Zone1 Why is the MOU with Iran a "bad deal?"

[0311]

Iran got what wanted it and made a fool out of 47 to boot.

 

[rightwinger]

Iran got what wanted it and made a fool out of 47 to boot.

47 had to pay $300billion to say he was sorry

 

[Zincwarrior]

I see the MOU with Iran as a step towards peace in the Middle East and stability for world energy supplies. Why do any of you see it as a "bad deal" for the US? Please be specific and indicate what alternatives you now support.

Many people have said its the bigliest, best deal ever!

 

[Eman623]

And the American public will quiet down when the prices start dropping even faster than they are right now.

And when the Iranians get a nuke and start charging tolls again, or start demanding that Israel stop responding to Hezbollah rockets. What will that do to oil prices?

Trump answers for this country, and his ignoring the economics of it will cost us all our freedom if the Dems win the midterms.

The GOP was already going to lose in the midterms.

They could have opened the straights at any time had Trump done his effin job right. But that is under the bridge now, and what is important is that the US has NOT agreed to a damn thing. Pulling back the blockade will help us.

You can keep repeating that all day, but it's simply not true. We agreed to let Iranian ships through the straight.

You can either argue that nothing has changed, or that change has occurred but it's a good thing. You can't hold both of those positions simultaneously.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No regime change
Iran still had nuclear capability
It gives Iran the Strait
It gives Iran $300 billion

Numbers 2,3, and 4 are bullshit! Number 1 was never a goal. Just a possibility.

 

[0311]

And when the Iranians get a nuke and start charging tolls again, or start demanding that Israel stop responding to Hezbollah rockets. What will that do to oil prices?


The GOP was already going to lose in the midterms.


You can keep repeating that all day, but it's simply not true. We agreed to let Iranian ships through the straight.

You can either argue that nothing has changed, or that change has occurred but it's a good thing. You can't hold both of those positions simultaneously.

Darkwind will only accept the lies.

 

[Eman623]

Darkwind will only accept the lies.

I already know what will happen. The straight will open, and not much else, until the November election.

After that, Trump will decide whether to re-escalate.

 

[skye]

Anytime a war is stopped is a good deal.

I'm all for it, this stupid war should have never been started, at least it hopefully ended now.

 

[Rawley]

It does nothing Trump set out to do

No regime change
Iran still had nuclear capability
It gives Iran the Strait
It gives Iran $300 billion

A surrender by Trump

$300 Trillion

 

[skye]

If those two disagree, then it was a good deal.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I see the MOU with Iran as a step towards peace in the Middle East and stability for world energy supplies. Why do any of you see it as a "bad deal" for the US? Please be specific and indicate what alternatives you now support.

I mean...

(With 31% unsure or indifferent)

 

[Captain Caveman]

I see the MOU with Iran as a step towards peace in the Middle East and stability for world energy supplies. Why do any of you see it as a "bad deal" for the US? Please be specific and indicate what alternatives you now support.

to this bad deal

 

[skews13]

I see the MOU with Iran as a step towards peace in the Middle East and stability for world energy supplies. Why do any of you see it as a "bad deal" for the US? Please be specific and indicate what alternatives you now support.

Trump campaigned on not starting wars.

Now you want to debate a deal on ending one?

There is no deal. There isn't even a concept of a deal.

Back in February, Trump said he would only settle for unconditional surrender.

We didn't know it would be his unconditional surrender.

The alternative is never get into any war in the middle east. Especially any war Israel wants the US to get into.

 

[Oddball]

 

[jacksonlamb]

No regime change
Iran still had nuclear capability
It gives Iran the Strait
It gives Iran $300 billion

Four months ago he said he would accept only unconditional surrender.

We did not understand he meant his unconditional surrender.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Numbers 2,3, and 4 are bullshit! Number 1 was never a goal. Just a possibility.

No regime change
Iran still has enriched uranium
It gives Iran control of the Strait
It gives Iran $300 billion

 

[TemplarKormac]

I see the MOU with Iran as a step towards peace in the Middle East and stability for world energy supplies. Why do any of you see it as a "bad deal" for the US? Please be specific and indicate what alternatives you now support.

The deal isn't.

It's a tactical and political ploy to corner Iran. They are already falling for the trap.



The US made outrageous concessions to get them to the table without any intention of fulfilling them. Iran doesn't know that. Now they are painting themselves into a corner

 

[rosends]

The deal isn't.

It's a tactical and political ploy to corner Iran. They are already falling for the trap.



The US made outrageous concessions to get them to the table without any intention of fulfilling them. Iran doesn't know that. Now they are painting themselves into a corner

3 hours earlier Israel tracks incoming rockets. Who is violating what?

 

[jacksonlamb]

The deal isn't.

It's a tactical and political ploy to corner Iran. They are already falling for the trap.



The US made outrageous concessions to get them to the table without any intention of fulfilling them. Iran doesn't know that. Now they are painting themselves into a corner

How are painting themselves into a corner?

 

[Hollie]

It does nothing Trump set out to do

No regime change
Iran still had nuclear capability
It gives Iran the Strait
It gives Iran $300 billion

A surrender by Trump

You stole that from the hags on The View, right?