Why root for the failure of any candidate when it comes to the economy in particular? The well being of the nation shouldn't be a partisan issue.

[Anomalism]

Donald Trump just fired the data person for the BLS because he didnt like the numbers. He should fire himself. Are you saying we should simply root for Trump to gaslight us about the economy?

I didn't even mention Trump. I'm saying nobody should want the other side to fail our nation on certain issues just to be right, particularly the economy.

I think for many, winning is more important than the prosperity of the nation.

 

[citygator]

Harris would have been just as much of a disaster on the economy as pudding brain Biden was

The economy was better under Biden. Smaller deficit. More job growth. Higher GDP. Higher consumer spending. And all of that was on the heels of Trump shutting down the economy and cutting of goods causing inflation. I was there. Saw with my own eyes.

 

[citygator]

I didn't even mention Trump. I'm saying nobody should want the other side to fail our nation on certain issues, particularly the economy.

How do you judge “wanting to fail”? I expect inflation and job loss from Trump’s tariffs and a weak dollar from the sky high deficits and lack of confidence in the dollar leading to more inflation. Was that a “wanting to fail” or a statement of expected results?

 

[Anomalism]

How do you judge “wanting to fail”? I expect inflation and job loss from Trump’s tariffs and a weak dollar from the sky high deficits and lack of confidence in the dollar leading to more inflation. What that a “wanting to fail” or a statement of expected results?

If it doesn't apply to you then you shouldn't feel targeted. Decide for yourself.

 

[citygator]

If it doesn't apply to you then you shouldn't feel targeted. Decide for yourself.

Just asking for clarification. Most people interpret criticism as rooting.

 

[Anomalism]

Just asking for clarification. Most people interpret criticism as rooting.

Some people make it obvious it's completely a partisan issue rather than being about a desire for our nation's prosperity, and that all they care about is the optics of the other side failing.

It's not hard to notice. You're not a dumb person. I think you know what I'm talking about.

 

[Darkwind]

The prosperity of the nation benefits all of us. It's like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

So, do you make a habit of infering incorrect motives or arguments?

I did NOT say that the prosperity of a nation does not benefit us.

I said that the parties are about power, not prosperity.

Please keep the entire context of a thread in mind when speaking.

 

[Anomalism]

So, do you make a habit of infering incorrect motives or arguments?

I did NOT say that the prosperity of a nation does not benefit us.

I said that the parties are about power, not prosperity.

Please keep the entire context of a thread in mind when speaking.

My post was not a criticism of you. I was adding to what you said.

I agree that all they care about is winning and gaining power. What's actually good for the nation is more of an afterthought. It should be the primary focus though.

 

[Darkwind]

My post was not a criticism of you. I was adding to what you said.

I agree that all they care about is winning and gaining power. What's actually good for the nation is more of an afterthought.

My bad.

To Me, the entire discussion revolves around the corruption of the parties. Both are. The question is: who is less?

I would be hard pressed to answer that.

 

[citygator]

My bad.

To Me, the entire discussion revolves around the corruption of the parties. Both are. The question is: who is less?

I would be hard pressed to answer that.

Not even close.

 

[Anomalism]

My bad.

To Me, the entire discussion revolves around the corruption of the parties. Both are. The question is: who is less?

I would be hard pressed to answer that.

Personally I don't want to be part of the most corrupt party OR its slightly less corrupt counterpart.

You agree that both sides are corrupt. I think left and right wingers should seek to root out the corruption in their own parties primarily and focus on the corruption of other parties secondarily. I'm not saying to ignore the other side. I'm saying be more worried about corruption on the side you actively support.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Partisanship is a disease.

Partisan Is Short for "Partly Insane"

 

[j-mac]

Is there a path out of this situation? I suspect the division is intentional. The people running everything don't want Americans to find unity I think.

I think you’re right about that, but the people don’t have to follow in this country. That’s what is great about America. It’s the people in our constitution that are the sovereign…They/We can change our government when, and only when we’ve had enough.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Sometimes it seems like people wish for economic failure if it will make candidates they don't like look bad. This seems self defeating to me.

I’ve never understood this mindset.

Even when a politician I don’t like is in office, I still hope they succeed where it matters. If they can improve the economy, lower crime, strengthen infrastructure, whatever it is, that's a win for all of us. Why would I root for failure just to be right?

I get not supporting someone. I get opposing policies. But when people are openly gleeful about inflation, job losses, or social unrest just because it might make their least favorite party look bad, what does that really say about their priorities?

It’s like some folks would rather be right about how bad things are than see their country thrive. That’s not patriotism or critical thinking. That’s just spite.

I think that kind of mindset is short sighted and toxic.

I'll answer the title.

Economic views are different. Enact the wrong view and you will destroy it.

 

[Zincwarrior]

THATS ALL american POLITICS IS ABOUT. TRYING TO MAKE THE OTHER SIDE FAIL.

This is what they want you to believe. Its just one party.

 

[Anomalism]

I'll answer the title.

Economic views are different. Enact the wrong view and you will destroy it.

Let's say a politician you don't care for successfully passed something you didn't think would do any good. Would you want it to fail because you want them to lose and look bad, or would you just be skeptical and believe it wouldn't work, but also be pleasantly surprised and honest about it if it ended up doing something good that you didn't expect?

That's an important difference in my opinion.

 

[Anomalism]

This is what they want you to believe. Its just one party.

I think they might just be a lot more similar than they let on.

 

[martybegan]

Donald Trump just fired the data person for the BLS because he didnt like the numbers. He should fire himself. Are you saying we should simply root for Trump to gaslight us about the economy?

They were fired for always seeming to miss the initial numbers in a way favoring Biden during his Presidency before the election, and now all of a sudden figuring out the "proper" lower numbers off the bat when Trump is in office.

 

[initforme]

But what difference does it make how many jobs are added? Truth is adding jobs means little to nothing.

 

[pknopp]

This is what they want you to believe. Its just one party.

Both parties run up unconscionable debt. Both parties engage in stupid useless wars. Both parties routinely lie to us.