- Feb 27, 2014
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Well, of course you are going to bring up a red herring. That, of course, is a sign of hate. What does homicide have to do with this conversation? We can get into that later if you can contain yourself (which I doubt...you already seem to be getting irrational and upset...proving that whites are not willing to have honest discussion about race.Sure. Blacks were treated poorly after the Civil War and through the 60's.Therein lies the problem. ALL Americans need to abandon everything that sets them apart and become unhyphenated Americans. If you insist on airing 150 year old grievances and insisting on being treated special, you will be treated specially. Some will buy into the oppression bullshit and some will resent what they see as unfair treatment.
I agree...hyphenations need to be eliminated and there needs to be an understanding among races. For example...you say 150 year old grievances...I say some of those 'grievances' are not nearly that old. I would start out just by pointing at the Jim Crow era and go on to say that some of those grievances are legitimate today. If you can't get beyond that point...there can never be communication or the beginning of an understanding - because you think racism ended with slavery and I believe it did not.
Your rivals are liberals....that is fine...they shouldn't be rivals though - they are fellow Americans with different ideals and despite what you may think, they love this country too! But if you see liberals and everyone who doesn't think like you as rivals - then you will never be able to communicate with blacks who are - as you put it - your rivals!I see people as people. Of course, I notice skin color, but I view my dark skinned brothers as Americans, not rivals. My rivals are Liberals, racists and the spineless pseudo Conservatives that claim to be "main stream Republicans" but are in reality closet progressives that want everyone to think they're as smart as they like to think they are.
Basically what you just said in your communication is that racism ended with slavery, quit crying about it. Think like me or you are my rival...and to top if off, if you are black - then you must be looking for special treatment.
Therein lies the problem...you are incapable of appreciating opposing opinion. You don't have to agree, but you have to, at the very least, show a little respect and listen and TRY to understand the opposing view before you say something like racism ended 150 years ago.
Since, blacks have been using slavery and Jim Crow as an excuse.
Look at me! I'm black! My ancestors were brought here on slave ships and bred to pick cotton. Sorry about that. You're no longer slaves. We've amended the Constitution and passed countless laws granting blacks equal status, yet they tend to be poorer, less educated, more apt to commit crimes and more apt to grow up without a father. They die from homicide and commit homicide at 6 times the rate of whites yet, somehow, it's the white man's fault.
Simple question...You just agreed that Jim Crow laws existed and blacks were treated poorly throughout the 60's. Being treated throughout the 60's...that is my father. Post civil war - my grandfather. Do you think my father and grandfather had the same opportunity as yours? (Be honest!)
I will try to reel you back into rational discussion, but I think I am going to lose you. I am conservative...but many blacks vote democrat because of people like you. You can't have an honest discussion about race or race and politics when you immediately go to the plantation talking points. Do you think blacks would be comfortable associating with people who spew racist nonsense like you in the GOP? When you spew drivel, why would a black listen. Would you feel comfortable at a Black Panther meeting?Bullshit! If you want blacks to remain as they are, continue to vote for your Democrat plantation masters. They STILL own you. They feed you, make sure you have a place to stay. You're not picking cotton any more. All you need do for their benevolence is vote for them.
Many, many blacks do stay in school, earn a trade and work their asses off. Again, you are a victim of racist teaper propaganda! And again, why would a black want to be GOP when you spew nonsense like that! You should be preaching this nonsense to ALL people...because, guess what...there are many trailer parks in this nation full of white trash that dropped out of school and never learned a trade. Not all blacks are poor...not all blacks fit your racist view of blacks.Grow a set! Take responsibility for your life. Stay in school. Get a degreeL or learn a trade and work your ass off.
You don't get it...There are many, many blacks who are middle class or above and they STILL vote GOP AND - most blacks who are poor DON'T VOTE! Your message is wrong. It is racist, pushes away blacks, and repeats the circle of hate. Your assertion that only blacks are on welfare and commit crime is absolute nonsense. Your assertion that blacks want welfare is BS and your preaching is arrogant and offensive.We WANT you to earn equal wages. Welfare and crime raise our taxes. Poor people don't buy our products. We WANT you earning money and paying some of the tax burden. Once you wake the fuck up and realize that only you can improve your lot in life, I'm pretty damned confident that you will be voting GOP.
Let me just add, you may or may not be racist...but your message certainly is as it lumps all blacks into your stereotype and is full of red herring arguments. Change your message...spewing the nonsense you spew now only pushes blacks and minorities away. The only way you can change your message is to have an HONEST dialogue. The only way to have an HONEST dialogue is lose the rhetoric.