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Why is there so little interest in real election security in several states?

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The desiccated fig leaf of voter fraud has long been the dubious cover for politicians eager to suppress their targeted citizens' right to participate in self-governance, despite the glaring lack of evidence that dastardly conspirators collaborate in sufficient numbers to pervert election results.

Flashing an easily-faked voter ID at a doting poll nanny is but one of the contrivances demanded of the patriot who has survived the orchestrated Bataan Death March without water in some locales where the pols outlaw the corporal works of mercy as antithetical to their political interests.

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The gold standard for voting security is hand-marked paper ballots, according to security experts. That’s because a paper ballot eliminates the risk of technical difficulties or certain kinds of malicious acts (think hacking) that could change or destroy your vote, and any concerns can be addressed with a recount. Because of that, most states currently use hand-marked paper ballots or have voting machines that generate paper records for verification.
But in six states — Indiana, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Jersey, Tennessee and Texas — some or all voters still cast ballots on machines that have no paper record whatsoever, according to data from Verified Voting. While there’s no evidence that these machines have ever been hacked during an election, it’s technically possible, and they’re also prone to all kinds of undesirable malfunctions, including losing votes. With no paper backup to audit, these machines are the kind of election security liability that politicians say they’re invested in fixing.
Yet according to FiveThirtyEight’s past reporting and additional calls I made for this story, in five of those six states there has been little or no effort in the past six months to prioritize updating machines with a system that includes a paper record...

It is as if a consensus of safety experts analyzed highway casualties and concluded that wearing a seatbelt is an efficient, effective precaution to significantly reduce fatalities, so legislators pass laws requiring that cars must all be pink for enhanced visibility.

Go figure.

 

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Democrat run states. Dems always said 'politics is local'. See. they were right. You get your people in all the right spots, you can do anything...right in front of us.
 

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Democrat run states. Dems always said 'politics is local'. See. they were right. You get your people in all the right spots, you can do anything...right in front of us.

Wait, did you just call Indiana, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Jersey, Tennessee and Texas "Democrat run states"?
 

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The thing about voter fraud, some states have such lack security that it usually will not be detected unless caught in the act. Recounts and investigations after the votes have been cast will not catch it because the laws/system does not provide for a way to detect it. Of course that's how those in power in those states want it.
 

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The desiccated fig leaf of voter fraud has long been the dubious cover for politicians eager to suppress their targeted citizens' right to participate in self-governance, despite the glaring lack of evidence that dastardly conspirators collaborate in sufficient numbers to pervert election results.

Flashing an easily-faked voter ID at a doting poll nanny is but one of the contrivances demanded of the patriot who has survived the orchestrated Bataan Death March without water in some locales where the pols outlaw the corporal works of mercy as antithetical to their political interests.

The gold standard for voting security is hand-marked paper ballots, according to security experts. That’s because a paper ballot eliminates the risk of technical difficulties or certain kinds of malicious acts (think hacking) that could change or destroy your vote, and any concerns can be addressed with a recount. Because of that, most states currently use hand-marked paper ballots or have voting machines that generate paper records for verification.
But in six states — Indiana, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Jersey, Tennessee and Texas — some or all voters still cast ballots on machines that have no paper record whatsoever, according to data from Verified Voting. While there’s no evidence that these machines have ever been hacked during an election, it’s technically possible, and they’re also prone to all kinds of undesirable malfunctions, including losing votes. With no paper backup to audit, these machines are the kind of election security liability that politicians say they’re invested in fixing.
Yet according to FiveThirtyEight’s past reporting and additional calls I made for this story, in five of those six states there has been little or no effort in the past six months to prioritize updating machines with a system that includes a paper record...

It is as if a consensus of safety experts analyzed highway casualties and concluded that wearing a seatbelt is an efficient, effective precaution to significantly reduce fatalities, so legislators pass laws requiring that cars must all be pink for enhanced visibility.

Go figure.

The only time Republicans care about election "fraud" is when Republican candidates lose elections.
 
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The only time Republicans care about election "fraud" is when Republican candidates lose elections.
The exception is Trump, after winning the electoral college in 2016, insisting that he had only lost the popular vote due to 3-5 million invisible bogus balloteers all casting fake votes against him.

Every one of the millions of ethereal dastards eluded the intrepid Kobach, appointed by Trump to expose one or two of them.

They're an elusive lot.
 
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Wait, did you just call Indiana, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Jersey, Tennessee and Texas "Democrat run states"?
Mindless hyper-partisanship demands that Georgia, with its Republican governor, Republican Secretary of State, Republican Attorney General, Republican Treasurer, and Republican-controlled Legislature should lead the list of "Democrat[sic] run states."
 

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The desiccated fig leaf of voter fraud has long been the dubious cover for politicians eager to suppress their targeted citizens' right to participate in self-governance, despite the glaring lack of evidence that dastardly conspirators collaborate in sufficient numbers to pervert election results.

Flashing an easily-faked voter ID at a doting poll nanny is but one of the contrivances demanded of the patriot who has survived the orchestrated Bataan Death March without water in some locales where the pols outlaw the corporal works of mercy as antithetical to their political interests.

The gold standard for voting security is hand-marked paper ballots, according to security experts. That’s because a paper ballot eliminates the risk of technical difficulties or certain kinds of malicious acts (think hacking) that could change or destroy your vote, and any concerns can be addressed with a recount. Because of that, most states currently use hand-marked paper ballots or have voting machines that generate paper records for verification.
But in six states — Indiana, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Jersey, Tennessee and Texas — some or all voters still cast ballots on machines that have no paper record whatsoever, according to data from Verified Voting. While there’s no evidence that these machines have ever been hacked during an election, it’s technically possible, and they’re also prone to all kinds of undesirable malfunctions, including losing votes. With no paper backup to audit, these machines are the kind of election security liability that politicians say they’re invested in fixing.
Yet according to FiveThirtyEight’s past reporting and additional calls I made for this story, in five of those six states there has been little or no effort in the past six months to prioritize updating machines with a system that includes a paper record...

It is as if a consensus of safety experts analyzed highway casualties and concluded that wearing a seatbelt is an efficient, effective precaution to significantly reduce fatalities, so legislators pass laws requiring that cars must all be pink for enhanced visibility.

Go figure.


I think you are grossly exaggerating that enough fraud happened to swing the election. There's no proof of it.
 

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But in six states — Indiana, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Jersey, Tennessee and Texas — some or all voters still cast ballots on machines that have no paper record whatsoever,

Definitely not a lack of interest.

Missouri attempted to go paperless ballot for awhile and there was a major backlash. Although we have no statatory requirement...Missouri is 100% paper ballots tabulated but voter operated optical scanners.



The pressure behind the non-paper ballot initiative was due to the concerns of environmentalist attempting to reduce the number of trees destroyed for ballot printing.


 

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Democrat run states. Dems always said 'politics is local'. See. they were right. You get your people in all the right spots, you can do anything...right in front of us.
And that was....
 

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The thing about voter fraud, some states have such lack security that it usually will not be detected unless caught in the act. Recounts and investigations after the votes have been cast will not catch it because the laws/system does not provide for a way to detect it. Of course that's how those in power in those states want it.
Can you explain how that works?
 

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