Why is the West pretending Iran is winning the war against Israel, the US?

[eagle1462010]

Yeah, it would never be the left and their 'media' who are chomping at the bit to arrest Trump for 'war crimes', and to fill the airwaves with accusations of 'genocide'.

Bunch of ******* Surrender Monkeys

 

[Hafar1014]

It's just your wishful thinking.

You can be this dumb

 

[GLASNOST]

Iran has destroyed Israeli GPS system so their F-35s can no longer operate. Israel is screwed again!

 

[Oddball]

Yeah, it would never be the left and their 'media' who are chomping at the bit to arrest Trump for 'war crimes', and to fill the airwaves with accusations of 'genocide'.

I'm not talking about Trump, dude.

You do know that Bibi and his wife are under hack for serious corruption in Israel, right?

 

[OldFlame]

I'm not talking about Trump, dude.

You do know that Bibi and his wife are under hack for serious corruption in Israel, right?

You stated the below, what was the point of the post other than to demean and imply the US military/Trump admin got their asses kicked by Iran? As if that would even be possible without the political bullshit and threats of war crimes against the US. Not sure how that was not talking about the US/Trump?

And yes, since like 2017 with those of you claiming that he wages perpetual war to avoid being put in jail when the trial has been ongoing, even shortly after the 10/7 attacks on Israel.

Iran holds the Israel/USA axis at bay, despite overwhelming numerical and technological disadvantage: "LMAO!...We're kicking their asses back to the stone ages and they're too stupid to know it!"

 

[toomuchtime_]

Oh, my... Guys, you've killed barely 0,001% of their population and pretend that you are winning. There should be something special, that you dealer had mixed in your MJ. Pure product can't cause this.

The goal is to destroy the regime while killing as few civilians as possible and so far the US and Israel have done a very good job of it. Iran's navy has been reduced to just fast boats and mini subs and all of Iran's military factories have been destroyed, so Iran will not be able to replace anything destroyed.

Its air defenses have been destroyed and there is no place in Iran the allies can't destroy and fly away unscathed. What's left of Iran's air force does not dare challenge attacking allied planes. Iran's military has been reduced to terrorists who are so weak they are only capable of attacking civilian targets and pirates.

Yes, Iran has been defeated and the regime is now so weak it had to call in Iraqi militia to try to contain the street protests.

 

[Oddball]

You stated the below, what was the point of the post other than to demean and imply the US military/Trump admin got their asses kicked by Iran? As if that would even be possible without the political bullshit and threats of war crimes against the US. Not sure how that was not talking about the US/Trump?

And yes, since like 2017 with those of you claiming that he wages perpetual war to avoid being put in jail when the trial has been ongoing, even shortly after the 10/7 attacks on Israel.

Iran holds the Israel/USA axis at bay, despite overwhelming numerical and technological disadvantage: "LMAO!...We're kicking their asses back to the stone ages and they're too stupid to know it!"

No, the point was the double standard.

 

[eagle1462010]

You stated the below, what was the point of the post other than to demean and imply the US military/Trump admin got their asses kicked by Iran? As if that would even be possible without the political bullshit and threats of war crimes against the US. Not sure how that was not talking about the US/Trump?

And yes, since like 2017 with those of you claiming that he wages perpetual war to avoid being put in jail when the trial has been ongoing, even shortly after the 10/7 attacks on Israel.

Iran holds the Israel/USA axis at bay, despite overwhelming numerical and technological disadvantage: "LMAO!...We're kicking their asses back to the stone ages and they're too stupid to know it!"

Our problem is again Not finishing this

 

[OldFlame]

No, the point was the double standard.

What double standard?

 

[toomuchtime_]

You're right, the US is weak and ineffectual because it is held back by the powers-that-be having their hands tied by the political pressure of its enemies.

The US and Israel are hardly weak and ineffectual. They have reduced Iran's military to rubbish, and they are only held back by Trump's reluctance to attack supporting infrastructure Iran will need when the regime is gone.

In 1967 Israel broke the Egyptian blockade of the Strait of Tiran in 6 days while fighting a war on three fronts against enemies backed by the USSR. The US and Israel can do the same thing in Iran is the same way Israel did in 1967.

 

[OldFlame]

The US and Israel are hardly weak and ineffectual. They have reduced Iran's military to rubbish, and they are only held back by Trump's reluctance to attack supporting infrastructure Iran will need when the regime is gone.

In 1967 Israel broke the Egyptian blockade of the Strait of Tiran in 6 days while fighting a war on three fronts against enemies backed by the USSR. The US and Israel can do the same thing in Iran is the same way Israel did in 1967.

I agree, it was a bit of sarcasm out of frustration.

 

[eagle1462010]

In the first Gulf War Bush said Rise Up against Saddam. Msny did and were slaughtered.

Inbelieve we are making the EXACT MISTAKE AGAIN.

Why should we stop when we had our foot on their neck?

 

[GLASNOST]

Why should we stop when we had our foot on their neck?

This time your neck is in the noose.

 

[Zavulon]

Yeah yeah you gonna fire nukes and shit

We will too Do it or STFU IVAN TROLL

Yes, it's highly likely. My bet is that you will escalate and won't recognise defeat until, at least, Russian counter-force strike. And then the price of your short-sightedness will be not just Middle East, but also Alaska and California.

 

[Zavulon]

The goal is to destroy the regime while killing as few civilians as possible and so far the US and Israel have done a very good job of it.

To destroy regime you need more than just few bombs. You kill few figureheads, other figureheads are getting promoted and everyone is happy. Regime change demands significant intellectual efforts to explain people why they should behave another way.
And, in practical terms, regime change by foreign invasion is simply impossible.
What is even more important, if the New Regime is pro-Iranian, it will be anti-American, too. Actually, even more anti-American than the previous regime. If the New Regime is pro-American, it will be anti-Iranian, and it means that Iranians will fight against it.
And if you want regime be simultaneously pro-Iranian and pro-American, American policy shouldn't be anti-Iranian.

Iran's navy has been reduced to just fast boats and mini subs and all of Iran's military factories have been destroyed, so Iran will not be able to replace anything destroyed.

First of all, it's overestimation, second - Iran still can buy weapons.

 

[eagle1462010]

Yes, it's highly likely. My bet is that you will escalate and won't recognise defeat until, at least, Russian counter-force strike. And then the price of your short-sightedness will be not just Middle East, but also Alaska and California.

California would be a bonus.

 

[Meathead]

Yes, it's highly likely. My bet is that you will escalate and won't recognise defeat until, at least, Russian counter-force strike. And then the price of your short-sightedness will be not just Middle East, but also Alaska and California.

You really are certifiable. ******* bonkers.

 

[Zavulon]

California would be a bonus.

Yes. Many Russians are also quite sceptical about it. They have pretty good reasons to doubt if we would be able to reintegrate it in the Russian Federation.
I believe, California would be a challenge, but the challenge quite useful even by itself.

 

[eagle1462010]

Yes. Many Russians are also quite sceptical about it. They have pretty good reasons to doubt if we would be able to reintegrate it in the Russian Federation.
I believe, California would be a challenge, but the challenge quite useful even by itself.

I say take them Enjoy

 

[IM2]

. . and still, we do not learn.


I am neither a naive adolescent, nor a washed up hippie. I just believe in what America once stood for.

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While I agree with your opposition to this war, America has never stood for the things you claim.