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WHat specifically are you referring to?
Sounds like something the leader of a cult would say.Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life- such a person cannot be my disciple."
There are literally dozens of versions of the Bible, based both on content selection and translation. Blame everyone from King James onward for using their common English (at that time) to translate.why can't they just say what they really mean so there isn't any confusion like that? Or did that get lost over translation?
Aramaic was the language Jesus and Apostles spoke. Aramaic was first translated in Greek and/or Latin. Eventually we had an English translation, and word usage/definitions in English evolves and changes over time. Examples:I'm asking this question because it came up in another topic. Obviously the term hate in the Bible doesn't always mean the same as strongly disliking something because we aren't really supposed to hate our parents,.. just love God more. So why can't they just say what they really mean so there isn't any confusion like that? Or did that get lost over translation?
Because most of us can't speak ancient Greek.I'm asking this question because it came up in another topic. Obviously the term hate in the Bible doesn't always mean the same as strongly disliking something because we aren't really supposed to hate our parents,.. just love God more. So why can't they just say what they really mean so there isn't any confusion like that? Or did that get lost over translation?
Ancient Hebrew (and most likely Aramaic) had under 7,000 words. Context mattered.) Ancient Greek had about 60,000 words; Latin about 40,000. Modern English: Over 170,000.Or did that get lost over translation?
Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life- such a person cannot be my disciple."
Still sounds like something only a cult leader would say.Jesus was referring to those who would be his disciples at the time. He hadn't yet died on the cross for the entire world's sins. After he was crucified and resurrected, anyone could become a disciple of Christ.
Jesus was referring to those who would be his disciples at the time. He hadn't yet died on the cross for the entire world's sins. After he was crucified and resurrected, anyone could become a disciple of Christ.
In this particular verse, "set aside" is probably an apt translation. Disciples are even asked to set aside the life they are currently living. That is a big deal.Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life- such a person cannot be my disciple."
Still sounds like something only a cult leader would say.
Yes, but what does that have to do with "hating" anyone?
I hate liver and onions, but I'm not going to go to the store and try to destroy all the liver in the meat department.
A cult leader would certainly tell you to hate anyone who might detract from your complete submission to the cult leader.Nope. A "cult" would be wary and suspicious of you, excluding you from their group.
You're just as free to become a disciple as anyone else: That's God's free gift to you.
In this particular verse, "set aside" is probably an apt translation. Disciples are even asked to set aside the life they are currently living. That is a big deal.
A cult leader would certainly tell you to hate anyone who might detract from your complete submission to the cult leader.
And why do you think your translation is correct? Just because it would better fit your preferred narritive is not a valid reason.In this particular verse, "set aside" is probably an apt translation. Disciples are even asked to set aside the life they are currently living. That is a big deal.
