence, you're just trolling.

Read the court cases.

 

[Robert W]

But you seem to be unable to say why they are 'weak arguments, false narrative sand bullshit.' Why is that?

Biden had 133 court cases against him as president.

Multistate lawsuits against the federal government during ...​

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Multistate lawsuits are legal actions involving two or more state attorneys general. By the end of his term in office, 133 multistate lawsuits were filed against the Biden administration.

 

[Foxfyre]

Biden had 133 court cases against him as president.

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Multistate lawsuits are legal actions involving two or more state attorneys general. By the end of his term in office, 133 multistate lawsuits were filed against the Biden administration.

There will always be people who sue the government for this or that. But the point in the OP is that most courts and most Americans are really warming up to the idea of DOGE and rooting out the fraud, corruption, inefficiency, ineffectiveness, incompetence, waste imbedded in our government.

It all stems from Trump's promises made, promises kept. And yes, many who oppose that are going to try to use the courts to stop it. But there is a reason the Founders established three INDEPENDENT branches of government. Their wisdom in doing that becomes more apparent every day.

 

[Foxfyre]

Read the court cases.

Link one for me to read.

 

[Robert W]

There will always be people who sue the government for this or that. But the point in the OP is that most courts and most Americans are really warming up to the idea of DOGE and rooting out the fraud, corruption, inefficiency, ineffectiveness, incompetence, waste imbedded in our government.

It all stems from Trump's promises made, promises kept. And yes, many who oppose that are going to try to use the courts to stop it. But there is a reason the Founders established three INDEPENDENT branches of government. Their wisdom in doing that becomes more apparent every day.

It seems the courts operate as if the court is elected to be president.

 

[Foxfyre]

And some of them have inanely obvious conflicts of interest, such as the judge whose wife was getting funding from USAID.

It never seems to occur to them that their incapability and/or refusal to support their arguments only strengthens ours.

 

[Robert W]

It never seems to occur to them that their incapability and/or refusal to support their arguments only strengthens ours.

PKNopp says he is no democrat. But can he do a better job talking for the Democrats?

 

[Foxfyre]

PKNopp says he is no democrat. But can he do a better job talking for the Democrats?

I won't try to define what he is or is not. But I can dang sure agree his track record is the same as being a hardcore partisan, even fanatical Democrat based on his posts and reactions to posts. We have a few on the right who are far too extreme to take really seriously and those are prone to also post what isn't verifiable as fact at times. But there is no way they can be confused as being Democrats.

This thread seems to have hit a huge nerve of those on the left/Democrats though and they try to team up to discredit the OP. But so far they have just managed to reveal how weak or futile their arguments are as not one has been able or willing to defend his/her position on anything.

 

[Foxfyre]

I'll give Dante one valid point though. The question in the OP does lend itself to be a type of "when did you stop beating your wife" question.

So I'll rephrase.

Question: Do you oppose cutting the waste, fraud, inefficiency, ineffectiveness, incompetence, corruption out of our federal government? If so, what problem do you have with Trump/DOGE doing just that? Please back up your opinion with verifiable examples.

 

[pknopp]

Link one for me to read.

Already did.

 

[Foxfyre]

Already did.

You linked a court case from 2020, five years ago, that didn't make your case at all if you read the last paragraph.

 

[okfine]

If the information as you put it is out there, you can surely provide one link from a credible source. Making derogatory posts and juvenile insults without any evidence to back them up is pretty much the definition of trolling.

Here is more for you...