Why Is There Controversy Over Confederate Monuments?

[Divine Wind]

...Democrats made some bad decisions 150 years ago

Republicans today are still honoring those decisions in supporting the Confederate symbols

As shown by the last election, they are still making bad decisions. Corruption and cronyism is alive and well in Washington DC. The Democratic and Republican parties are no exceptions.

 

[rightwinger]

There is a big difference between having people who have racist views and having Governments that enact and enforce racist laws....that is what the south had

Not south. Democrats.

Conservative to the bone

Still (D) to their names. You must be proud.

Yes
Democrats made some bad decisions 150 years ago

Republicans today are still honoring those decisions in supporting the Confederate symbols

Having KKK running Democrats ballot was not 150 years ago.
Neither was segregation, that officially ended some 50 years ago.
Throughout the history, Democrats were constantly racists and you think that magically vanished just like that and you are now "good guys" who blame everyone else for things you did.

You never were, and never will be.

Todays KKK is staunchly Republican
It is Republicans TODAY that are standing up for preserving Confederate symbols and heritage

You seem to want to hold Democrats responsible for positions they held 50-150 years ago while you ignore Republican positions TODAY

 

[Divine Wind]

Not south. Democrats.

Conservative to the bone

Still (D) to their names. You must be proud.

Yes
Democrats made some bad decisions 150 years ago

Republicans today are still honoring those decisions in supporting the Confederate symbols

Having KKK running Democrats ballot was not 150 years ago.
Neither was segregation, that officially ended some 50 years ago.
Throughout the history, Democrats were constantly racists and you think that magically vanished just like that and you are now "good guys" who blame everyone else for things you did.

You never were, and never will be.

Todays KKK is staunchly Republican
It is Republicans TODAY that are standing up for preserving Confederate symbols and heritage

You seem to want to hold Democrats responsible for positions they held 50-150 years ago while you ignore Republican positions TODAY

Yet you want to forget the Democratic past, bury it and then turn and blame all on the Republicans. You know, like the fact the birther movement was initially propagated by Clinton supporters. Sure, some RWNJs took the ball and ran with it for 8 years(+) but to deny where it came from is to deny history.

George Santayana famously said "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." How can we remember the past when the Democrats are constantly trying to hide it, bury it or rewrite it to be more PC?

 

[rightwinger]

Conservative to the bone

Still (D) to their names. You must be proud.

Yes
Democrats made some bad decisions 150 years ago

Republicans today are still honoring those decisions in supporting the Confederate symbols

Having KKK running Democrats ballot was not 150 years ago.
Neither was segregation, that officially ended some 50 years ago.
Throughout the history, Democrats were constantly racists and you think that magically vanished just like that and you are now "good guys" who blame everyone else for things you did.

You never were, and never will be.

Todays KKK is staunchly Republican
It is Republicans TODAY that are standing up for preserving Confederate symbols and heritage

You seem to want to hold Democrats responsible for positions they held 50-150 years ago while you ignore Republican positions TODAY

Yet you want to forget the Democratic past, bury it and then turn and blame all on the Republicans. You know, like the fact the birther movement was initially propagated by Clinton supporters. Sure, some RWNJs took the ball and ran with it for 8 years(+) but to deny where it came from is to deny history.

George Santayana famously said "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." How can we remember the past when the Democrats are constantly trying to hide it, bury it or rewrite it to be more PC?

I do deny the past....because it is the past of racist southern culture and not political parties
Republicans in the south still opposed integration. Democrats in the north supported it
It was a Democratic President who signed the Civil Rights act

 

[Divine Wind]

I do deny the past....because it is the past of racist southern culture and not political parties
Republicans in the south still opposed integration. Democrats in the north supported it
It was a Democratic President who signed the Civil Rights act

Thanks for agreeing with my point even if you do it for specious reasons.

 

[rightwinger]

I do deny the past....because it is the past of racist southern culture and not political parties
Republicans in the south still opposed integration. Democrats in the north supported it
It was a Democratic President who signed the Civil Rights act

Thanks for agreeing with my point even if you do it for specious reasons.

Slavery existed in the south for 200 years before the Democratic party was formed. To claim it existed because of the Democrats is an offensive rewrite of history
As is your claim that Civil Rights was a Democrat/Republican issue rather than a North/South issue

 

[Redfish]

Still (D) to their names. You must be proud.

Yes
Democrats made some bad decisions 150 years ago

Republicans today are still honoring those decisions in supporting the Confederate symbols

Having KKK running Democrats ballot was not 150 years ago.
Neither was segregation, that officially ended some 50 years ago.
Throughout the history, Democrats were constantly racists and you think that magically vanished just like that and you are now "good guys" who blame everyone else for things you did.

You never were, and never will be.

Todays KKK is staunchly Republican
It is Republicans TODAY that are standing up for preserving Confederate symbols and heritage

You seem to want to hold Democrats responsible for positions they held 50-150 years ago while you ignore Republican positions TODAY

Yet you want to forget the Democratic past, bury it and then turn and blame all on the Republicans. You know, like the fact the birther movement was initially propagated by Clinton supporters. Sure, some RWNJs took the ball and ran with it for 8 years(+) but to deny where it came from is to deny history.

George Santayana famously said "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." How can we remember the past when the Democrats are constantly trying to hide it, bury it or rewrite it to be more PC?

I do deny the past....because it is the past of racist southern culture and not political parties
Republicans in the south still opposed integration. Democrats in the north supported it
It was a Democratic President who signed the Civil Rights act

there was as much or more racism in the north as in the south. The absolute worst racism I ever saw was against native americans in the west.

the civil rights act was passed because republicans voted for it as democrats filibustered against it.

as is usual for you, you don't have any facts straight. you make shit up, repeat talking points, and reveal yourself as nothing but a puppet of your far left masters.

 

[Redfish]

I do deny the past....because it is the past of racist southern culture and not political parties
Republicans in the south still opposed integration. Democrats in the north supported it
It was a Democratic President who signed the Civil Rights act

Thanks for agreeing with my point even if you do it for specious reasons.

Slavery existed in the south for 200 years before the Democratic party was formed. To claim it existed because of the Democrats is an offensive rewrite of history
As is your claim that Civil Rights was a Democrat/Republican issue rather than a North/South issue

members of which party filibustered the civil rights act?

 

[rightwinger]

I do deny the past....because it is the past of racist southern culture and not political parties
Republicans in the south still opposed integration. Democrats in the north supported it
It was a Democratic President who signed the Civil Rights act

Thanks for agreeing with my point even if you do it for specious reasons.

Slavery existed in the south for 200 years before the Democratic party was formed. To claim it existed because of the Democrats is an offensive rewrite of history
As is your claim that Civil Rights was a Democrat/Republican issue rather than a North/South issue

members of which party filibustered the civil rights act?

North or South?

 

[rightwinger]

Yes
Democrats made some bad decisions 150 years ago

Republicans today are still honoring those decisions in supporting the Confederate symbols

Having KKK running Democrats ballot was not 150 years ago.
Neither was segregation, that officially ended some 50 years ago.
Throughout the history, Democrats were constantly racists and you think that magically vanished just like that and you are now "good guys" who blame everyone else for things you did.

You never were, and never will be.

Todays KKK is staunchly Republican
It is Republicans TODAY that are standing up for preserving Confederate symbols and heritage

You seem to want to hold Democrats responsible for positions they held 50-150 years ago while you ignore Republican positions TODAY

Yet you want to forget the Democratic past, bury it and then turn and blame all on the Republicans. You know, like the fact the birther movement was initially propagated by Clinton supporters. Sure, some RWNJs took the ball and ran with it for 8 years(+) but to deny where it came from is to deny history.

George Santayana famously said "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." How can we remember the past when the Democrats are constantly trying to hide it, bury it or rewrite it to be more PC?

I do deny the past....because it is the past of racist southern culture and not political parties
Republicans in the south still opposed integration. Democrats in the north supported it
It was a Democratic President who signed the Civil Rights act

there was as much or more racism in the north as in the south. The absolute worst racism I ever saw was against native americans in the west.

the civil rights act was passed because republicans voted for it as democrats filibustered against it.

as is usual for you, you don't have any facts straight. you make shit up, repeat talking points, and reveal yourself as nothing but a puppet of your far left masters.

The difference was that the southern GOVERNMENT not only codified racism but enforced it

 

[Redfish]

I do deny the past....because it is the past of racist southern culture and not political parties
Republicans in the south still opposed integration. Democrats in the north supported it
It was a Democratic President who signed the Civil Rights act

Thanks for agreeing with my point even if you do it for specious reasons.

Slavery existed in the south for 200 years before the Democratic party was formed. To claim it existed because of the Democrats is an offensive rewrite of history
As is your claim that Civil Rights was a Democrat/Republican issue rather than a North/South issue

members of which party filibustered the civil rights act?

North or South?

we are talking political parties, not geography. Again, members of which political party filibustered the civil rights act?

 

[Divine Wind]

Slavery existed in the south for 200 years before the Democratic party was formed. To claim it existed because of the Democrats is an offensive rewrite of history
As is your claim that Civil Rights was a Democrat/Republican issue rather than a North/South issue

A lie by omission since slavery existed in all 13 colonies prior to the Revolution and in New England since the mid-1600s. This is why I mean about Democrats hiding and rewriting history. Ooops, you just did it again.

 

[Redfish]

Having KKK running Democrats ballot was not 150 years ago.
Neither was segregation, that officially ended some 50 years ago.
Throughout the history, Democrats were constantly racists and you think that magically vanished just like that and you are now "good guys" who blame everyone else for things you did.

You never were, and never will be.

Todays KKK is staunchly Republican
It is Republicans TODAY that are standing up for preserving Confederate symbols and heritage

You seem to want to hold Democrats responsible for positions they held 50-150 years ago while you ignore Republican positions TODAY

Yet you want to forget the Democratic past, bury it and then turn and blame all on the Republicans. You know, like the fact the birther movement was initially propagated by Clinton supporters. Sure, some RWNJs took the ball and ran with it for 8 years(+) but to deny where it came from is to deny history.

George Santayana famously said "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." How can we remember the past when the Democrats are constantly trying to hide it, bury it or rewrite it to be more PC?

I do deny the past....because it is the past of racist southern culture and not political parties
Republicans in the south still opposed integration. Democrats in the north supported it
It was a Democratic President who signed the Civil Rights act

there was as much or more racism in the north as in the south. The absolute worst racism I ever saw was against native americans in the west.

the civil rights act was passed because republicans voted for it as democrats filibustered against it.

as is usual for you, you don't have any facts straight. you make shit up, repeat talking points, and reveal yourself as nothing but a puppet of your far left masters.

The difference was that the southern GOVERNMENT not only codified racism but enforced it

so did the northern government, you moron. There were slave owners in Illinois and Ohio. There were Irish slaves in Mass and NY (indentured servants, slaves in reality).

when you try to make this a north/south issue, you make a fool of yourself. Its a lot more than that.

 

[Ame®icano]

Not south. Democrats.

Conservative to the bone

Still (D) to their names. You must be proud.

Yes
Democrats made some bad decisions 150 years ago

Republicans today are still honoring those decisions in supporting the Confederate symbols

Having KKK running Democrats ballot was not 150 years ago.
Neither was segregation, that officially ended some 50 years ago.
Throughout the history, Democrats were constantly racists and you think that magically vanished just like that and you are now "good guys" who blame everyone else for things you did.

You never were, and never will be.

Todays KKK is staunchly Republican
It is Republicans TODAY that are standing up for preserving Confederate symbols and heritage

You seem to want to hold Democrats responsible for positions they held 50-150 years ago while you ignore Republican positions TODAY

KKK is not Republican product and Republicans clearly distance themselves from that Democrat racist creation.

How many Democrats actually did that? Ever heard of, let's say Senator Robert Byrd apologize or even regret for being KKK? Nope, because he hasn't.

How many democrats TODAY distance themselves from BLM or Antifa?

 

[Ame®icano]

Still (D) to their names. You must be proud.

Yes
Democrats made some bad decisions 150 years ago

Republicans today are still honoring those decisions in supporting the Confederate symbols

Having KKK running Democrats ballot was not 150 years ago.
Neither was segregation, that officially ended some 50 years ago.
Throughout the history, Democrats were constantly racists and you think that magically vanished just like that and you are now "good guys" who blame everyone else for things you did.

You never were, and never will be.

Todays KKK is staunchly Republican
It is Republicans TODAY that are standing up for preserving Confederate symbols and heritage

You seem to want to hold Democrats responsible for positions they held 50-150 years ago while you ignore Republican positions TODAY

Yet you want to forget the Democratic past, bury it and then turn and blame all on the Republicans. You know, like the fact the birther movement was initially propagated by Clinton supporters. Sure, some RWNJs took the ball and ran with it for 8 years(+) but to deny where it came from is to deny history.

George Santayana famously said "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." How can we remember the past when the Democrats are constantly trying to hide it, bury it or rewrite it to be more PC?

I do deny the past....because it is the past of racist southern culture and not political parties
Republicans in the south still opposed integration. Democrats in the north supported it
It was a Democratic President who signed the Civil Rights act

You're funny.

I don't have time for longer replies, but I'll get back to you on this one.

 

[Divine Wind]

Todays KKK is staunchly Republican
It is Republicans TODAY that are standing up for preserving Confederate symbols and heritage

You seem to want to hold Democrats responsible for positions they held 50-150 years ago while you ignore Republican positions TODAY

Yet you want to forget the Democratic past, bury it and then turn and blame all on the Republicans. You know, like the fact the birther movement was initially propagated by Clinton supporters. Sure, some RWNJs took the ball and ran with it for 8 years(+) but to deny where it came from is to deny history.

George Santayana famously said "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." How can we remember the past when the Democrats are constantly trying to hide it, bury it or rewrite it to be more PC?

I do deny the past....because it is the past of racist southern culture and not political parties
Republicans in the south still opposed integration. Democrats in the north supported it
It was a Democratic President who signed the Civil Rights act

there was as much or more racism in the north as in the south. The absolute worst racism I ever saw was against native americans in the west.

the civil rights act was passed because republicans voted for it as democrats filibustered against it.

as is usual for you, you don't have any facts straight. you make shit up, repeat talking points, and reveal yourself as nothing but a puppet of your far left masters.

The difference was that the southern GOVERNMENT not only codified racism but enforced it

so did the northern government, you moron. There were slave owners in Illinois and Ohio. There were Irish slaves in Mass and NY (indentured servants, slaves in reality).

when you try to make this a north/south issue, you make a fool of yourself. Its a lot more than that.

Agreed. Notice how the LWLs want to make this a "the North is superior to the ignorant, redneck South" thing when, in fact, not only was slavery legal throughout the original colonies and many northern states but remained legal in the North after the Emancipation Proclamation. Slavery wasn't abolished throughout the British Empire until 1833 and even then allowed exceptions until 1843. To hold Southern states as an abomination unlike any other states or nations is just another example of Democrats seeking to rewrite history into a lie.

 

[Redfish]

Yes
Democrats made some bad decisions 150 years ago

Republicans today are still honoring those decisions in supporting the Confederate symbols

Having KKK running Democrats ballot was not 150 years ago.
Neither was segregation, that officially ended some 50 years ago.
Throughout the history, Democrats were constantly racists and you think that magically vanished just like that and you are now "good guys" who blame everyone else for things you did.

You never were, and never will be.

Todays KKK is staunchly Republican
It is Republicans TODAY that are standing up for preserving Confederate symbols and heritage

You seem to want to hold Democrats responsible for positions they held 50-150 years ago while you ignore Republican positions TODAY

Yet you want to forget the Democratic past, bury it and then turn and blame all on the Republicans. You know, like the fact the birther movement was initially propagated by Clinton supporters. Sure, some RWNJs took the ball and ran with it for 8 years(+) but to deny where it came from is to deny history.

George Santayana famously said "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." How can we remember the past when the Democrats are constantly trying to hide it, bury it or rewrite it to be more PC?

I do deny the past....because it is the past of racist southern culture and not political parties
Republicans in the south still opposed integration. Democrats in the north supported it
It was a Democratic President who signed the Civil Rights act

You're funny.

I don't have time for longer replies, but I'll get back to you on this one.

winger is gone. he/she/it always runs from a thread after being destroyed by facts and logic.

 

[Redfish]

Yet you want to forget the Democratic past, bury it and then turn and blame all on the Republicans. You know, like the fact the birther movement was initially propagated by Clinton supporters. Sure, some RWNJs took the ball and ran with it for 8 years(+) but to deny where it came from is to deny history.

George Santayana famously said "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." How can we remember the past when the Democrats are constantly trying to hide it, bury it or rewrite it to be more PC?

I do deny the past....because it is the past of racist southern culture and not political parties
Republicans in the south still opposed integration. Democrats in the north supported it
It was a Democratic President who signed the Civil Rights act

there was as much or more racism in the north as in the south. The absolute worst racism I ever saw was against native americans in the west.

the civil rights act was passed because republicans voted for it as democrats filibustered against it.

as is usual for you, you don't have any facts straight. you make shit up, repeat talking points, and reveal yourself as nothing but a puppet of your far left masters.

The difference was that the southern GOVERNMENT not only codified racism but enforced it

so did the northern government, you moron. There were slave owners in Illinois and Ohio. There were Irish slaves in Mass and NY (indentured servants, slaves in reality).

when you try to make this a north/south issue, you make a fool of yourself. Its a lot more than that.

Agreed. Notice how the LWLs want to make this a "the North is superior to the ignorant, redneck South" thing when, in fact, not only was slavery legal throughout the original colonies and many northern states but remained legal in the North after the Emancipation Proclamation. Slavery wasn't abolished throughout the British Empire until 1833 and even then allowed exceptions until 1843. To hold Southern states as an abomination unlike any other states or nations is just another example of Democrats seeking to rewrite history into a lie.

and that attempt to rewrite history is exactly why monuments are being removed in my city of New Orleans.

I ask any of our resident liberals to tell me exactly how this will help the city. Will it reduce the crime rate? will it fix the potholes in the streets? will it clean up the French quarter? will it bring more tourism to the city? will it create jobs for the unemployed? will it cut down on black on black gang violence?

What exactly will this accomplish? I anxiously await your answers.

 

[Divine Wind]

Having KKK running Democrats ballot was not 150 years ago.
Neither was segregation, that officially ended some 50 years ago.
Throughout the history, Democrats were constantly racists and you think that magically vanished just like that and you are now "good guys" who blame everyone else for things you did.

You never were, and never will be.

Todays KKK is staunchly Republican
It is Republicans TODAY that are standing up for preserving Confederate symbols and heritage

You seem to want to hold Democrats responsible for positions they held 50-150 years ago while you ignore Republican positions TODAY

Yet you want to forget the Democratic past, bury it and then turn and blame all on the Republicans. You know, like the fact the birther movement was initially propagated by Clinton supporters. Sure, some RWNJs took the ball and ran with it for 8 years(+) but to deny where it came from is to deny history.

George Santayana famously said "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." How can we remember the past when the Democrats are constantly trying to hide it, bury it or rewrite it to be more PC?

I do deny the past....because it is the past of racist southern culture and not political parties
Republicans in the south still opposed integration. Democrats in the north supported it
It was a Democratic President who signed the Civil Rights act

You're funny.

I don't have time for longer replies, but I'll get back to you on this one.

winger is gone. he/she/it always runs from a thread after being destroyed by facts and logic.

He'll be back as soon as he thinks up more lies. Count on it.

 

[BlindBoo]

Yes
Democrats made some bad decisions 150 years ago

Republicans today are still honoring those decisions in supporting the Confederate symbols

Having KKK running Democrats ballot was not 150 years ago.
Neither was segregation, that officially ended some 50 years ago.
Throughout the history, Democrats were constantly racists and you think that magically vanished just like that and you are now "good guys" who blame everyone else for things you did.

You never were, and never will be.

Todays KKK is staunchly Republican
It is Republicans TODAY that are standing up for preserving Confederate symbols and heritage

You seem to want to hold Democrats responsible for positions they held 50-150 years ago while you ignore Republican positions TODAY

Yet you want to forget the Democratic past, bury it and then turn and blame all on the Republicans. You know, like the fact the birther movement was initially propagated by Clinton supporters. Sure, some RWNJs took the ball and ran with it for 8 years(+) but to deny where it came from is to deny history.

George Santayana famously said "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." How can we remember the past when the Democrats are constantly trying to hide it, bury it or rewrite it to be more PC?

I do deny the past....because it is the past of racist southern culture and not political parties
Republicans in the south still opposed integration. Democrats in the north supported it
It was a Democratic President who signed the Civil Rights act

there was as much or more racism in the north as in the south. The absolute worst racism I ever saw was against native americans in the west.

the civil rights act was passed because republicans voted for it as democrats filibustered against it.

as is usual for you, you don't have any facts straight. you make shit up, repeat talking points, and reveal yourself as nothing but a puppet of your far left masters.

History shows that Northern Democrats and Northern Republicans passed the bill over the objections of Southern Democrats and Southern Republicans.