Why is the Party of "Tolerance" Always Violent?

[Carl in Michigan]

I was never a Trump fan, but the more I see of the behavior of the Fascist Hillary voters, the more resolve i have to vote Trump!

What a hypocritical bunch! These people must be defeated!

VIDEO: Agitators bang on doors at Trump fundraiser, punch attendees in 'gauntlet' - The American Mirror

Video shows protesters banging on the doors of the Minneapolis Convention Center where Trump was speaking to attendees.

When the event concluded, Trump supporters were forced to run a “gauntlet,” with many, including elderly women, being punched and pelted with garbage.

VIDEO: Agitators bang on doors at Trump fundraiser, punch attendees in 'gauntlet' - The American Mirror

 

[easyt65]

Once upon a time ot was ok to agree to disagree. That is one of the benefits to having a 'democracy' such as ours, created and protected by our Constitution and Rule of Law.

The kind of 'change' brought about by Communists/Socialists is not about beneficial change for the people but rather about 'CONTROL' & 'POWER'. The right to disagree is no longer acceptable. Having different views is demonized, met with intolerance, and eventually, if necessary, violence.

This change is not readily accepted by the majority, but it is thrust upon them just the same by those who 'suffer' the desire to control others. The ACA is a perfect example.

The majority of Americans did not want it. They made that perfectly clear. Liberals knew the majority of Americans did not want it...and they did not care. That is why liberals, in the wee hours of the morning, forced a minority-supported agenda-pushing piece of legislation - detrimental to this nation but which would give them more power over all citizens - into law against the majority will of the people.

What is desired must be TAKEN...by trickery / 'stealing' or by violence because it can bot be accomplished by arguing their ideas on merit and/or through peaceful conversation / discussion.

 

[midcan5]

In the above posts you see why conservatives could never create a nation or even a positive policy for all people. We'd still be under British rule if conservatives had their way. Failures in power and useless out of power. Dissent is part of America.

Q: What is conservatism?
A: Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.
Q: What is wrong with conservatism?
A: Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world.

These ideas are not new. Indeed they were common sense until recently. Nowadays, though, most of the people who call themselves "conservatives" have little notion of what conservatism even is. They have been deceived by one of the great public relations campaigns of human history. Only by analyzing this deception will it become possible to revive democracy in the United States.

What Is Conservatism and What Is Wrong with It?

"All conservatism begins with loss," Andrew Sullivan writes. "If we never knew loss, we would never feel the need to conserve." That’s why the first and still canonical conservative text is Edmund Burke’s “Reflections on the Revolution in France," a lamentation on the uprooting of that country’s monarchical order. And that’s why America, as an experiment in modernity, hasn’t had many genuine conservatives in its history." 'A Guest of My Time' 'The Kennan Diaries,' by George F. Kennan

"Hirschman draws his examples from three successive waves of reactive thought that arose in response to the liberal ideas of the French Revolution and the Declaration of the Rights of Man, to democratization and the drive toward universal suffrage in the nineteenth century, and to the welfare state in our own century. In each case he identifies three principal arguments invariably used: (1) the perversity thesis, whereby any action to improve some feature of the political, social, or economic order is alleged to result in the exact opposite of what was intended; (2) the futility thesis, which predicts that attempts at social transformation will produce no effects whatever—will simply be incapable of making a dent in the status quo; (3) the jeopardy thesis, holding that the cost of the proposed reform is unacceptable because it will endanger previous hard-won accomplishments. He illustrates these propositions by citing writers across the centuries from Alexis de Tocqueville to George Stigler, Herbert Spencer to Jay Forrester, Edmund Burke to Charles Murray. Finally, in a lightning turnabout, he shows that progressives are frequently apt to employ closely related rhetorical postures, which are as biased as their reactionary counterparts. For those who aspire to the genuine dialogue that characterizes a truly democratic society, Hirschman points out that both types of rhetoric function, in effect, as contraptions designed to make debate impossible. In the process, his book makes an original contribution to democratic thought." 'The Rhetoric of Reaction: Perversity, Futility, Jeopardy' Albert O. Hirschman

And Phillips-Fein book is excellent too. 'Invisible Hands: The Businessmen's Crusade Against the New Deal' Kim Phillips-Fein

 

[Carl in Michigan]

In the above posts you see why conservatives could never create a nation or even a positive policy for all people. We'd still be under British rule if conservatives had their way. Failures in power and useless out of power. Dissent is part of America.

Cute that the lib thinks the Founding Father's agree with modern day Socialism passing itself off as "liberalism."

Read The 5,000 Year Leap and realize who the Founders were.
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They were neither anarchists, nor totalitarians.

The Democrat Party embraces both -- the worst aspects of an immoral People.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

In the above posts you see why conservatives could never create a nation or even a positive policy for all people. We'd still be under British rule if conservatives had their way. Failures in power and useless out of power. Dissent is part of America.

Cute that the lib thinks the Founding Father's agree with modern day Socialism passing itself off as "liberalism."

Read The 5,000 Year Leap and realize who the Founders were.
.
They were neither anarchists, nor totalitarians.

The Democrat Party embraces both -- the worst aspects of an immoral People.

This is as ignorant as it is wrong.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I was never a Trump fan, but the more I see of the behavior of the Fascist Hillary voters, the more resolve i have to vote Trump!

What a hypocritical bunch! These people must be defeated!

VIDEO: Agitators bang on doors at Trump fundraiser, punch attendees in 'gauntlet' - The American Mirror

Video shows protesters banging on the doors of the Minneapolis Convention Center where Trump was speaking to attendees.

When the event concluded, Trump supporters were forced to run a “gauntlet,” with many, including elderly women, being punched and pelted with garbage.

VIDEO: Agitators bang on doors at Trump fundraiser, punch attendees in 'gauntlet' - The American Mirror

This fails as a hasty generalization fallacy.

 

[FJO]

I was never a Trump fan, but the more I see of the behavior of the Fascist Hillary voters, the more resolve i have to vote Trump!

What a hypocritical bunch! These people must be defeated!

VIDEO: Agitators bang on doors at Trump fundraiser, punch attendees in 'gauntlet' - The American Mirror

Video shows protesters banging on the doors of the Minneapolis Convention Center where Trump was speaking to attendees.

When the event concluded, Trump supporters were forced to run a “gauntlet,” with many, including elderly women, being punched and pelted with garbage.

VIDEO: Agitators bang on doors at Trump fundraiser, punch attendees in 'gauntlet' - The American Mirror

Take any OWS or BLM crowd, combine the years they all spent is school, and then you will end up with less than enough education than a mentally handicapped three-year old.

Then add up all the food they consumed at your expense and you will find that their free loading could have fed a third world nation.

Yeah, VOTE DEMOCRAT!!!

 

[Picaro]

I was never a Trump fan, but the more I see of the behavior of the Fascist Hillary voters, the more resolve i have to vote Trump!

What a hypocritical bunch! These people must be defeated!

VIDEO: Agitators bang on doors at Trump fundraiser, punch attendees in 'gauntlet' - The American Mirror

Video shows protesters banging on the doors of the Minneapolis Convention Center where Trump was speaking to attendees.

When the event concluded, Trump supporters were forced to run a “gauntlet,” with many, including elderly women, being punched and pelted with garbage.

VIDEO: Agitators bang on doors at Trump fundraiser, punch attendees in 'gauntlet' - The American Mirror

The Ford Foundation and Soros have handed the BLM racist thug gangsters some $140 million bucks to commit violence and hate crimes and kill police officers.

What you're seeing today is the Establishment's war on it's own people, and like Tammany Hall tactics of Old, they are taking the war into the streets and neighborhoods via their hired street gangs and organized crime. They hate this country, they hate you uppity proles, they hate patriots, they hate Xians, they hate the middle class boors; all of you have to either be killed or become completely passive and submissive to their wants and needs, like most of the 'progressive' and Hillary fan club posters here already are.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

This fails as a hasty generalization fallacy.

We ONLY see the behavior from the Left. So no, it's not a "generalization." It's acceptable and encouraged behavior of the left

 

[Grizz]

The fact is that Trump supporters are not killing cops.
They aren't rioting or looting.
They aren't disrupting Society. Only the ignorant Left is doing all of those things.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

This fails as a hasty generalization fallacy.

We ONLY see the behavior from the Left. So no, it's not a "generalization." It's acceptable and encouraged behavior of the left

In your OP you refer to Clinton supporters as ‘fascists,’ in post 4 you refer to liberals as ‘socialists’ – hence your ignorance, as they can’t be both.

And needless to say liberals are neither ‘socialists’ nor ‘fascists,’ which serves as further confirmation of the fact that both you and far too many on the right are liars.

 

[FJO]

This fails as a hasty generalization fallacy.

We ONLY see the behavior from the Left. So no, it's not a "generalization." It's acceptable and encouraged behavior of the left

In your OP you refer to Clinton supporters as ‘fascists,’ in post 4 you refer to liberals as ‘socialists’ – hence your ignorance, as they can’t be both.

And needless to say liberals are neither ‘socialists’ nor ‘fascists,’ which serves as further confirmation of the fact that both you and far too many on the right are liars.

Current American Democrats are socialists in their outlook of life and fascists in their action, present or proposed.

So, YES, they can be.

 

[Picaro]

This fails as a hasty generalization fallacy.

We ONLY see the behavior from the Left. So no, it's not a "generalization." It's acceptable and encouraged behavior of the left

In your OP you refer to Clinton supporters as ‘fascists,’ in post 4 you refer to liberals as ‘socialists’ – hence your ignorance, as they can’t be both.

And needless to say liberals are neither ‘socialists’ nor ‘fascists,’ which serves as further confirmation of the fact that both you and far too many on the right are liars.

Current American Democrats are socialists in their outlook of life and fascists in their action, present or proposed.

So, YES, they can be.

What's hilarious is they are nothing but Establishment stooges and hired help, yet they keep trying to sell themselves as 'revolutionaries' and 'progressives', which is ridiculous when they have the Ford Foundation and others funding their little street gangs of 'activists', their 'grass roots reformers' farces, and all the rest.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

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In your OP you refer to Clinton supporters as ‘fascists,’ in post 4 you refer to liberals as ‘socialists’ – hence your ignorance, as they can’t be both.

And needless to say liberals are neither ‘socialists’ nor ‘fascists,’ which serves as further confirmation of the fact that both you and far too many on the right are liars.

Like I said, read The 5,000 Year Leap and understand what the Founding Fathers were about.

Socialism, National Socialism, Communism, are all variations on the same idiotology.

The Founders saw Anarchy on one end and government tyranny on the other. They supported NEITHER. Different t factions of the Demonrat Party want both.

Democrats are STATISTS.
CONSERVATIVES support freedom within BASIC law.

The Left practices VIOLENCE to achieve its goals. You don't reject that. No on on the left really does. Most advocate it.

 

[Grizz]

This fails as a hasty generalization fallacy.

We ONLY see the behavior from the Left. So no, it's not a "generalization." It's acceptable and encouraged behavior of the left

In your OP you refer to Clinton supporters as ‘fascists,’ in post 4 you refer to liberals as ‘socialists’ – hence your ignorance, as they can’t be both.

And needless to say liberals are neither ‘socialists’ nor ‘fascists,’ which serves as further confirmation of the fact that both you and far too many on the right are liars.

Of course they can be both you idjit. Fascism is simply a tool that can be used by any radical ideological strain. Make no mistake both Hitlery and Obama are fascist to their cores.

Simple Definition of fascism

• : a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government
  
  
• : very harsh control or authority
  

 

[Muhammed]

I was never a Trump fan, but the more I see of the behavior of the Fascist Hillary voters, the more resolve i have to vote Trump!

What a hypocritical bunch! These people must be defeated!

VIDEO: Agitators bang on doors at Trump fundraiser, punch attendees in 'gauntlet' - The American Mirror

Video shows protesters banging on the doors of the Minneapolis Convention Center where Trump was speaking to attendees.

When the event concluded, Trump supporters were forced to run a “gauntlet,” with many, including elderly women, being punched and pelted with garbage.

VIDEO: Agitators bang on doors at Trump fundraiser, punch attendees in 'gauntlet' - The American Mirror

Those scumbags are committing acts of terrorism by violently attacking civilians in an attempt to change public policy. By definition, they are terrorists.

If they can be identified they should be deported or detained as enemy combatants.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Those scumbags are committing acts of terrorism by violently attacking civilians in an attempt to change public policy. By definition, they are terrorists.

If they can be identified they should be deported or detained as enemy combatants.

Absolutely agree. An unbiased media would be driving that point home. They are treasonous to a civilized Republic.

 

[rhodescholar]

Cute that the lib thinks the Founding Father's agree with modern day Socialism passing itself off as "liberalism." Read The 5,000 Year Leap and realize who the Founders were. They were neither anarchists, nor totalitarians. The Democrat Party embraces both -- the worst aspects of an immoral People.

No question about it. If the Founding Fathers were alive today, they would ban the national democratic party, and arrest its leadership. obama would likely be hanged for treason and actions against the national security interests of the US.

The dems' eager efforts to import huge numbers of illegal aliens who would be beholden to them for welfare in exchange for votes, the attempt to create a mass welfare class - which was specifically railed against by Jefferson:

"“To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.” — Thomas Jefferson, letter to Joseph Milligan, April 6, 1816"

would have led to them being liquidated as a political entity.

 

[jasonnfree]

I was never a Trump fan, but the more I see of the behavior of the Fascist Hillary voters, the more resolve i have to vote Trump!

What a hypocritical bunch! These people must be defeated!

VIDEO: Agitators bang on doors at Trump fundraiser, punch attendees in 'gauntlet' - The American Mirror

Video shows protesters banging on the doors of the Minneapolis Convention Center where Trump was speaking to attendees.

When the event concluded, Trump supporters were forced to run a “gauntlet,” with many, including elderly women, being punched and pelted with garbage.

VIDEO: Agitators bang on doors at Trump fundraiser, punch attendees in 'gauntlet' - The American Mirror

Looks like all the violence is done by the anti Trump crowd. The illegals and thugs sense a new sheriff may come to town to clean things up. Not that I call all anti Trumpers thugs by the way. Just wonder why anyone would vote for a corrupt p.o.s. like clinton.

 

[rhodescholar]

...."All conservatism begins with loss," Andrew Sullivan writes...

This is fundamentally false - conservatism is the protection of what one has BUILT and CREATED, and to prevent it from being lost/destroyed by those unwilling/incapable of valuing and sustaining it.