Did Trump even see the disastrous (JD Vance's) MoU before agreeing to it?

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Here's my comment, I almost sure Trump didn't see it. Especially if Naive JD Vance told him, "The Strait of Hormuz will be open and we give them something... just trust me".


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‘Utterly Indefensible’: Almost No One Has Said The Iran Deal Is Good For The U.S.
Forbes.
‘The Worst Foreign Policy Blunder In Decades’: Trump’s Iran Deal Blasted By All Sides.
By Sara Dorn,Forbes Staff.
Jun 17, 2026

Topline.
The U.S. deal to end the war in Iran was widely panned across the political spectrum as details of the secret agreement unveiled so far suggest it would heavily favor Iran and leave the regime more powerful than it was before the war...


U.S.-Iran deal criticized by both parties.
CBS Evening News.
Jun 17, 2026



'Trump should renege': Iran deal faces backlash from conservative allies.
Critics say the framework gives Iran huge financial benefits without requiring dismantlement of nuclear infrastructure
By Elaine Mallon, Fox News
Published June 17, 2026.

President Donald Trump's proposed Iran agreement is drawing sharp criticism from some of his strongest supporters, who argue the deal rewards Tehran before it has agreed to fully dismantle its nuclear program.


Fox’s Trey Gowdy Trashes Trump Peace Deal for Making Iran a ‘Richer Country’ Even Though ‘They Lost The War’.
Sarah Rumpf. June 17, 2026.

Fox News host Trey Gowdy criticized the memorandum of understanding (MOU) that President Trump is set to sign with Iran, arguing that it will make Iran richer despite losing the war.


Fox News Contributor Slams Trump for Signing ‘A Great Deal For Iran’.
Kathryn Wilkens.
Wed, June 17, 2026.
On Wednesday's edition of Special Report With Bret Baier, Fox News contributor Leslie Marshall slammed President Donald Trump's memorandum of understanding with the Iranian regime, describing it as "a great deal for Iran."

Appearing late on Wednesday night while departing Versailles, Trump announced the MOU had been signed.

Citing a senior U.S. official who said, "We're going to just work together and see if we can… do some things to build trust," Fox News' Bret Baier said, "That is a big change in how they're talking about the Iranian regime."


Even Trump’s Cabinet Hates the Iran Deal.
CIA Director John Ratcliffe, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and Secretary of War Pete Hegseth all have voiced doubts about Iran’s commitment not to build a nuclear weapon.
Rubio and Hegseth speak to press.
Malcolm Ferguson. June 16, 2026.
CIA Director John Ratcliffe and others within the Trump administration don’t think Iran is being serious about its promise not to develop or attain nuclear weapons, according to anonymous sources from Axios.


GOP senator: Trump Iran deal ‘tremendous foreign policy blunder’.
by Max Rego 06/17/26.
Republican Sen. Bill Cassidy (La.) on Wednesday slammed the deal between the Trump administration and Iran, two days before the two sides are set to sign it.
“The details that I’ve seen so far look … awful. This will go down as a tremendous foreign policy blunder,” Cassidy told Nexstar’s Reshad Hudson on Capitol Hill.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5928209-cassidy-blasts-trump-iran/


'A record of America's failure': What Iran celebrates in agreement with US.
CNN.
YouTube.



Middle East experts weigh terms of U.S.-Iran deal and who came out ahead. PBS. June 17, 2026.
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Miad Maleki:

You know, in my view, and I have said this before, if we had just lifted the blockade, Iranian regime would have had to force to open the Strait of Hormuz for most for the sake of their own economy and also because they have to normalize the relationship with UAE, where they have hundreds of billions of dollars in assets and funds to go through, with the Chinese, with the Indians, with Pakistanis.

They have to get back to get their economy back. I mean, it's an economy that has collapsed. So, I don't think we should have given a no new sanction type commitment or any kind of authorization for oil sale just to get the Strait of Hormuz open and without getting clear concessions on the nuclear front...

I think I also wanted to add that saying that we need to cut our losses, let's look at the facts. Before this war, in January, when Iran had $435 million a day in trade through the Persian Gulf, when Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz was open, they had the largest protests in the history of Islamic Republic.

They had to kill 40,000 innocent Iranians to send people back home because of their economy. Now we're going through a war. And I think the most punishing thing that you can do to this regime is send it back to deal with the state of economy that is in today.

And for that reason, I think opening the Strait of Hormuz didn't really need a whole lot of sanctions relief or any kind of commitments to the regime, and they would have had to open it.

Now, as far as the objective, just to be clear, I think it was false to say that you can go and topple a regime or bring about serious, meaningful changes in political dynamics within the Iranian regime with a campaign of airstrikes.

I think the reason for that campaign was causing degradation and degrading Iran's missile drone programs and the buildup of their nuclear enrichment program. I think those have been met. I think Iran is significantly in much worse position than it was before the war. It's less of a threat to our national security.

Just in 2023, IRGC targeted water facilities in the state of Pennsylvania. They were building up drones and missile facilities in Venezuela. Now they're nowhere close to posing that type of threat to us. Now I think we should just send them back and have them deal with the reality that they faced in January, but much worse economic situation.





Did Trump see the disastrous (JD Vance's) MoU before agreeing to it?
From ABC stuff


It's entirely possible that Trump, the "Art of the Deal" master, never saw the details of the MoU --brokered by fake "friends" Qatar/Pakistan-- before blindly placing his confidence in JD Vance. Yet virtually no one argues that this deal is good for America. There is broad consensus across Republicans, Democrats, conservatives, and many others that the sole beneficiary would be Iran's oppressive regime and its jihadist proxies.

No one believes that the $300 billion would simply be spent on "reconstruction." Just like the regime has been doing with Obama's cash release for its annihilation nuclear program, ballistic missiles, shahed drones and other destructive weaponry; maintain and boost its jihadi proxies in Yemen, Lebanon, Iraq, Gaza, Africa, etc; spread its diabolic ideology globally; sent gangs in Europe on terror or/and murderous spree, plots and violent operations targeting dissidents and opponents abroad and attacking US and its allies with cyber attacks, among others.

See genocidal Islamist government - Hamas in Gaza, prioritizing its military infrastructure, terror tunnels and weapons over the welfare of its people, while using civilians as human shields and exposing them to the consequences of its actions.

If the details were truly so beneficial, why were they kept from public scrutiny? It's no surprise that JD Vance chose to keep the most controversial provisions under wraps. The secrecy itself raises serious questions about what supporters of the agreement did not want the public to see.
 

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Here's my comment, I almost sure Trump didn't see it. Especially if Naive JD Vance told him, "The Strait of Hornuz will be open and we give them something... just trust me"



Did Trump see the disastrous (JD Vance's) MoU before agreeing to it?
From ABC stuff


It's entirely possible that Trump, the "Art of the Deal" master, never saw the details of the MoU --brokered by fake "friends" Qatar/Pakistan-- before blindly placing his confidence in JD Vance. Yet virtually no one argues that this deal is good for America. There is broad consensus across Republicans, Democrats, conservatives, and many others that the sole beneficiary would be Iran's oppressive regime and its jihadist proxies.

No one believes that the $300 billion would simply be spent on "reconstruction." Just like the regime has been doing with Obama's cash release for its annihilation nuclear program, ballistic missiles, shahed drones and other destructive weaponry; maintain and boost its jihadi proxies in Yemen, Lebanon, Iraq, Gaza, Africa, etc; spread its diabolic ideology globally; sent gangs in Europe on terror or/and murderous spree, plots and violent operations targeting dissidents and opponents abroad and attacking US and its allies with cyber attacks, among others.

See genocidal Islamist government - Hamas in Gaza, prioritizing its military infrastructure, terror tunnels and weapons over the welfare of its people, while using civilians as human shields and exposing them to the consequences of its actions.

If the details were truly so beneficial, why were they kept from public scrutiny? It's no surprise that JD Vance chose to keep the most controversial provisions under wraps. The secrecy itself raises serious questions about what supporters of the agreement did not want the public to see.
Aw, is MIster Israel Hasbara mad because Trump is not bowing to your ilk to

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Here's my comment, I almost sure Trump didn't see it. Especially if Naive JD Vance told him, "The Strait of Hormuz will be open and we give them something... just trust me"



Did Trump see the disastrous (JD Vance's) MoU before agreeing to it?
From ABC stuff


It's entirely possible that Trump, the "Art of the Deal" master, never saw the details of the MoU --brokered by fake "friends" Qatar/Pakistan-- before blindly placing his confidence in JD Vance. Yet virtually no one argues that this deal is good for America. There is broad consensus across Republicans, Democrats, conservatives, and many others that the sole beneficiary would be Iran's oppressive regime and its jihadist proxies.

No one believes that the $300 billion would simply be spent on "reconstruction." Just like the regime has been doing with Obama's cash release for its annihilation nuclear program, ballistic missiles, shahed drones and other destructive weaponry; maintain and boost its jihadi proxies in Yemen, Lebanon, Iraq, Gaza, Africa, etc; spread its diabolic ideology globally; sent gangs in Europe on terror or/and murderous spree, plots and violent operations targeting dissidents and opponents abroad and attacking US and its allies with cyber attacks, among others.

See genocidal Islamist government - Hamas in Gaza, prioritizing its military infrastructure, terror tunnels and weapons over the welfare of its people, while using civilians as human shields and exposing them to the consequences of its actions.

If the details were truly so beneficial, why were they kept from public scrutiny? It's no surprise that JD Vance chose to keep the most controversial provisions under wraps. The secrecy itself raises serious questions about what supporters of the agreement did not want the public to see.
Have you seen it?

You do understand, I hope, that this is not a deal. It is Memorandum of Understanding. (MOU)
 
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Here's my comment, I almost sure Trump didn't see it. Especially if Naive JD Vance told him, "The Strait of Hormuz will be open and we give them something... just trust me".

Next see the pro jihadi fascist and pro Hitler infamous troll using "buck eye" new account to spam.

Why do you people refuse to hold Trump accountable for anything? It's always his advisors fault or someone else's fault. Nobody does anything without Trump's approval.
 
There is a signing in Switzerland tomorrow by JD Vance
A signing of an MOU.

I hope you understand that it is basically just a cease-fire document.


NO DEAL HAS BEEN CUT. Full stop.
 
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Going after Iran was a huge mistake. And yet, the hangers on refuse to let go. Trump could have sold me, but he keeps doing idiotic things.
 
Actually they read it to trump while he was sleeping so as not to confuse him. After he woke up they listened to him lie about the stolen election and when he was done they got him to sign it.
 
Why do you people refuse to hold Trump accountable for anything? It's always his advisors fault or someone else's fault. Nobody does anything without Trump's approval.
You have a valid point. But Trump has many years of experiencing im successful deals. This one is the worst , by all accounts and by all sides.
 

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