Why support Israel?

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Because Israel is America's staunchest ally.

Like when Israel shared their 9/11 intel with us?

Congratulations. It's possible that you've said the dumbest hing ever said on USMB.

Even without all the messed up things like this Israel did to the U.S.

I'd still fail to see how they'd be #1, considering they've never fought in a war with the U.S.
Unlike France, Poland, Britain, Australia etc. who have fought in many wars with the U.S.

 

[Indeependent]

Because Israel is America's staunchest ally.

Like when Israel shared their 9/11 intel with us?

Congratulations. It's possible that you've said the dumbest hing ever said on USMB.

Even without all the messed up things like this Israel did to the U.S.

I'd still fail to see how they'd be #1, considering they've never fought in a war with the U.S.
Unlike France, Poland, Britain, Australia etc. who have fought in many wars with the U.S.

Like Iran & Iraq?
By lending 1,000 soldiers each vs 250,000 US soldiers?
Plus the Arabs stipulated no Israelis in any Middle East conflicts.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Because Israel is America's staunchest ally.

Like when Israel shared their 9/11 intel with us?

Congratulations. It's possible that you've said the dumbest hing ever said on USMB.

Even without all the messed up things like this Israel did to the U.S.

I'd still fail to see how they'd be #1, considering they've never fought in a war with the U.S.
Unlike France, Poland, Britain, Australia etc. who have fought in many wars with the U.S.

Like Iran & Iraq?
By lending 1,000 soldiers each vs 250,000 US soldiers?
Plus the Arabs stipulated no Israelis in any Middle East conflicts.

Iran?
Iraq?
We see them as boogiemen who are war worthy because.. because.. because?
Well, we certainly don't seem to care much about numerous African, or East Asian tyrants.
Why is Iraq, and Iran so special in the World sphere?

 

[Indeependent]

Because Israel is America's staunchest ally.

Like when Israel shared their 9/11 intel with us?

Congratulations. It's possible that you've said the dumbest hing ever said on USMB.

Even without all the messed up things like this Israel did to the U.S.

I'd still fail to see how they'd be #1, considering they've never fought in a war with the U.S.
Unlike France, Poland, Britain, Australia etc. who have fought in many wars with the U.S.

Like Iran & Iraq?
By lending 1,000 soldiers each vs 250,000 US soldiers?
Plus the Arabs stipulated no Israelis in any Middle East conflicts.

Iran?
Iraq?
We see them as boogiemen who are war worthy because.. because.. because?
Well, we certainly don't seem to care much about numerous African, or East Asian tyrants.
Why is Iraq, and Iran so special in the World sphere?

Oil.
Like you didn't know that.
Maybe you don't.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Because Israel is America's staunchest ally.

Like when Israel shared their 9/11 intel with us?

Congratulations. It's possible that you've said the dumbest hing ever said on USMB.

Even without all the messed up things like this Israel did to the U.S.

I'd still fail to see how they'd be #1, considering they've never fought in a war with the U.S.
Unlike France, Poland, Britain, Australia etc. who have fought in many wars with the U.S.

Like Iran & Iraq?
By lending 1,000 soldiers each vs 250,000 US soldiers?
Plus the Arabs stipulated no Israelis in any Middle East conflicts.

Iran?
Iraq?
We see them as boogiemen who are war worthy because.. because.. because?
Well, we certainly don't seem to care much about numerous African, or East Asian tyrants.
Why is Iraq, and Iran so special in the World sphere?

Oil.
Like you didn't know that.
Maybe you don't.

What about Venezuela's oil tyrant issue?

Yeah, we got such low oil prices from going over there. (rolls eyes)

 

[Eloy]

The European Jews would have done better to stay in their own countries and help the former Soviet Union and its satellite nations in Eastern Europe develop into democracies. They are a poison in the Middle East.

They're poison in the Middle-East, but not in Eastern-Europe?

Genrikh Yagoda, Lazar Kaganovich, Bela Kuhn, Jakub Berman, Matvei Berman, Leon Trotsky, Lenin, Roman Romkowski,Salomon Morel, Semion Mogilevich, Ludwig Fainberg, Marat Baragula...

You seem to believe all Jews supported the oppressive communist governments in European countries. I cannot express an opinion on that but you are missing my point.

Nope, but I do believe that the Soviet NKVD was more Jewish than Russian in the early - mid 1930's, as factual documentation supports that roughly 40% of the NKVD was Jewish, and roughly 35% were Russian, furthermore the founder, and head of the NKVD was a Jew Genrikh Yagoda.

You have just lost the argument. By making a distinction between [Russian] Jews and Russians, you are stating that Russian Jews are not Russians. If Russian Jews are not Russian then they must be some other nationality. Portuguese? Swedish? Irish, perhaps? Because if Russian Jews are none of these and belong to no nation then they ought to make a state for themselves. This is the argument or the creation if Israel. ... I take a different view.

Please check how many different nationalities live in Russia and are officially recognized, before spouting any further bs on the subject.
Xenophobia.

People born in Russia are Russians, not Portuguese.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

They're poison in the Middle-East, but not in Eastern-Europe?

Genrikh Yagoda, Lazar Kaganovich, Bela Kuhn, Jakub Berman, Matvei Berman, Leon Trotsky, Lenin, Roman Romkowski,Salomon Morel, Semion Mogilevich, Ludwig Fainberg, Marat Baragula...

You seem to believe all Jews supported the oppressive communist governments in European countries. I cannot express an opinion on that but you are missing my point.

Nope, but I do believe that the Soviet NKVD was more Jewish than Russian in the early - mid 1930's, as factual documentation supports that roughly 40% of the NKVD was Jewish, and roughly 35% were Russian, furthermore the founder, and head of the NKVD was a Jew Genrikh Yagoda.

You have just lost the argument. By making a distinction between [Russian] Jews and Russians, you are stating that Russian Jews are not Russians. If Russian Jews are not Russian then they must be some other nationality. Portuguese? Swedish? Irish, perhaps? Because if Russian Jews are none of these and belong to no nation then they ought to make a state for themselves. This is the argument or the creation if Israel. ... I take a different view.

Please check how many different nationalities live in Russia and are officially recognized, before spouting any further bs on the subject.
Xenophobia.

People born in Russia are Russians, not Portuguese.

are Basque Spaniards?

 

[Shusha]

Which countries did more for Jews than Poland, or the U.S?

Denmark comes to mind. She saved all but 102 of her Jews.

 

[BulletProof]

Denmark comes to mind. She saved all but 102 of her Jews.

Okay, that's 102 Jews. 5,999,898 more to account for.

 

[rylah]

They're poison in the Middle-East, but not in Eastern-Europe?

Genrikh Yagoda, Lazar Kaganovich, Bela Kuhn, Jakub Berman, Matvei Berman, Leon Trotsky, Lenin, Roman Romkowski,Salomon Morel, Semion Mogilevich, Ludwig Fainberg, Marat Baragula...

You seem to believe all Jews supported the oppressive communist governments in European countries. I cannot express an opinion on that but you are missing my point.

Nope, but I do believe that the Soviet NKVD was more Jewish than Russian in the early - mid 1930's, as factual documentation supports that roughly 40% of the NKVD was Jewish, and roughly 35% were Russian, furthermore the founder, and head of the NKVD was a Jew Genrikh Yagoda.

You have just lost the argument. By making a distinction between [Russian] Jews and Russians, you are stating that Russian Jews are not Russians. If Russian Jews are not Russian then they must be some other nationality. Portuguese? Swedish? Irish, perhaps? Because if Russian Jews are none of these and belong to no nation then they ought to make a state for themselves. This is the argument or the creation if Israel. ... I take a different view.

Please check how many different nationalities live in Russia and are officially recognized, before spouting any further bs on the subject.
Xenophobia.

People born in Russia are Russians, not Portuguese.

Delusional and dead wrong. Classic Xenophobia.
Russia is a multi-national country, with 21 national-republics and more than 185 recognized ethnicities.
"Hebrews" - is the official word they use referring to Jews.

 

[Indeependent]

Like when Israel shared their 9/11 intel with us?

Congratulations. It's possible that you've said the dumbest hing ever said on USMB.

Even without all the messed up things like this Israel did to the U.S.

I'd still fail to see how they'd be #1, considering they've never fought in a war with the U.S.
Unlike France, Poland, Britain, Australia etc. who have fought in many wars with the U.S.

Like Iran & Iraq?
By lending 1,000 soldiers each vs 250,000 US soldiers?
Plus the Arabs stipulated no Israelis in any Middle East conflicts.

Iran?
Iraq?
We see them as boogiemen who are war worthy because.. because.. because?
Well, we certainly don't seem to care much about numerous African, or East Asian tyrants.
Why is Iraq, and Iran so special in the World sphere?

Oil.
Like you didn't know that.
Maybe you don't.

What about Venezuela's oil tyrant issue?

Yeah, we got such low oil prices from going over there. (rolls eyes)

Grasping much?
The US ever gave a damn about getting oil from Venezuela?
Really?

 

[Lipush]

I don't get your stupid logic.
No matter where the Jews lived they never accepted welfare.
You're very good at doing your history work on Jewish murderers.
You suck at everything else Jew.
But please continue to embarrass yourself...with my help.

I think you're far too selfish, and stupid, to support those without nations.
You have come out already to say those without nations don't deserve support.
I've never once said Israel was supported, nor not supported, doofus, this is why no one likes you Jews, such selfish stupid prickly bastards.

Why do you think Jews ask for the support of Jew-haters? you're strange.

Have the Jews shown gratitude to anyone?
Not even the more friendly nations to the Jews like Poland, or U.S. haven't really gotten anything but BS in response from Jews.

What kind of gratitude do you expect to receive?

You're confusing.

Which countries did more for Jews than Poland, or the U.S?

Neither country I would say is treated particularly well by Jews.

Poland owes the Jewish people and should not look for any gratitude.

And the US gainst alot from Israel. If it wouldn't, it wouldn't have helped the state. USA does nothing out of real kindness. It's all a matter of what they get from it

Just like every other country on the globe.

 

[Lipush]

Because Israel is America's staunchest ally.

Like when Israel shared their 9/11 intel with us?

Congratulations. It's possible that you've said the dumbest hing ever said on USMB.

Even without all the messed up things like this Israel did to the U.S.

I'd still fail to see how they'd be #1, considering they've never fought in a war with the U.S.
Unlike France, Poland, Britain, Australia etc. who have fought in many wars with the U.S.

None of these countries face annihilation and have to struggle their own wars of existence.

Israel has total of less than 200,000 troops. How exactly do you expect a state to survive if we send troops overseas??

Not only you're confusing, but you're not making ANY kind of sense, whatsoever.

 

[Picaro]

From the Lavon affair, to the U.S.S Liberty bombing, to Jonathan Pollard..... It just seems to be a one sided affair.... Especially considering support for Israel makes Muslims more angry at the U.S.

Can someone please tell us what's the purpose for us to support Israel?

Just because you read about Israel in the bible, or because they're Jewish.
Really?
as if those are logical explanations?

lol Why should anybody care about 'what makes Muslims more angry'? Are you one of their fans? You like their culture and stuff like raping little boys and stoning female rape victims to death, blowing up subways, school buses, that sort of thing, do you?

Our very existence makes them angry; they know their 'culture and violent political ideology has failed miserably to make them Masters Of The Earth, and instead just turned them into stagnant shitholes wherein they focus on eating each other alive.

We aren't making them angry enough, really. They will keep badgering their betters until somebody finally bombs their magical asteroid and proves to them once and for all they're less than nothing, just another blight and dead end as a 'culture' and ideology.

 

[Picaro]

Poland owes the Jewish people and should not look for any gratitude.

True. Most of eastern Europe was as bad or worse than Nazis, but of course they all sweep their dirty launder under the Hitler meme, as if they had nothing to do with it; same for most of Europe, actually.

And the US gainst alot from Israel. If it wouldn't, it wouldn't have helped the state. USA does nothing out of real kindness. It's all a matter of what they get from it

Just like every other country on the globe.

that's certainly the way the U.S. State Dept. and most of the pols work it.

 

[Eloy]

You seem to believe all Jews supported the oppressive communist governments in European countries. I cannot express an opinion on that but you are missing my point.

Nope, but I do believe that the Soviet NKVD was more Jewish than Russian in the early - mid 1930's, as factual documentation supports that roughly 40% of the NKVD was Jewish, and roughly 35% were Russian, furthermore the founder, and head of the NKVD was a Jew Genrikh Yagoda.

You have just lost the argument. By making a distinction between [Russian] Jews and Russians, you are stating that Russian Jews are not Russians. If Russian Jews are not Russian then they must be some other nationality. Portuguese? Swedish? Irish, perhaps? Because if Russian Jews are none of these and belong to no nation then they ought to make a state for themselves. This is the argument or the creation if Israel. ... I take a different view.

Please check how many different nationalities live in Russia and are officially recognized, before spouting any further bs on the subject.
Xenophobia.

People born in Russia are Russians, not Portuguese.

Delusional and dead wrong. Classic Xenophobia.
Russia is a multi-national country, with 21 national-republics and more than 185 recognized ethnicities.
"Hebrews" - is the official word they use referring to Jews.

The day I take my definition of a nation from the Russians or the Israelis is the day I stop thinking.

 

[Indeependent]

Nope, but I do believe that the Soviet NKVD was more Jewish than Russian in the early - mid 1930's, as factual documentation supports that roughly 40% of the NKVD was Jewish, and roughly 35% were Russian, furthermore the founder, and head of the NKVD was a Jew Genrikh Yagoda.

You have just lost the argument. By making a distinction between [Russian] Jews and Russians, you are stating that Russian Jews are not Russians. If Russian Jews are not Russian then they must be some other nationality. Portuguese? Swedish? Irish, perhaps? Because if Russian Jews are none of these and belong to no nation then they ought to make a state for themselves. This is the argument or the creation if Israel. ... I take a different view.

Please check how many different nationalities live in Russia and are officially recognized, before spouting any further bs on the subject.
Xenophobia.

People born in Russia are Russians, not Portuguese.

Delusional and dead wrong. Classic Xenophobia.
Russia is a multi-national country, with 21 national-republics and more than 185 recognized ethnicities.
"Hebrews" - is the official word they use referring to Jews.

The day I take my definition of a nation from the Russians or the Israelis is the day I stop thinking.

I'm waiting for you to start "facting".

 

[K9Buck]

From the Lavon affair, to the U.S.S Liberty bombing, to Jonathan Pollard..... It just seems to be a one sided affair.... Especially considering support for Israel makes Muslims more angry at the U.S.

Can someone please tell us what's the purpose for us to support Israel?

Just because you read about Israel in the bible, or because they're Jewish.
Really?
as if those are logical explanations?

You could walk the streets of Tal Aviv and nothing would happen to you. If you walked the streets of Islamabad, for instance, there's far greater chance of you meeting a violent, painful end. I'll stick with the Israelis. You can support the people that want to kill you.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I think you're far too selfish, and stupid, to support those without nations.
You have come out already to say those without nations don't deserve support.
I've never once said Israel was supported, nor not supported, doofus, this is why no one likes you Jews, such selfish stupid prickly bastards.

Why do you think Jews ask for the support of Jew-haters? you're strange.

Have the Jews shown gratitude to anyone?
Not even the more friendly nations to the Jews like Poland, or U.S. haven't really gotten anything but BS in response from Jews.

What kind of gratitude do you expect to receive?

You're confusing.

Which countries did more for Jews than Poland, or the U.S?

Neither country I would say is treated particularly well by Jews.

Poland owes the Jewish people and should not look for any gratitude.

And the US gainst alot from Israel. If it wouldn't, it wouldn't have helped the state. USA does nothing out of real kindness. It's all a matter of what they get from it

Just like every other country on the globe.

Oh really?
Poland owes Jews, Haha good joke.

Millions of Jewish refugees accepted by Poland.

First Jewish civil rights movement by Poland the Statute of Kalisz.

The highest number of people who saved Holocaust victim Jews, or Righteous among the Nations by Poland including Henryk Slawik, Irena Sendler, and Eugene Lazowski.

Jan Karski, and Witold Pilecki warned the World about the Holocaust.

Żegota the biggest organization to help Jews in WW2.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Poland owes the Jewish people and should not look for any gratitude.

True. Most of eastern Europe was as bad or worse than Nazis, but of course they all sweep their dirty launder under the Hitler meme, as if they had nothing to do with it; same for most of Europe, actually.

And the US gainst alot from Israel. If it wouldn't, it wouldn't have helped the state. USA does nothing out of real kindness. It's all a matter of what they get from it

Just like every other country on the globe.

that's certainly the way the U.S. State Dept. and most of the pols work it.

Haha, another good joke.

No, no one in Eastern Europe was as bad as the Nazis, well Soviets were but not towards Jews, but rather by a NKVD which was predominantly Jewish.

The fact remains that while there were some Nazi collaborators all over Europe, this also includes Jews, and always included Germans as the biggest factors.