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Why is the criminal rehabilitation program in the United States such a joke?

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We just lock them up and forget about them for the duration of their sentence; allowing them to roam prison somewhat freely, and join up with gangs. However, no real attempt at rehabilitation ever occurs. Then we wonder why 70% of first time felons serving their first prison sentence return for a second after release. Most people who go to prison come out worse than they were when they went in. Its a complete sham, and a waste of taxpayer money.
 

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We just lock them up and forget about them for the duration of their sentence; allowing them to roam prison somewhat freely, and join up with gangs. However, no real attempt at rehabilitation ever occurs. Then we wonder why 70% of first time felons serving their first prison sentence return for a second after release. Most people who go to prison come out worse than they were when they went in. Its a complete sham, and a waste of taxpayer money.
You have NO IDEA what you are talking about.
 

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Prison is a terrific place, for making better criminals.
 

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Here in California the problem is Liberal Judges, they let violent criminals go, all the time, to commit more murder.

I think it is simply that Democrats and Liberals are just not that smart.

Criminals need to be kept in Jail forever or simply apply the Death Penalty, no more plea bargains, reduced sentences, time off for good behavior. No getting married while in Jail, no getting pregnant in Jail. No more Psychologists and Psychiatrist coming up with excuses for criminals.

The criminal is not the problem, it is Liberals and Democrats.
 

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We just lock them up and forget about them for the duration of their sentence; allowing them to roam prison somewhat freely, and join up with gangs. However, no real attempt at rehabilitation ever occurs. Then we wonder why 70% of first time felons serving their first prison sentence return for a second after release. Most people who go to prison come out worse than they were when they went in. Its a complete sham, and a waste of taxpayer money.

Everyone treated the same, free housing, free food, universal medical care and only law enforcement has guns, hell prison is a progressive utopia, I'm surprised anyone would want to leave. It would be a perfect place for some of the posters around here.
 

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We just lock them up and forget about them for the duration of their sentence; allowing them to roam prison somewhat freely, and join up with gangs. However, no real attempt at rehabilitation ever occurs. Then we wonder why 70% of first time felons serving their first prison sentence return for a second after release. Most people who go to prison come out worse than they were when they went in. Its a complete sham, and a waste of taxpayer money.

So you guys are saying that if somebody shoots Obama they shouldn't go to prison on account of it won't rehabilitate them? Interesting.
 

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We just lock them up and forget about them for the duration of their sentence; allowing them to roam prison somewhat freely, and join up with gangs. However, no real attempt at rehabilitation ever occurs. Then we wonder why 70% of first time felons serving their first prison sentence return for a second after release. Most people who go to prison come out worse than they were when they went in. Its a complete sham, and a waste of taxpayer money.

Lot's of Right Wing profiteers benefit from the prison program. This is why you will and already might have heard some trolling or "negative responses without brainy input"

The funny thing is the Right Wing hates government $ until it's in their own pocket. Then they justify it. Yet they never understood it.

I made sure to get a Right Wing post, so it didn't look bias;
6 shocking revelations about how private prisons make money - Salon.com
 

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We just lock them up and forget about them for the duration of their sentence; allowing them to roam prison somewhat freely, and join up with gangs. However, no real attempt at rehabilitation ever occurs. Then we wonder why 70% of first time felons serving their first prison sentence return for a second after release. Most people who go to prison come out worse than they were when they went in. Its a complete sham, and a waste of taxpayer money.

But it's the conservative idea of Nirvanah. Bad people should be punished. That should be rehabilitation enough. Of course that is why we spend more per capita for prisons than just about any country in the world outside of some third world countries.
We just lock them up and forget about them for the duration of their sentence; allowing them to roam prison somewhat freely, and join up with gangs. However, no real attempt at rehabilitation ever occurs. Then we wonder why 70% of first time felons serving their first prison sentence return for a second after release. Most people who go to prison come out worse than they were when they went in. Its a complete sham, and a waste of taxpayer money.

But it's the conservative idea of Nirvanah. Bad people should be punished. That should be rehabilitation enough. Of course that is why we spend more per capita for prisons than any other country in the world. We also have more people per capita in prison than any other country in the world. Hey, at least we're still number one at something, right?
 

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I don't believe in private or public prisons, though putting criminals in mental health institutions would still be a technical prison - for severely violent/unstable offenders.

With the justice system, you could try rehabilitation centers and close the prisons except for the most severe offenders, but it is simply the case that a lot can't be rehabilated.

You could try the Star Trek utopian justice system, but psychologists /counsellers can't just fix people and send them away easily. If it was that simple, we could just resocialise the lot, put them in jobs and close them down.

Under the hypothetical scenario you get rid of prisons, and capital crimes are branded as instances of insanity or mental instability, it would just be replacing a prison with a technical prison like a high security hospital wing.
 

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Isolation with access to education is the only thing that works for prisoners.
So you guys are saying all those fag-bashings by black gang-bangers that go on in San Francisco every weekend are OK? The perpetrators shouldn't go to jail because it won't rehabilitate them? Interesting.

^Actually the conversation was relatively educated until you stepped in. We said nothing about any of the bigot based idocrac
We just lock them up and forget about them for the duration of their sentence; allowing them to roam prison somewhat freely, and join up with gangs. However, no real attempt at rehabilitation ever occurs. Then we wonder why 70% of first time felons serving their first prison sentence return for a second after release. Most people who go to prison come out worse than they were when they went in. Its a complete sham, and a waste of taxpayer money.

Everyone treated the same, free housing, free food, universal medical care and only law enforcement has guns, hell prison is a progressive utopia, I'm surprised anyone would want to leave. It would be a perfect place for some of the posters around here.

^You closed the gap of wonder on many of you that linger in these forums........

Your hate of Government is because you are a Criminal. I should have noticed it before. You do know that if you don't like certain or specific laws you can use education and law practice to overturn those laws....And not just break them and cry about Uncle Sam...

Criminals..
 

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Hard core criminals don't want to be rehabilitated. They would rather steal or murder for what they can get. .

Waste of time and our prisons are nothing more than daycare and babysitting facilities.

I've worked in a jail and I know exactly how the game is played.

Just make sure those criminals are afforded every right and to hell with those that have to deal with em on a daily basis.
 

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We just lock them up and forget about them for the duration of their sentence; allowing them to roam prison somewhat freely, and join up with gangs. However, no real attempt at rehabilitation ever occurs. Then we wonder why 70% of first time felons serving their first prison sentence return for a second after release. Most people who go to prison come out worse than they were when they went in. Its a complete sham, and a waste of taxpayer money.

Lot's of Right Wing profiteers benefit from the prison program. This is why you will and already might have heard some trolling or "negative responses without brainy input"

The funny thing is the Right Wing hates government $ until it's in their own pocket. Then they justify it. Yet they never understood it.

I made sure to get a Right Wing post, so it didn't look bias;
6 shocking revelations about how private prisons make money - Salon.com
Why don't you be honest for a change? Remember Hillary Clinton laughing when she got that rapist off? A bunch of liberals also profit from our fucked up prison industry
 

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Criminals can't be rehabilitated because they do not think that what they did was wrong in the first place. The only wrong was arresting them.

I saw this brewing decades ago. Criminals believe they have a right to commit whatever crime they committed and we have an entire culture that agrees with them.
 

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We just lock them up and forget about them for the duration of their sentence; allowing them to roam prison somewhat freely, and join up with gangs. However, no real attempt at rehabilitation ever occurs. Then we wonder why 70% of first time felons serving their first prison sentence return for a second after release. Most people who go to prison come out worse than they were when they went in. Its a complete sham, and a waste of taxpayer money.

You cannot rehabilitate a person that has never been habilitated in the first place.
 

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We just lock them up and forget about them for the duration of their sentence; allowing them to roam prison somewhat freely, and join up with gangs. However, no real attempt at rehabilitation ever occurs. Then we wonder why 70% of first time felons serving their first prison sentence return for a second after release. Most people who go to prison come out worse than they were when they went in. Its a complete sham, and a waste of taxpayer money.
The "corrections" experiment has failed.

Nobody in "penitentiaries" repents.

The life sentence is cruel and unusual, and reminiscent of dungeons.

If a perp cannot by cured through fines, corporal punishment, or public humiliation, the fucker ought to be hanged.

You cannot rehabilitate the Charlie Manson's of the world, but, you can identify them early and put them down.
 

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We just lock them up and forget about them for the duration of their sentence; allowing them to roam prison somewhat freely, and join up with gangs. However, no real attempt at rehabilitation ever occurs. Then we wonder why 70% of first time felons serving their first prison sentence return for a second after release. Most people who go to prison come out worse than they were when they went in. Its a complete sham, and a waste of taxpayer money.

Everyone treated the same, free housing, free food, universal medical care and only law enforcement has guns, hell prison is a progressive utopia, I'm surprised anyone would want to leave. It would be a perfect place for some of the posters around here.
Many don't want to leave, and go back ASAP.

Three hots and a cot, and all the sex you can handle.

That just does not bother a lot of people.
 

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Everyone treated the same, free housing, free food, universal medical care and only law enforcement has guns, hell prison is a progressive utopia, I'm surprised anyone would want to leave. It would be a perfect place for some of the posters around here.
An Obamanian paradise.
 

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Isolation with access to education is the only thing that works for prisoners.
So you guys are saying all those fag-bashings by black gang-bangers that go on in San Francisco every weekend are OK? The perpetrators shouldn't go to jail because it won't rehabilitate them? Interesting.

^Actually the conversation was relatively educated until you stepped in. We said nothing about any of the bigot based idocrac
We just lock them up and forget about them for the duration of their sentence; allowing them to roam prison somewhat freely, and join up with gangs. However, no real attempt at rehabilitation ever occurs. Then we wonder why 70% of first time felons serving their first prison sentence return for a second after release. Most people who go to prison come out worse than they were when they went in. Its a complete sham, and a waste of taxpayer money.

Everyone treated the same, free housing, free food, universal medical care and only law enforcement has guns, hell prison is a progressive utopia, I'm surprised anyone would want to leave. It would be a perfect place for some of the posters around here.

^You closed the gap of wonder on many of you that linger in these forums........

Your hate of Government is because you are a Criminal. I should have noticed it before. You do know that if you don't like certain or specific laws you can use education and law practice to overturn those laws....And not just break them and cry about Uncle Sam...

Criminals..

LMAO!!!!!!!

What's wrong did I hurt your feelers because prison is a perfect definition of a liberal utopia. Time to get over yourself and pull your head out of your ass.
 

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We just lock them up and forget about them for the duration of their sentence; allowing them to roam prison somewhat freely, and join up with gangs. However, no real attempt at rehabilitation ever occurs. Then we wonder why 70% of first time felons serving their first prison sentence return for a second after release. Most people who go to prison come out worse than they were when they went in. Its a complete sham, and a waste of taxpayer money.
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