Why is trump meeting Putin in Alaska to discuss "swapping territories"?

[rightwinger]

Im just baffled by this whole thing.

I mean imagine the president had invited hitler to the US to negotiate away part of Europe?

Trump is not even bothering to see what Ukraine is willing to concede. He is just taking Putin’s demands and ramming them down Zelenskyy throat.

He also is ignoring Europe who has a dog in this fight

 

[TimFitz]

Another of your pointless spam posts.

Let's remember it was your FAGAt leftists who gave Putin an allowance for a minor incursion. You FAGAt leftists loved your Biden corpse because he held the same political ideology as his hero, Putin.

You’re the one spamming the thread with your childish and dishonest projections.

You’re the Putin lover here. Everyone here know it, yourself included.

 

[Lesh]

Because Trump is respected around the globe. Putin seeking credibility - meeting with Trump helps with that.

Bwahahaha

You funny man

 

[defcon4]

WTF?

Ukraine is one of the two countries at war numbnuts.

Dear Nut In Frenzy,

What a great response! You never cease to amaze me! "WTF" is yet another fantastic reply especially when it is coupled with "numbnuts!"

You're commenting on something you know absolutely nothing about.

Just like your moronic dear leader.

What an astute observation! All I know, what amounts to nothing in comparison to your deep knowledge, that Mr. Gorbachev was promised by the US that NATO would not expand further East of the river Elbe before the German unification and the 2014 US orchestrated coup in Ukraine resulting in the "ethnic cleansing" of Russian population in the Donbass region what Mr. Putin was watching with extraordinary patience for 8 years.

"Moronic leader!" Yet another good one!
Whether you like it or not, he is your "moronic leader" also. It is just how it is.

Normal people hate criminals and grifters, and Trump has over 50 years of experience.

Why do you embrace him?

Don't we all!
After some introspection, I did not discover any blind cultist streaks within. There are some things that I "embrace" and some things I reject.

Thank you for your kind reply. Truly yours.

 

[defcon4]

Why do you embrace him?

That reminds me of Mr. Biden

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Dear Nut In Frenzy,

What a great response! You never cease to amaze me! "WTF" is yet another fantastic reply especially when it is coupled with "numbnuts!"

So..........You think a peace agreement or ceasefire should only include ONE of the two parties involved?

What an astute observation! All I know, what amounts to nothing in comparison to your deep knowledge, that Mr. Gorbachev was promised by the US that NATO would not expand further East of the river Elbe before the German unification and the 2014 US orchestrated coup in Ukraine resulting in the "ethnic cleansing" of Russian population in the Donbass region what Mr. Putin was watching with extraordinary patience for 8 years.

That has absolutely nothing to do with Ukraine giving up their nukes for a promise, IN writing. for their security.

What you are spewing is Russian propaganda, that's a "surprise'.

While Russia has made a slew of outlandish assertions about Ukraine, including that the country is led by a Nazi regime, few Russian narratives have entrenched themselves more thoroughly in the Western far right and far left than that Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych was illegitimately removed from office in a Western-backed coup in February 2014.
This claim has been a key element of Russian propaganda, echoed in the United States by such public figures as independent U.S. presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., filmmaker Oliver Stone, and Cato Institute defense expert Ted Galen Carpenter.

"Moronic leader!" Yet another good one!
Whether you like it or not, he is your "moronic leader" also. It is just how it is.



Don't we all!
After some introspection, I did not discover any blind cultist streaks within. There are some things that I "embrace" and some things I reject.

Like your dear leader, that would be the TRUTH.

Thank you for your kind reply. Truly yours.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

That reminds me of Mr. Biden

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[defcon4]

I am not excusing Putin for what he did. There. Now, let's see you condemn the Nato.

The USA is NATO.

 

[22lcidw]

Trump is not even bothering to see what Ukraine is willing to concede. He is just taking Putin’s demands and ramming them down Zelenskyy throat.

He also is ignoring Europe who has a dog in this fight

You pay for the war. You have your family die for it. You won't.

 

[TimFitz]

You've been blinded. We are more of a multi-polar world than ever, Elektra.

I said nothing about people not wanting freedom. I am addressing the complacency that goes with this attitude you have.

We are drifting towards a multi polar world.

Thanks in very large part to Trump’s policy of abandoning the United State’s role as world leader, and letting conflicts fester.

in the case of Ukraine, Trump promoted and aided and abetted the Russian invasion.

And now, he’s trying to give part of zukraine away to the Russians as a reward for their duplicity.

 

[TimFitz]

You pay for the war. You have your family die for it. You won't.

The US is not paying for the Ukraine war, and the only people talking about families dying for it are Trumpsters.

Everyone else understands that if we don’t support Ukraine now your families will die in the next war.

isolationism was a failure in the 1940’s, for the same reason that it will be now.

 

[beagle9]

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All off of the backs of screwing the working man by having a two party system that creates total devastation when one party gains power and waves it's political interest wand against another party. They destroy culture's that are productive and 99% moral, and replace them for a subculture that is 99% unproductive and 99% immoral.

During the immoral stages it is that we still see ourselves as this supposed leader of the supposed free world, and all as we hide in plain sight our depravity and immoral decay as if the world is too stupid to notice or take note while we tell them or demand that they the world bend to our demands.

 

[22lcidw]

The few per cent of women who are like men are living great lives now with men suffering from the forced standards of emasculation. The rest are living off of that reputation also and are nation is in decline and will implode. An invader like China would eviscerate parts of the nation with troops.

 

[beagle9]

The US is not paying for the Ukraine war, and the only people talking about families dying for it are Trumpsters.

Everyone else understands that if we don’t support Ukraine now your families will die in the next war.

isolationism was a failure in the 1940’s, for the same reason that it will be now.

Trying to rewrite history already eh ?

 

[defcon4]

Dear Nut In Frenzy,

Thank you for your kindness in considering a reply to my humble opinion.

So..........You think a peace agreement or ceasefire should only include ONE of the two parties involved?

The war is a proxy war. Naturally, the major players should decide the outcome. See WWI and WWII as precedent.

That has absolutely nothing to do with Ukraine giving up their nukes for a promise, IN writing. for their security.

Ukraine has never had nukes. The USSR did, stationing them in Ukraine as the integral part of the USSR.

What you are spewing is Russian propaganda, that's a "surprise'.

I am not sure I would agree with that assessment. I consider propaganda as a biased and misleading point of view. Facts do not fall under that category. I recommend you watch this Dr. Jeffrey Sachs' video. Thank you again.

 

[beagle9]

The few per cent of women who are like men are living great lives now with men suffering from the forced standards of emasculation. The rest are living off of that reputation also and are nation is in decline and will implode. An invader like China would eviscerate parts of the nation with troops.

He uses a video showing Trump talking about what it's like being a rock star who has women that wants a rock star millionaire or billionaire to grab them by their private parts in hopes to hook up with people like that for a myriad of reasons.

Rock bands and culture's surrounding that kind of thing have been in existence in this country forever, and guess what ? The Democrats or leftist liberals were and still are the biggest advocates and participants in the cultural shifts that were ok with the lifestyles and activities taking place in this country since the 1960s. It's all good until it's rejected right, and then depending on the extent of the fatigue and rejection, then you'll see the culprits attempt to jump ship and melt into the opposition by quickly changing uniforms until their culture can somehow make a come back at another time.

 

[beagle9]

Obama got Iran to surrender their enriched uranium without bombing

If true, then how did Iran have site's buried deep in the mountain's with enriched uranium at levels close to making multiple bombs ? It takes a long time to build site's and infrastructure to support the agenda that leads to a nuclear powered state. You people are so full of chit that it ain't even funny.

 

[Rawley]

Sanctions and isolation as a rogue nation until they lose their will. Unless we want to go to war that is our only tactic. Everyone knows that. Especially the Ukrainians.

Trump wants a shortcut. He wants Ukraine to surrender.

You've tried exactly that for four years now. How many more hundreds of thousands of dead do you want. To sate your hatred of the President?

 

[TimFitz]

Wrong and implied guarantee is still a guarantee

Again you think we want to sign a deal and not ensure we get the benefit?

Have we not been trying to secure the country since we signed it? Heck haven’t we been even before there was one? Well other then during then during the Obama admin

We are not trying to secure Ukraine. I hav no idea why you made that up.

 

[TimFitz]

You've tried exactly that for four years now. How many more hundreds of thousands of dead do you want. To sate your hatred of the President?

Trump does want Ukraine defeated.

Partly because his fragile little ego can’t stand the fact that his attempt to blackmail Zelinsky backfired spectacularly,

But also because of Trump’s continued devotion to the Russian dictator.

Now Trump is playing Neville Chamberlain again. Trying to make a deal with Putin by trying to bargain away parts of Ukraine so that Putin can declare partial victory.

Putin isn’t particularly interested. Ukraine has already rejected the idea out of hand.

But if Putin does meet Trump, it will be a sign of Russian weakness.